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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
December 13 2010 00:29 GMT
#1061
In about 50 years time there will be some college student bitching about they couldnt get the question "What kind of documents did the page Wikileaks leak in the year 2010" from
his INTERNET history class. This is very important for free speech and for the Internet what happens from now on is the the determination of the whole world to show and protect the truth.
in The Kong line forever
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
December 13 2010 01:40 GMT
#1062
On December 13 2010 09:12 Sabu113 wrote:
Throughout this thread you've had an anti-American bias in your posts. I would cite either your arguments about the Afghan war or your bullheadedness about Guantanamo detainees. It takes an ideologue to remove all the gray from those examples.

Now referring specifically to that post, you're implying that an evil American corporation is murdering Africans. The situation is much too murky to make that claim based off of one sole source.
Throughout this thread I also quoted articles showing how the "evil" chinese government hacked an innocent helpful US company to steal data from americans. I made a bunch of silly jokes about how bad the swedish judicial system is. I warned people not to jump into the conclusion that it was the US ddos wikileaks and later even posted a video explaining it was actually Russia and China and not the US who were guilty of attacking wikileaks. Many other people also posted abuses by other countries which were revealed by the cables (such as saudia arabia asking help to invade another country).

But of course, when the latest leak came from US embassies. Most of the emphasis will go to the US. Which doesn't mean wikileaks is anti-american. In another thread there was an article on how some russian officials think that wikileaks is actually an anti-russian plot made up by the CIA. Everyone wants to play the victim and be the center of attention.

Bottomline, no one is being anti-american. It's just you playing the victim.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
December 13 2010 02:00 GMT
#1063
On December 13 2010 09:29 HeadhunteR wrote:
In about 50 years time there will be some college student bitching about they couldnt get the question "What kind of documents did the page Wikileaks leak in the year 2010" from
his INTERNET history class. This is very important for free speech and for the Internet what happens from now on is the the determination of the whole world to show and protect the truth.


World Wide Web War I
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
December 13 2010 12:04 GMT
#1064
Is it just me or the entry "Sci/Tech => wikileaks" disapeard from google news this morning ? :/
google got censored ?
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
December 13 2010 12:10 GMT
#1065
On December 13 2010 21:04 zeross wrote:
Is it just me or the entry "Sci/Tech => wikileaks" disapeard from google news this morning ? :/
google got censored ?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say or why would wikileaks be in Science/Technology.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
December 13 2010 12:49 GMT
#1066
[image loading]

it was there until this morning. there was the wikileaks tag that bring all wikileaks related news.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 14:45:04
December 13 2010 14:38 GMT
#1067
On December 13 2010 21:49 zeross wrote:
it was there until this morning. there was the wikileaks tag that bring all wikileaks related news.
The Nexus S is not there anymore too, are they censoring their own phone? That list changes every minute with the most posted topics. Its an anomaly to even be on the Sci section in the first place. If you click on the US section right now, Wikileaks is there on the 3rd spot.

If you want wikileaks specific news there, just type wikileaks on the search box, then add it as a custom section for your account.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
December 13 2010 14:53 GMT
#1068
Moreover, if you'd like to search for documents containing words from wikileaks, you can use Google for that. Search "site:wikileaks.ch searchword". Much easier than reading through each and every document looking for conspiracies...
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
December 13 2010 15:24 GMT
#1069
On December 13 2010 23:38 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 21:49 zeross wrote:
it was there until this morning. there was the wikileaks tag that bring all wikileaks related news.
The Nexus S is not there anymore too, are they censoring their own phone? That list changes every minute with the most posted topics. Its an anomaly to even be on the Sci section in the first place. If you click on the US section right now, Wikileaks is there on the 3rd spot.

If you want wikileaks specific news there, just type wikileaks on the search box, then add it as a custom section for your account.


thanks didn't know about the custom section.
and since i live in france google was not showing me the US section, had to manualy add it too.
jgoonld
Profile Joined November 2010
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 23:36:04
December 15 2010 23:35 GMT
#1070
On December 05 2010 07:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs this week..


I just got a similar e-mail warning about wikileaks (see spoiler below). Are these being sent to all college students now?


+ Show Spoiler +
Dear SPEA Students,



SPEA has a long tradition of students pursuing careers in federal service. As such, it is important that students are made aware of the potential federal employment eligibility risks associated with the recently published WikiLeaks documents.



The US State Department and other federal agencies have issued news releases stating that anyone currently employed in federal service, or anyone who aspires to work in federal service, should not access or read WikiLeaks documents. The federal government considers most of the WikiLeaks information to be classified and individuals who read these documents or provide commentary on the WikiLeaks documents may be ineligible for employment in the federal government. This is especially true of students who plan to seek federal jobs in fields related to national security or the intelligence community. Students are also cautioned not to post links to WikiLeaks through social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc.).



More specific information is contained in the article links listed below.



Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/09/AR2010120901124.html



CNN Article:

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-08/justice/wikileaks.students_1_wikileaks-security-clearance-students?_s=PM:CRIME
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
December 16 2010 14:25 GMT
#1071
Haha, did you guys hear this one? The US Air Force just banned the New York Times and The Guardian for all employees.

- http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD6CI20101214

Quick! Censor the internets!
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
December 16 2010 14:40 GMT
#1072
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2010 08:35 jgoonld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs this week..


I just got a similar e-mail warning about wikileaks (see spoiler below). Are these being sent to all college students now?


+ Show Spoiler +
Dear SPEA Students,



SPEA has a long tradition of students pursuing careers in federal service. As such, it is important that students are made aware of the potential federal employment eligibility risks associated with the recently published WikiLeaks documents.



The US State Department and other federal agencies have issued news releases stating that anyone currently employed in federal service, or anyone who aspires to work in federal service, should not access or read WikiLeaks documents. The federal government considers most of the WikiLeaks information to be classified and individuals who read these documents or provide commentary on the WikiLeaks documents may be ineligible for employment in the federal government. This is especially true of students who plan to seek federal jobs in fields related to national security or the intelligence community. Students are also cautioned not to post links to WikiLeaks through social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc.).



More specific information is contained in the article links listed below.



Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/09/AR2010120901124.html



CNN Article:

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-08/justice/wikileaks.students_1_wikileaks-security-clearance-students?_s=PM:CRIME

I find it absurd that they would be able to keep track of who visited wikileaks. I don't think it's do-able and just trying to scare more people from visiting wikileaks.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 14:53:12
December 16 2010 14:49 GMT
#1073
On December 16 2010 23:25 VIB wrote:
Haha, did you guys hear this one? The US Air Force just banned the New York Times and The Guardian for all employees.

- http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD6CI20101214

Quick! Censor the internets!


So, this happens all the time in China? Oh...hold on a sec...anyone mind explaining to me what the difference between USA and China is again?

Can we make it official now that USA is not an democracy? They go as far as censoring media and threatening students to try to keep information from spreading, these are common things done by dictators.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 16 2010 14:52 GMT
#1074
On December 16 2010 23:40 IrT4nkz wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2010 08:35 jgoonld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs this week..


I just got a similar e-mail warning about wikileaks (see spoiler below). Are these being sent to all college students now?


+ Show Spoiler +
Dear SPEA Students,



SPEA has a long tradition of students pursuing careers in federal service. As such, it is important that students are made aware of the potential federal employment eligibility risks associated with the recently published WikiLeaks documents.



The US State Department and other federal agencies have issued news releases stating that anyone currently employed in federal service, or anyone who aspires to work in federal service, should not access or read WikiLeaks documents. The federal government considers most of the WikiLeaks information to be classified and individuals who read these documents or provide commentary on the WikiLeaks documents may be ineligible for employment in the federal government. This is especially true of students who plan to seek federal jobs in fields related to national security or the intelligence community. Students are also cautioned not to post links to WikiLeaks through social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc.).



More specific information is contained in the article links listed below.



Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/09/AR2010120901124.html



CNN Article:

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-08/justice/wikileaks.students_1_wikileaks-security-clearance-students?_s=PM:CRIME

I find it absurd that they would be able to keep track of who visited wikileaks. I don't think it's do-able and just trying to scare more people from visiting wikileaks.



They don't have to keep track of everyone, they can just check up whoever applies for such jobs.

You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 15:08:15
December 16 2010 15:06 GMT
#1075
This is ridiculous. The information is out, there is no point in continuing to call it classified except for the purposes of prosecuting the original leaker.

Especially since they are only limiting info for certain government employees (or potential future ones).. unlike China where they limit it for all citizens.. at least that has some real effect.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 15:16:15
December 16 2010 15:15 GMT
#1076
Let's also have in mind what this could (will?) lead to. Now that USA has started censoring the Internet and threatening citizens what says they will not do this in the future? I know that plenty of people and even TLers here want to defend the governments actions by saying "this was classified information, it shouldn't leak". But really? Let's not be ignorant and blinded and believe that just because it's "classified" it should be hidden and it's always ok to do so. Citizens in a democratic state DESERVES to know how many civilians and American that were killed in wars etc, in a democracy the people needs to know this in order to judge if they feel good or not about the war. It's oh so easy to just put a classified tag on things to keep them from ever reaching the people.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
December 16 2010 15:21 GMT
#1077
USA, turning into a facist state, one saftey warning at a time.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
December 16 2010 15:34 GMT
#1078
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/world/16wiki.html?emc=na
So, now the U.S is trying to build a case against Wikileaks for conspiracy.
This country just makes me more ashamed every day that passes.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 16 2010 15:37 GMT
#1079
On December 16 2010 23:49 NotSupporting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 23:25 VIB wrote:
Haha, did you guys hear this one? The US Air Force just banned the New York Times and The Guardian for all employees.

- http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD6CI20101214

Quick! Censor the internets!


So, this happens all the time in China? Oh...hold on a sec...anyone mind explaining to me what the difference between USA and China is again?

Can we make it official now that USA is not an democracy? They go as far as censoring media and threatening students to try to keep information from spreading, these are common things done by dictators.


In fairness to us...

We were a democracy. Once. The American Dream is dead now.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
December 16 2010 15:48 GMT
#1080
On December 17 2010 00:37 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 23:49 NotSupporting wrote:
On December 16 2010 23:25 VIB wrote:
Haha, did you guys hear this one? The US Air Force just banned the New York Times and The Guardian for all employees.

- http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD6CI20101214

Quick! Censor the internets!


So, this happens all the time in China? Oh...hold on a sec...anyone mind explaining to me what the difference between USA and China is again?

Can we make it official now that USA is not an democracy? They go as far as censoring media and threatening students to try to keep information from spreading, these are common things done by dictators.


In fairness to us...

We were a democracy. Once. The American Dream is dead now.


That makes me wanna cry. Europe is next. We are all screwed.
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
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