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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
November 29 2013 15:27 GMT
#4381
i have a cheap headset, hoping to invest in the near future in something more suited for my needs. I use them a lot to create. make it happen pebble
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
November 29 2013 15:31 GMT
#4382
On November 30 2013 00:09 Miaaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.


That's an interesting take on the 650's. I think they're currently the number 1 ranked headphone on head-fi at the moment. But it is for this reason I opted to go for the Beyerdynamic T90 and make that stretch for a more open, wider sound stage. I think the type of music you listen to will greatly alter the type of headphones you end up investing in.


Really? I haven't read head-fi in a long time.
I think most people would agree with my views on the HD650 regarding their signature - recessed highs, not particularly deep extension on the bass, overall dark presentation and respectable but unremarkable soundstage.

They're not my favorite headphones by any stretch and I won't be using them to do any sort of "critical listening" but it's likely they'll be getting the most listening time among my collection - largely because the comfort level and sound are good enough for "passive listening" and they're the least fatiguing pair of headphones I own. So actually I'm very pleased with this purchase.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
November 29 2013 15:37 GMT
#4383
On November 30 2013 00:23 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.

They are an analytical powerhouse by a vast majority accounts, nearly unmatched at their pricepoint. I think you might be biased from the beats headphones that you've clearly been using for way too long. I question your competence.


lol? You're mad because I don't think your favorite headphones are very good?

I know you're trolling but I'll bite just for the benefit of other readers. I don't think anybody would categorize the HD650 as analytical. They're not "unmatched" at their price point. Certainly not in the clarity department. The AKG K70x series offer greater clarity at the same price point. If you're looking for a similar signature, HE-400 is very competitive at the exact same price. (They're on sale right now for $300 on Black Friday!) I think the lows are fine on HD650s - lacking in extension but plenty of body. My Denon D7000s, however, absolutely destroys them on the lows.

And no I have never listened to beats. (lol)
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 16:14:01
November 29 2013 16:01 GMT
#4384
On November 30 2013 00:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:23 Djzapz wrote:
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.

They are an analytical powerhouse by a vast majority accounts, nearly unmatched at their pricepoint. I think you might be biased from the beats headphones that you've clearly been using for way too long. I question your competence.


lol? You're mad because I don't think your favorite headphones are very good?

I know you're trolling but I'll bite just for the benefit of other readers. I don't think anybody would categorize the HD650 as analytical. They're not "unmatched" at their price point. Certainly not in the clarity department. The AKG K70x series offer greater clarity at the same price point. If you're looking for a similar signature, HE-400 is very competitive at the exact same price. (They're on sale right now for $300 on Black Friday!) I think the lows are fine on HD650s - lacking in extension but plenty of body. My Denon D7000s, however, absolutely destroys them on the lows.

And no I have never listened to beats. (lol)

Well I'm not trolling, nor mad, sorry if I insulted you. Given how lowly you think of the HD650's which are nearly universally appreciated, I have to assume that you don't know what you're talking about and you've probably gotten used to a different sound which you assume to be the "default". I don't understand how you can say "the highs are nothing to boast about" when they're actually very clear and controlled and not too bright. For the price, the highs are pretty fucking awesome, and so are the mids.

I find the HD650's to be well rounded at the pricepoint, and yes the HE-400 is very competitive and better in some areas than the HD650's, but I found you to be overly critical and you used very harsh language to describe headphones which are actually pretty damn good.

As for the D7000's, aren't those significantly more expensive and have a reputation of having amazing lows? Naturally, the HD650's isn't going to beat them there. It's not meant to. The HD650's are not necessarily stellar and they're not the headphone's strength. They're still solid but yeah I'm sure the D7000 wins out there.

So I think people should listen to the majority opinion rather than yours.


Note: There are LCD2's on sale for $850... ffs. Must not buy...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
November 29 2013 16:17 GMT
#4385
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:23 Djzapz wrote:
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.

They are an analytical powerhouse by a vast majority accounts, nearly unmatched at their pricepoint. I think you might be biased from the beats headphones that you've clearly been using for way too long. I question your competence.


lol? You're mad because I don't think your favorite headphones are very good?

I know you're trolling but I'll bite just for the benefit of other readers. I don't think anybody would categorize the HD650 as analytical. They're not "unmatched" at their price point. Certainly not in the clarity department. The AKG K70x series offer greater clarity at the same price point. If you're looking for a similar signature, HE-400 is very competitive at the exact same price. (They're on sale right now for $300 on Black Friday!) I think the lows are fine on HD650s - lacking in extension but plenty of body. My Denon D7000s, however, absolutely destroys them on the lows.

And no I have never listened to beats. (lol)

Well I'm not trolling, nor mad, sorry if I insulted you. Given how lowly you think of the HD650's which are nearly universally appreciated, I have to assume that you don't know what you're talking about and you've probably gotten used to a different sound which you assume to be the "default". I don't understand how you can say "the highs are nothing to boast about" when they're clearly very clear and controlled and not too bright.

I find the HD650's to be well rounded at the pricepoint, and yes the HE-400 is very competitive and better in some areas than the HD650's, but I found you to be overly critical and you used very harsh language to describe headphones which are actually pretty damn good.

As for the D7000's, aren't those significantly more expensive and have a reputation of having amazing lows? Naturally, the HD650's, a more well rounded pair of headphones, isn't going to beat them there. It's not meant to.

So I think people should listen to the majority opinion rather than yours.


lol, actually I _really_ like the fact that I bought the HD650. As for the language I used, I'm trying to give an accurate impression from my listening and give some context to how I'm comparing them. And I don't think I was being unfair. The way I described the sound is exactly how my ears perceived it.

Like I said before, the best thing to me about the HD650 is that they're so easy to listen to. I don't own good speakers so I'm on my headphones all the time and only now did I realize how important a laid back signature is to me.

It reminds me of a story I heard about Coca-cola vs Pepsi back in the day. Coca-cola was worried that they're losing ground to Pepsi because consumers largely prefer Pepsi in blind tastings. This is what led to the new coke debacle. It turned out that while many people preferred a single sip of Pepsi to Coke due to Pepsi being sweeter, Coke is quite a bit more drinkable. I guess what I'm trying to say is that HE400 is like Pepsi and HD650 is like Coke.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
November 29 2013 16:20 GMT
#4386
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
Note: There are LCD2's on sale for $850... ffs. Must not buy...


!! where?!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 16:22:41
November 29 2013 16:21 GMT
#4387
On November 30 2013 01:17 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:23 Djzapz wrote:
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.

They are an analytical powerhouse by a vast majority accounts, nearly unmatched at their pricepoint. I think you might be biased from the beats headphones that you've clearly been using for way too long. I question your competence.


lol? You're mad because I don't think your favorite headphones are very good?

I know you're trolling but I'll bite just for the benefit of other readers. I don't think anybody would categorize the HD650 as analytical. They're not "unmatched" at their price point. Certainly not in the clarity department. The AKG K70x series offer greater clarity at the same price point. If you're looking for a similar signature, HE-400 is very competitive at the exact same price. (They're on sale right now for $300 on Black Friday!) I think the lows are fine on HD650s - lacking in extension but plenty of body. My Denon D7000s, however, absolutely destroys them on the lows.

And no I have never listened to beats. (lol)

Well I'm not trolling, nor mad, sorry if I insulted you. Given how lowly you think of the HD650's which are nearly universally appreciated, I have to assume that you don't know what you're talking about and you've probably gotten used to a different sound which you assume to be the "default". I don't understand how you can say "the highs are nothing to boast about" when they're clearly very clear and controlled and not too bright.

I find the HD650's to be well rounded at the pricepoint, and yes the HE-400 is very competitive and better in some areas than the HD650's, but I found you to be overly critical and you used very harsh language to describe headphones which are actually pretty damn good.

As for the D7000's, aren't those significantly more expensive and have a reputation of having amazing lows? Naturally, the HD650's, a more well rounded pair of headphones, isn't going to beat them there. It's not meant to.

So I think people should listen to the majority opinion rather than yours.


lol, actually I _really_ like the fact that I bought the HD650. As for the language I used, I'm trying to give an accurate impression from my listening and give some context to how I'm comparing them. And I don't think I was being unfair. The way I described the sound is exactly how my ears perceived it.

Like I said before, the best thing to me about the HD650 is that they're so easy to listen to. I don't own good speakers so I'm on my headphones all the time and only now did I realize how important a laid back signature is to me.

It reminds me of a story I heard about Coca-cola vs Pepsi back in the day. Coca-cola was worried that they're losing ground to Pepsi because consumers largely prefer Pepsi in blind tastings. This is what led to the new coke debacle. It turned out that while many people preferred a single sip of Pepsi to Coke due to Pepsi being sweeter, Coke is quite a bit more drinkable. I guess what I'm trying to say is that HE400 is like Pepsi and HD650 is like Coke.

Well, sorry if I was unfair to you. I still don't really get what you meant about the highs to be honest. "Easy to listen to" is not really much of a compliment to my sense because I really haven't had trouble listening to any headphones for extended periods of time, so your little review seemed overwhelmingly negative and critical to me.

On November 30 2013 01:20 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
Note: There are LCD2's on sale for $850... ffs. Must not buy...


!! where?!

in Canada only
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"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
November 29 2013 16:28 GMT
#4388
On November 30 2013 01:21 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 01:17 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:23 Djzapz wrote:
On November 29 2013 23:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 27 2013 04:48 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 27 2013 03:15 Djzapz wrote:
On November 27 2013 02:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I know, and I wanted to buy them for home use. But the thing is I also need a dedicated amp. And a good pair (even used) with a decent amp can take me to about 350eur, around here. And the momentum were only like 135eur.

I decided that if I'm going for the HD, I'm not gonna skimp on getting a really worn out pair or something like that, so I think I'll keep them for now and get the 650s later on when I can afford a good amp. I ordered the FiiO E07K DAC to use with the Momentum, and I can use it with a dedicated AMP when I'll get the HDs too (such as the E09K or something).

E07K + E09K with the HD650's should give you some pretty damn stellar sound. Hopefully you can get used to the momentums though, they're certainly not cheap and look pretty awesome. I'm personally really interested in the circumaural momentums but I can't justify owning a nice dac/amp setup, HD650's, RE-400 earbuds AND $350+ momentums...


Haha.

Well, the thing with the circumaural Momentum was that the ear hole is even smaller than the one on the Creative Aurvana Live, which already do not cover my entire ear. The Aurvana are also a bit softer, so they squish easier, so I was really worried that the Momentum Over-Ear would not be ideal for me. Even though the sound is a bit better-rounded.

Also, innerfidelity.com says that NAD VISO HP50 is slightly better in sound signature than the Momentum Over-Ear, at a lower price (just under $300). Perhaps those will be easier justifiable!

And yes, I will probably keep them as all-rounders, since they're pretty noise-isolating on the street as well (close to IEMs actually), but I'm still looking for the 650s as soon as the budget allows it.

@neobowman - Perhaps you will get the Sennheisers on sale soon, during Black Friday (29th)?


Just to throw in my 2 cents on the HD 650s which I got recently in a sale leading up to Black Friday - overall, they're OK.

The negatives: they're slow (not as slow as what some of the reviews claim) and they're quite dark. The highs are nothing to boast about. Soundstage was honestly not too impressive for open headphones. (It's not my amp which is more than capable of powering them and my K701s badly trounces them in this department.) Also they're also not as comfortable as I thought they'd be.

The positives: they're not fatiguing at all. I can listen to them for hours on end. Also, personally, I don't really mind the color.

For the price, I think they're not too bad, just don't expect an analytical powerhouse.

They are an analytical powerhouse by a vast majority accounts, nearly unmatched at their pricepoint. I think you might be biased from the beats headphones that you've clearly been using for way too long. I question your competence.


lol? You're mad because I don't think your favorite headphones are very good?

I know you're trolling but I'll bite just for the benefit of other readers. I don't think anybody would categorize the HD650 as analytical. They're not "unmatched" at their price point. Certainly not in the clarity department. The AKG K70x series offer greater clarity at the same price point. If you're looking for a similar signature, HE-400 is very competitive at the exact same price. (They're on sale right now for $300 on Black Friday!) I think the lows are fine on HD650s - lacking in extension but plenty of body. My Denon D7000s, however, absolutely destroys them on the lows.

And no I have never listened to beats. (lol)

Well I'm not trolling, nor mad, sorry if I insulted you. Given how lowly you think of the HD650's which are nearly universally appreciated, I have to assume that you don't know what you're talking about and you've probably gotten used to a different sound which you assume to be the "default". I don't understand how you can say "the highs are nothing to boast about" when they're clearly very clear and controlled and not too bright.

I find the HD650's to be well rounded at the pricepoint, and yes the HE-400 is very competitive and better in some areas than the HD650's, but I found you to be overly critical and you used very harsh language to describe headphones which are actually pretty damn good.

As for the D7000's, aren't those significantly more expensive and have a reputation of having amazing lows? Naturally, the HD650's, a more well rounded pair of headphones, isn't going to beat them there. It's not meant to.

So I think people should listen to the majority opinion rather than yours.


lol, actually I _really_ like the fact that I bought the HD650. As for the language I used, I'm trying to give an accurate impression from my listening and give some context to how I'm comparing them. And I don't think I was being unfair. The way I described the sound is exactly how my ears perceived it.

Like I said before, the best thing to me about the HD650 is that they're so easy to listen to. I don't own good speakers so I'm on my headphones all the time and only now did I realize how important a laid back signature is to me.

It reminds me of a story I heard about Coca-cola vs Pepsi back in the day. Coca-cola was worried that they're losing ground to Pepsi because consumers largely prefer Pepsi in blind tastings. This is what led to the new coke debacle. It turned out that while many people preferred a single sip of Pepsi to Coke due to Pepsi being sweeter, Coke is quite a bit more drinkable. I guess what I'm trying to say is that HE400 is like Pepsi and HD650 is like Coke.

Well, sorry if I was unfair to you. I still don't really get what you meant about the highs to be honest. "Easy to listen to" is not really much of a compliment to my sense because I really haven't had trouble listening to any headphones for extended periods of time, so your little review seemed overwhelmingly negative and critical to me.

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On November 30 2013 01:20 c0ldfusion wrote:
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
Note: There are LCD2's on sale for $850... ffs. Must not buy...


!! where?!

in Canada only
www.headphonebar.com


Dang it, probably better that way though.. hahahaha.

As for the highs on HD650, yeah dude, they're not "sparkly" or have as much "clarity" as say the K70x series. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 21:00:18
November 29 2013 19:29 GMT
#4389
Can anyone recommend a fairly cheap USB one that is durable with decent sound? I like the kind that goes over the ears too, not buds.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 30 2013 04:19 GMT
#4390
So I'm pretty familiar with most of the headphone stuff that I've needed to know so far but due to my current circumstances, I'm shopping for headphones with active noise cancelling. Right now, I would be working on my master's thesis, but loud assholes are preventing me from being productive on a Friday night (how dare they ).

Anyway, this is a recurring problem and I'm interested in buying something so that I won't get distracted. That said, I've heard some dreadful noise cancelling before, and the only decent noise cancelling I've tried was on QuietComfort 15's from Bose. Are there any other options out there, preferably cheaper and not from Bose?

The headphones don't necessarily need to have great sound otherwise. I just want to keep the sound out without to much white noise or too much of a hiss.
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
November 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#4391
On November 30 2013 13:19 Djzapz wrote:
So I'm pretty familiar with most of the headphone stuff that I've needed to know so far but due to my current circumstances, I'm shopping for headphones with active noise cancelling. Right now, I would be working on my master's thesis, but loud assholes are preventing me from being productive on a Friday night (how dare they ).

Anyway, this is a recurring problem and I'm interested in buying something so that I won't get distracted. That said, I've heard some dreadful noise cancelling before, and the only decent noise cancelling I've tried was on QuietComfort 15's from Bose. Are there any other options out there, preferably cheaper and not from Bose?

The headphones don't necessarily need to have great sound otherwise. I just want to keep the sound out without to much white noise or too much of a hiss.

IEMs aren't an option?
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traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
November 30 2013 12:41 GMT
#4392
Anyone has experience with both the ATH AD700X and A700X? Somewhat tempted to pick up a new pair of headphones and have heard good things about both but what would be suited more for gaming, movies and casual music appreciation? I'm using an onboard soundcard if that matters.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
November 30 2013 15:12 GMT
#4393
wow so ATH M50's are down to $104. That's pretty awesome, I think I'm gonna have to jump on a pair of these.amazon link
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 30 2013 15:19 GMT
#4394
On November 30 2013 21:29 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 13:19 Djzapz wrote:
So I'm pretty familiar with most of the headphone stuff that I've needed to know so far but due to my current circumstances, I'm shopping for headphones with active noise cancelling. Right now, I would be working on my master's thesis, but loud assholes are preventing me from being productive on a Friday night (how dare they ).

Anyway, this is a recurring problem and I'm interested in buying something so that I won't get distracted. That said, I've heard some dreadful noise cancelling before, and the only decent noise cancelling I've tried was on QuietComfort 15's from Bose. Are there any other options out there, preferably cheaper and not from Bose?

The headphones don't necessarily need to have great sound otherwise. I just want to keep the sound out without to much white noise or too much of a hiss.

IEMs aren't an option?

They might be an option if they're effective yes.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
November 30 2013 16:00 GMT
#4395
UE900 sale please. Black Friday has been disappointing. Usually, Amazon always had a killer high end IEM deal.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 30 2013 16:13 GMT
#4396
On November 30 2013 01:20 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 01:01 Djzapz wrote:
Note: There are LCD2's on sale for $850... ffs. Must not buy...


!! where?!


Actually, no, they're on sale pretty much everywhere else too. France, Germany, heck even Romania has them for about the same (if you account for VAT + being in Europe lol).

It only applies to the Bamboo version though, see here - http://www.audeze.com/products/headphones/lcd-2

Now, back to planet earth and cans I can actually afford, I found the HD600s on sale on Amazon.fr. They were 260eur and I snatched them. If anything, these have more "piercing" highs from what I've seen in the reviews (everyone says that the highs on HD650 roll off faster, and thus the sound is a bit warmer).

\o/
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 30 2013 16:36 GMT
#4397
Everybody got cool stuff except me this Black Friday
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
SCRedditor
Profile Joined October 2012
United States57 Posts
November 30 2013 18:29 GMT
#4398
On November 13 2010 09:04 Fyodor wrote:
Poll: What's your enthusiast level?

I own some mid-level level music headphones from Grado, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, etc. (2141)
 
44%

I have a "gaming" headset. (1749)
 
36%

I own a dedicated headphe amplifier and DAC. (344)
 
7%

I still use the earbuds that came with my ipod. (272)
 
6%

I bought some inexpensive headphones for my MP3 player once. (251)
 
5%

Headphones are a big hobby for me, I have a collection of them and love to try new gear. (114)
 
2%

I custom built every component of my headphone rig. (44)
 
1%

4915 total votes

Your vote: What's your enthusiast level?

(Vote): I still use the earbuds that came with my ipod.
(Vote): I have a "gaming" headset.
(Vote): I bought some inexpensive headphones for my MP3 player once.
(Vote): I own some mid-level level music headphones from Grado, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, etc.
(Vote): I own a dedicated headphe amplifier and DAC.
(Vote): Headphones are a big hobby for me, I have a collection of them and love to try new gear.
(Vote): I custom built every component of my headphone rig.




>implying that inexpensive headphones can't be mid-level or even god-tier
>not knowing shit about headphones and judging by price alone
>not knowing that $30 Superlux cans are better than most of "mid-level" sennheiser, audio technicas, etc
>not realizing that your poll "choices" are not mutually exclusive
>being this faggy in 2010 + 3

op is a fag

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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 30 2013 21:11 GMT
#4399
Seriously, what would make someone want to post like that? Does common sense not exist in some people anymore?
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 30 2013 21:19 GMT
#4400
On December 01 2013 06:11 Ben... wrote:
Seriously, what would make someone want to post like that? Does common sense not exist in some people anymore?

It's a Reddit + 4chan thing. Those are people with severe daddy issues who live for upvotes and "social acceptance" on the internet.
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