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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
November 03 2010 23:08 GMT
#121
Outside of the US everyone thinks the Democrats have the right idea and a lot of the Republicans/Tea Party are batshit crazy or even outright evil by other countries' standards. Meanwhile inside the US the Democrats have been painted as some kind of evil European Socialist party and ends up losing tons of seats to said Republicans. Then in this thread outsiders are claimed to be "US bashing" and "biased" or "misinformed".

So what's wrong with this picture?
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
November 03 2010 23:08 GMT
#122
On November 04 2010 08:00 misaTO wrote:
I say again . Mahoma was a Warrior. Islam is by definition an Expansive religion. Europe is gonna have more problems with Muslims, than the US with Central American Population.



The catholic europe in the end of the medieval times went raging to jerusalem so we are still trying to expand there and fight the islam ?

I am not even going to write more.


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CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 03 2010 23:09 GMT
#123
LOL, I realize the USA isn't necessarily alone on this, but if I lived in any district where someone who believes in intelligent design or even considers is a reasonable alternative to evolution would be a viable political candidate, I would be absolutely terrified. I mean, if you don't even have enough sense to sort that stuff out, how could you be expected to make decisions that might actually be difficult?
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:10:37
November 03 2010 23:09 GMT
#124
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.
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LOLtex
Profile Joined September 2010
United States148 Posts
November 03 2010 23:11 GMT
#125
On November 04 2010 08:05 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 07:48 Roggay wrote:
On November 04 2010 07:20 LOLtex wrote:
I also think that Europe, with each country being largely homogeneous in race and culture compared to the U.S., means that much of what works for you guys does not work for us. I think this is often overlooked. Here we have cities and giant metropolises (metropolii? lulz) that are more populated and larger than some of your countries. Not to mention we have millions of immigrants bleeding in from Mexico, usually illegally, who are not educated and some who have no interest in even learning the English language. These are unique problems of ours that can't really be fixed via what you call "normal" means, which is one reason the republican party exists: to promote state-solved problems, not federally solved problems.


We have far more immigrants in Switzerland (percentagewise. In fact Switzerland would have a decreasing population if no immigrants could come) and we still manage it fine (or without too much problems). In my primary school (when I was little) we were 20 kids and 16 nationalities were represented (I'm myself actually half Swiss half Italian, and it is very very common to hear all kinds of languages).

Well, the U.S. is much larger so it is surely far more difficult to manage.




As an ethnic Chinese who immigrated from the Philippines to the US, I'm going to tell you this. 20 kids representing 16 different Western European nationalities is a lot less diverse than 1 white American and 1 Japanese guy. The difference between a French and a German is like the difference between a Californian and a Texan.

When the US talks about immigrants, it is not immigrants from Canada or Western Europe that dominate the discussion. It is about immigrants that are sufficiently different culturally.


Hey, I came here to post this! Though you did it much better than I probably could.

Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
November 03 2010 23:12 GMT
#126
On November 04 2010 08:08 Tufas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 08:00 misaTO wrote:
I say again . Mahoma was a Warrior. Islam is by definition an Expansive religion. Europe is gonna have more problems with Muslims, than the US with Central American Population.



The catholic europe in the end of the medieval times went raging to jerusalem so we are still trying to expand there and fight the islam ?

I am not even going to write more.


All you deserve is a fine

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the difference is that that was about 500 years ago, this is 2010 and if you hadn't noticed reasoning like it's 1500a.d. will get the world nuked to shit in under 5 seconds
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 03 2010 23:13 GMT
#127
When you say "how does your country view US politics?" that's too broad a question really.
Most people in the UK couldn't give a shit about our own politics; let alone yours.

It is certainly a few steps crazier than politics in the UK with candidates able to stand on, quite frankly, ridiculous platforms and still stand a chance.
The amount of money wasted is pretty crazy too.
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:19:03
November 03 2010 23:14 GMT
#128
On November 04 2010 07:20 LOLtex wrote:
It looks like a good majority of Europeans get extremely biased information about US Politics. I definitely agree with you guys in that religion needs to get out of politics entirely, but I disagree that the republicans are the idiots that you claim they are.

I think the ridiculous amount of extremism on both sides here is ruining our country, neither party has any interest at all in working together and then blames the other for not wanting to work together. It's pathetic. I can't stand republicans nor democrats for this, and I can't take anyone seriously that votes straight-ticket.

I also think that Europe, with each country being largely homogeneous in race and culture compared to the U.S., means that much of what works for you guys does not work for us. I think this is often overlooked. Here we have cities and giant metropolises (metropolii? lulz) that are more populated and larger than some of your countries. Not to mention we have millions of immigrants bleeding in from Mexico, usually illegally, who are not educated and some who have no interest in even learning the English language. These are unique problems of ours that can't really be fixed via what you call "normal" means, which is one reason the republican party exists: to promote state-solved problems, not federally solved problems.

Anyway, back to your normal US bashing.


you got it so wrong here buddy...Europe is not homogeneous anymore have you ever seen a football match and what kind of players does each European country have? Have you ever been to Europe?
Well i can tell you from my experience that Europe is not as homogeneous as you think there are a lot of people from african countries that are living in europe, there is an increasing amount of muslims and there are a significant number of people from other parts of the world living in european countries. There are some parts of Germany that have more Turkish immigrants than german people, the birth rate of German people is getting lower and lower each year decreasing the number of People with German roots while the amount of people with Turkish roots is rising, So this poses a threat to German culture that is why they are afraid and so unreceptive of Immigrants. The US was made thanks to immigrants and there is no such thing as a pure blooded american that is a republican lie, I know because ive been there and in the public school i went people were super segregated the asians were all togeather, the latin south american were together and the african americans were togeather. Everybody had their roots somewhere but they all saluted the flag and i remember I didnt want to go back to argentina at the time i was 7 so it was hard on me but I do remember vividly those years.
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domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
November 03 2010 23:15 GMT
#129
On November 04 2010 08:09 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:
LOL, I realize the USA isn't necessarily alone on this, but if I lived in any district where someone who believes in intelligent design or even considers is a reasonable alternative to evolution would be a viable political candidate, I would be absolutely terrified. I mean, if you don't even have enough sense to sort that stuff out, how could you be expected to make decisions that might actually be difficult?

Believing in intelligent design, while silly, has no effect on policy unless you're running a school board (and even then, usually they just advocate teaching it with evolution, which while a waste of time, would only affect education by a tiny amount.)

On the other hand, there are many European politicians who still believe Marxism is a viable form of political economy. That has far more terrifying consequences.
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
November 03 2010 23:15 GMT
#130
I see US politics through the eyes of Jon Stewart who, in my eyes is one of the few independet media sources left. The major news networks have decided to follow political agendas and can, thereofre, not be considered a valid source for infromation/education (both sides, Gleenn Beck or Ed Schulz - both nutjobs).

Also, to quote Stepehn Colbert: Reality has a liberal bias! So mabye that is why most Europeans can identify more with democrats than republicans.
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Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
November 03 2010 23:16 GMT
#131
"Obama is a failure" is a line heard a lot, mostly because right-wingers yell it constantly, but in fact is far from truthful.

The fact is that by and large, Obama has been successful in every single metric, except for the one remaining challenge now being addressed - unemployment, something that has always lagged behind in an economic recovery.

So far, Obama has spearheaded the winding-down of Iraq, and returning focus towards returning order to Afghanistan. All of the maligned TARP bailouts? Guess what, they've been largely repayed, at a net profit for the American Taxpayer. The government takeover of General Motors? Almost done - and GM is back to making cars and a profit, and the goverment will soon divest their shares, and most likely, the US taxpayer will again make a profit. Consumer confidence has rebounded, and most large companies are having their best years in nearly a decade. Soon, hiring will pick back up.

And we've got Universal Healthcare coming into effect soon. The same debate raged 45 years ago when Medicare was unveiled - people labeled it as communist and evil. But now everyone loves it. History will judge it fairly.
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:19:43
November 03 2010 23:18 GMT
#132
On November 04 2010 08:15 Electric.Jesus wrote:
I see US politics through the eyes of Jon Stewart who, in my eyes is one of the few independet media sources left. The major news networks have decided to follow political agendas and can, thereofre, not be considered a valid source for infromation/education (both sides, Gleenn Beck or Ed Schulz - both nutjobs).

Also, to quote Stepehn Colbert: Reality has a liberal bias! So mabye that is why most Europeans can identify more with democrats than republicans.


Jon Stewart??? Really. Thats kind of scary. You know he's a political satirist right? Most Americans get all their news from him too. Hence the problem. A bunch of people thinking they know everything about politics because they watch The Daily Show. And if you think he's not biased...Well then.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
November 03 2010 23:19 GMT
#133
On November 04 2010 08:08 Krigwin wrote:
Outside of the US everyone thinks the Democrats have the right idea and a lot of the Republicans/Tea Party are batshit crazy or even outright evil by other countries' standards. Meanwhile inside the US the Democrats have been painted as some kind of evil European Socialist party and ends up losing tons of seats to said Republicans. Then in this thread outsiders are claimed to be "US bashing" and "biased" or "misinformed".

So what's wrong with this picture?

American corporations aren't pumping billions of dollars of brainwashing into your countries. (Well, they probably are, but not for U.S. elections.)

On November 04 2010 08:09 Scruffy wrote:
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.

Thank you, this is a perfect example.
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
November 03 2010 23:21 GMT
#134
Honestly, most people in UK thinks American politics are corrupt, over patriotic and overly aggressive. We hate republicans and think Obama is doing a really good job trying to steer the retarded system towards anything resembling progress.

Like noone in the UK can believe anyone would be so stupid as to oppose the health care reform or support the right to bear arms.
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crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
November 03 2010 23:22 GMT
#135
On November 04 2010 08:19 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 08:08 Krigwin wrote:
Outside of the US everyone thinks the Democrats have the right idea and a lot of the Republicans/Tea Party are batshit crazy or even outright evil by other countries' standards. Meanwhile inside the US the Democrats have been painted as some kind of evil European Socialist party and ends up losing tons of seats to said Republicans. Then in this thread outsiders are claimed to be "US bashing" and "biased" or "misinformed".

So what's wrong with this picture?

American corporations aren't pumping billions of dollars of brainwashing into your countries. (Well, they probably are, but not for U.S. elections.)

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 08:09 Scruffy wrote:
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.

Thank you, this is a perfect example.


I am so SORRY. I must have gotten my facts wrong. Reverend Wright is a respectable man, and far from a racist. When he preaches such gems as, "not God bless America, God d*** America", it just makes me all warm and tingly inside. Those feisty corporations, they had me all along.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
November 03 2010 23:23 GMT
#136
My opinion of US politics is that they think they have a far-left and a far-right in their country while the truth is they only have a far-right and some liberal very non-radical left wing. The result is what is considered centrist is way too right-wing for what's good for the political debate and climate in the country.
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
November 03 2010 23:23 GMT
#137
On November 04 2010 08:09 Scruffy wrote:
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.


Way to conform to the exact stereotype you said was unfairly labeled.

Non-USA people, this is a typical tea-partier. You can tell by the way he calls mainstream media 'liberal" and a 60% majority vote in the senate "cramming down the people's throats."

People like this only believe in democracy when it's convenient for them and the results conforms to their agenda. They wrap themselves in the flag and claim to love their country, and then plug their ears and start yelling when they lose in a democratic process.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
November 03 2010 23:24 GMT
#138
On November 04 2010 08:09 Scruffy wrote:
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.


Yah. This is what everyone thinks of when they think of a republican. These views are so hilariously outdated in Europe it's not even funny.
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domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:26:14
November 03 2010 23:25 GMT
#139
I don't quite understand why Europeans think the Republican party is "far-right." "Far-right" is fascism. Except for a few minor policies (abortion and gay marriage), which are increasingly becoming less relevant, nothing about the Republican platform is fascist.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 03 2010 23:26 GMT
#140
On November 04 2010 08:22 Scruffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 08:19 Severedevil wrote:
On November 04 2010 08:08 Krigwin wrote:
Outside of the US everyone thinks the Democrats have the right idea and a lot of the Republicans/Tea Party are batshit crazy or even outright evil by other countries' standards. Meanwhile inside the US the Democrats have been painted as some kind of evil European Socialist party and ends up losing tons of seats to said Republicans. Then in this thread outsiders are claimed to be "US bashing" and "biased" or "misinformed".

So what's wrong with this picture?

American corporations aren't pumping billions of dollars of brainwashing into your countries. (Well, they probably are, but not for U.S. elections.)

On November 04 2010 08:09 Scruffy wrote:
From what it sounds like, everyone (foreigners) believes what the mainstream American liberal media wants them to believe. Both funny and sad.

Also "Republicans are Uber rasist Christian and they will always be outraged when someone presents another view of an issue".

Kind of like Obama's preacher of 20 years, Reverend Wright. His Black Liberation Theology really does it for me. Liberals are a paragon of "bipartisanship", as evidenced by cramming healthcare down the American people's respective throats Edit: with no Republican input. Listening to Repubs and then throwing them out of the closed door meeting doesn't count, sorry.

Thank you, this is a perfect example.


I am so SORRY. I must have gotten my facts wrong. Reverend Wright is a respectable man, and far from a racist. When he preaches such gems as, "not God bless America, God d*** America", it just makes me all warm and tingly inside. Those feisty corporations, they had me all along.


Someone some guy listened to one time two decades ago doesn't make him unqualified for presidency. Heck, let's ignore all the facts of what Obama has done for this nation, let's look at his evil pastor from 20 years ago!
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