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Learning Korean: A Broad How To - Page 7
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
I don't know if anyone have the time to help out or something, that would be cool! | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:34 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: I'm currently trying to learn Korean. I already speak Japanese and Thai (and French, but that's because i'm from Montreal.)but that's because i lived in both countries for academical reasons. The problem is that in Montreal, there's not much Koreans, so it's rather hard for me to find people to practice with. I have never had a problem with learning new languages, but without having chances to have conversations,it's rather hard. yeah, having people around you that you're forced to speak the language with to communicate is really important to making it feasible. i've spent the last few years slowly trying to learn spanish, but without using it, you're basically preparing for a test. i can tell from the few times i've attempted speaking it with a fluent speaker that it's totally necessary to really retain what you're learning. i make really quick, focused bursts of progress in classes and then lose them immediately as soon as we move on to the next chapter or we take so much as 2 weeks off. plus - and i dunno what it's like for teachers of other languages, but with most of the spanish teachers i've had, there seems to be the attitude that native english speakers will only learn spanish through "understanding" its grammar. frankly i've found that to be super frustrating - obviously the grammar is necessary, but i think it might be a lot better to just make the effort, accept that your (whatever language) is going to be horrendous at first... have a sense of humor i guess? native speakers of the language you're trying to learn probably think it's really cute when you're first starting out. at least native spanish speakers seem to. i suppose it also depends on how easily you intuit the meaning behind how a language flows or whatever. like if you're the kind of person that picks up slang or accents very easily, then getting thrown into the deep end will probably seem more appealing to you. if you're the kid in class that always says something like "that makes no sense, this is how we say it in english", then life is going to be very difficult for you. edit: oh and i have rosetta stone - it's pretty good. i remember words and phrases better after using it than if i just read them out of a book. but it's not gonna make you fluent if you're not socializing with people in the language you're trying to learn. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
If you're a keeaboo who has more K-pop on his/her iPod than an actual Korean, and/or you love watching BW/SC:2 replays with Korean commentators, chances are at some point you've looked in the mirror and said "I wish I understood what these guys are saying". If you were walking down the street and some Korean girl smiled at you, chances are she wasn't Korean at all (ohyou.jpg). Stick to improving your English, seriously. Or try a language you'd actually use to further your present or future career. If you're going to work in Korea (no, not teaching English, try Samsung though), by all means start. If you're trying to pick up your real-life Yoona, you're better off trying to get rich because she's more expensive than you think. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
http://www.sdkrashen.com/Principles_and_Practice/index.html it's a very interesting read, though it is a bit difficult. it covers all the theories that people have been floating around in this thread and provides evidence for and against them. | ||
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inFeZa
Australia556 Posts
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
On June 30 2010 10:14 Snakenah wrote: --- Nuked --- why do ppl do this? i dont get it... | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
I think he's banned. This is quite off topic in some ways but reading the posts here, it won't be too far off. Coming from someone who self studied and passed an entrance test into Alliance Française putting me on par with other students who studied for 260 hours, and being able to be at ease while conversing in French with some friends in uni in normal non-baby talk- after 1 year, and if it's hard to find natives, I highly recommend listening to Michel Thomas' stuff. He gives you a really solid foundation on the structure of the language. It really lacks on vocab but having tried learning vocab first, I firmly think you should learn structure and then vocab - you can learn that by using Pimsleur (don't worry when you get irritated by the first few lessons, it will slowly start to make sense later on) or Assim (never tried this before) or find a language exchange partner online. However, there isn't a Korean one, and their Japanese one is at a very slow pace, and the "student participants" for Mandarin Chinese are terrible at pronouncing. I've only listened short parts of it and it irritates me as a native Malaysian Mandarin speaker but I trust that the fundamental idea of that method would be very very helpful to beginners. Of course I'm quite hardworking and I drive for about 1-2 hours everyday and I spend that time listening to languages that interest me. Furthermore, I didn't even finish listening to the entire Michel Thomas audiobook course when I sat for the entrance exam. Everyone I've spoken to are usually impressed, even the professor at Alliance Française. Having looked at and cringing my sister's beginner textbooks, I owe it entirely to the brilliant methods and effort. And I'm taking this chance to sneak in a request for language exchange :D looking for spanish, french, german, sweedish. Please pm me. I can teach Mandarin Chinese and ... Malay. | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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Eluadyl
Turkey364 Posts
I speak turkish (naturally) and japanese. While I can't speak korean I know these three languages share many common traits and their syntax is almost the same. Also while I'm quite fluent in japanese I can't read it. Learned the language with romaji and never bothered with kanji. It is totally possible to learn to speak a language without reading foreign alphapets. This should also be the case with korean. | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17911 Read #1 | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Sharedtalk.com and ConversationExchange.com | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
On March 25 2011 11:07 Xpace wrote: Just thought I'd throw this out there: If you're a keeaboo who has more K-pop on his/her iPod than an actual Korean, and/or you love watching BW/SC:2 replays with Korean commentators, chances are at some point you've looked in the mirror and said "I wish I understood what these guys are saying". If you were walking down the street and some Korean girl smiled at you, chances are she wasn't Korean at all (ohyou.jpg). Stick to improving your English, seriously. Or try a language you'd actually use to further your present or future career. If you're going to work in Korea (no, not teaching English, try Samsung though), by all means start. If you're trying to pick up your real-life Yoona, you're better off trying to get rich because she's more expensive than you think. lol this is a very cynical attitude. for those who had to learn english in school, I would bet korean would be a easier to study simply because there are a lot of rules as to how to pronounce or read a word, unlike english where you basically have to straight up memorize how to pronounce and spell the 30,000 words in the english dictionary since the english language is so undefined in terms of spelling and pronunciation. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:54 Eluadyl wrote: I don't know if I'm repeating a post, I didn't read the whole thread. I speak turkish (naturally) and japanese. While I can't speak korean I know these three languages share many common traits and their syntax is almost the same. Also while I'm quite fluent in japanese I can't read it. Learned the language with romaji and never bothered with kanji. It is totally possible to learn to speak a language without reading foreign alphapets. This should also be the case with korean. Thing is, the romanisation for Korean is really really messy and unorganised and not unified or standardised. | ||
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Stratoss
Czech Republic129 Posts
Solves all the things like motivation issues, lack of material and someone to explain the stuff in depth for you. Lots of lessons, casts, videos and a cute korean chick on the top. Also a good place to find language buddies. It started a few months back and it's getting larger and better every day. If you start now you can still keep up and then just follow as the new lessons appear. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
Here's the tea I'm searching for! ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Chill/Tea.png) | ||
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Gridline
United States41 Posts
I can read and write it, but my vocabulary is still ridiculously small. | ||
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Gridline
United States41 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:16 Chill wrote: Hi! Here's the tea I'm searching for! I believe the bag says "Dasol" "bom" in green and yellow, and "Swogwogcha" in white. Like i said my vocabulary is tiny, so I don't know what it means  | ||
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
The closest I found was this: http://www.buykoreantea.com/herbal-tea/hydrangea-tea-25g-can.html | ||
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:27 Chill wrote: It's daseolbom (company) and sugukcha (hydrangea tea) The closest I found was this: http://www.buykoreantea.com/herbal-tea/hydrangea-tea-25g-can.html (referring to your previous post)I doubt that it's going to be worth the shipping fees if you choose to order from Korea. Of course, considering that the link you posted is selling it for twice the cost in Korea, it might be cheaper to pay for the shipping if you're buying in bulk. I'm assuming that you don't have any Korean mules incoming? =[ | ||
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
 I don't even care about that specific brand to be honest, but no tea shops here seem to have heard of hydrangea tea. | ||
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