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On September 19 2010 18:10 slappy wrote:whats next, a thread about how korean commentators say things? + Show Spoiler +
tank-uuu
plaguuuu
etc etc etc
Most (all?) languages change pronunciations of borrowed words to conform to native phonemes. When Korean announcers say "play-gu" they are speaking Korean, and it is therefore correct. Even if Korean has a word for plague, one of the Korean words for the plague spell in BW is "play-gu."
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yeah, but iCcup (icey-cup) sounds like a slurpee or something. i vote for eye-ka-ka-up.
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On September 19 2010 17:56 deL wrote:
I think the thing with English is that these 'proper' pronunciations don't mean anything and the common alternatives are usually also 'right'.
This, It also takes no account into local dialects. Its like the eternal Bafth or Bahth (Bath) we get in England.
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On September 19 2010 18:04 Xenocide_Knight wrote:AdrenalPronounced: [ uh- dreen-l] Commonly mispronounced: From: StarCraft, StarCraft 2 I don't remember how he said it, but I watched a shoutcast some years ago where Manifesto7 (I think) had a really bizarre pronunciation for this.Was it uh-dren-al? like in the word adrenaline? who says adreenal?
No, it was something so off the wall that there was no rational explanation for it, and that I've been unable to retain a memory of its sound. I think he swapped the d and the r, mispronounced the vowels in all three syllables, and stressed the wrong syllable ... or something like that.
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aegis is pronounced ee-jis? Mind blown.
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On September 19 2010 18:23 bmml wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 17:56 deL wrote:
I think the thing with English is that these 'proper' pronunciations don't mean anything and the common alternatives are usually also 'right'. This, It also takes no account into local dialects. Its like the eternal Bafth or Bahth (Bath) we get in England.
The fact of the matter is that when most people study English, it's either the standard midwestern accent of American English or the received pronunciation of British English. It is meaningful and in most cases valid to claim that either (or both) of those accents is correct. My original post accounted for the two dominant accents and agrees with them both. Yeah, we're marginalizing all the Jamaican TLers. Sorry.
I'm not familiar with "Bafth" ... afaik there are two acceptable ways to say bath: the American way and the British way. Is there some controversy there I'm not aware of? What's with the f?
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On September 19 2010 18:03 Chex Mix wrote:No it's not. [sen- trif-y uh-g uhl] ≠ [sen-tri- fyoo-g uhl], as would be plain to any idiot but you, as they ... (wait for it) ... aren't the same. Show nested quote +But on the other hand, I don't know how you can be so uptight about this that you actually bothered to make a post trying to correct everyone and prove how wrong they are, and how right you are. Some people don't like sounding like idiots (you aren't one of them), and would correct themselves if they knew they were making a mistake. My post is for them.
No one is going to contribute if you're gonna be an asshole.
Also, some of your words are hardly "Words Gamers Mispronounce". More like "Words a Gamer Mispronounced". As in once, then never again.
Seriously man, chill out. You're going to have a depressing life if someone stressing the wrong syllable in a word fucks you off this much. There are better things to care about.
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I'm Australian, all these words sound different even when I'm pronouncing them the correct way.
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Where's the shit-n-ous plating in all of this?
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Bio (in the Terran context) is short for biological, not bionic or biotic. You know, biological, as opposed to mechanical (mech). Not a mispronunciation, but sort of on-topic.
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How about [Wreak]?
This one really annoys me because I hear it ALL THE TIME. People are like ZOMG he's going to WRECK(wreak) havoc in his base. Please add it to the OP if you have heard it like I'm sure so many others have.
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On September 19 2010 18:51 RisingTide wrote:
I'm Australian, all these words sound different even when I'm pronouncing them the correct way.
I mean, not really? Australian vowels are all shifted slightly, but the pronunciations given in the OP all basically hold for Australian English. Like, if your first syllable of zealot rhymes with bee instead of hell, you're saying it wrong, no matter how the Australian pronunciations of bee and hell vary slightly from British or American pronunciations.
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On September 19 2010 18:59 groms wrote:
How about [Wreak]?
This one really annoys me because I hear it ALL THE TIME. People are like ZOMG he's going to WRECK(wreak) havoc in his base. Please add it to the OP if you have heard it like I'm sure so many others have.
I concur. Tastosis make similar mistakes, which is quite annoying. Artosis (quite often) mixes up the players' names as well, which can be very confusing.
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Osaka27149 Posts
Adrenal
Pronounced: [uh-dreen-l]
Commonly mispronounced:
From: StarCraft, StarCraft 2
I don't remember how he said it, but I watched a shoutcast some years ago where Manifesto7 (I think) had a really bizarre pronunciation for this.
TOTALLY guilty. I always said "Andral". I wasn't even close and don't pretend to be. For the record, I like my made up word better.
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Osaka27149 Posts
Oh, and hey, how about you don't be a douchebag in this thread? That would be great too.
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On September 19 2010 19:08 Manifesto7 wrote:
Oh, and hey, how about you don't be a douchebag in this thread? That would be great too.
I've been quite nice to everyone that was nice to me. Do I have to respond to douchebaggery with douchebaggery? No, but on occasion I do.
And so do you, for that matter. Wouldn't it have been better to say, "Chex Mix, I noticed you had a decidedly negative tone in one of your posts. I would appreciate it if you made every attempt to remain civilized." Probably! But instead you called me a douchebag. (I won't hold it against you.)
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On September 19 2010 18:44 Chex Mix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 18:23 bmml wrote:On September 19 2010 17:56 deL wrote:
I think the thing with English is that these 'proper' pronunciations don't mean anything and the common alternatives are usually also 'right'. This, It also takes no account into local dialects. Its like the eternal Bafth or Bahth (Bath) we get in England. The fact of the matter is that when most people study English, it's either the standard midwestern accent of American English or the received pronunciation of British English. It is meaningful and in most cases valid to claim that either (or both) of those accents is correct. My original post accounted for the two dominant accents and agrees with them both. Yeah, we're marginalizing all the Jamaican TLers. Sorry. I'm not familiar with "Bafth" ... afaik there are two acceptable ways to say bath: the American way and the British way. Is there some controversy there I'm not aware of? What's with the f?
"two acceptable ways" - dude we don't live in the 19th century anymore. Local accents are just as correct as RP or GA even the MLA says that. That doesn't mean every pronunciation is correct but as long as it is consistent with his own accent it is not inferior to any other accent like GA or RP ). I mean really who speaks (near) RP? not even 2% of the british population and a lot of them only on official occassions.
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On September 19 2010 18:04 Xenocide_Knight wrote:AdrenalPronounced: [ uh- dreen-l] Commonly mispronounced: From: StarCraft, StarCraft 2 I don't remember how he said it, but I watched a shoutcast some years ago where Manifesto7 (I think) had a really bizarre pronunciation for this.Was it uh-dren-al? like in the word adrenaline? who says adreenal?
Everyone who has any biology at all pronounces it "adreenal" with reference to the adrenal gland.
Adrenaline is a short 'e', adrenal gland is a long 'e'. The adrenal glands are also known as the supra-renal glands.
also a long 'e'.
adrenal actually comes from "ad" "renal" renal means "kidney" and the adrenals sit atop the kidneys.
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with those loanwords (at least with the more scientific and uncommon ones) its always a matter of taste if you pronounce them like a english word or like greek/latin/whatever anyways (you should be consistent with it however).
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Osaka27149 Posts
"Hey Chex Mix, I read that someone questioned the validity of this thread. I for one think it is pretty interesting because I learned how to pronounce a new word, but this guy was a little bit blunt in his opinion.
However, since you are the one who made the thread, and thus is responsible for it, and because your mother always told you that two wrongs don't make a right, I would appreciate it if you kept your responses civil and level-headed. That way the thread won't get derailed and the tone of the thread won't dip from the 'interesting' category to the 'mildly hostile' category.
In my experience on this board that is usually the best possible reaction. It is also the most satisfying.
Let me know if you have any questions regarding this post, and keep up the good work!
Mani."
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