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My sisters 16th birthday was last wednesday. Thursday they went to New York and came home Sunday. They actually have their picture taken with the police officer who found the bomb 30 min before it all happened. He was riding a horse and they though it was neat. They also couldn't see a broadway play because of the incident.
What a small world
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On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I'm taking about Pakistan (however i have some connections with Afghanistan). I don't think that what the terrorists did was any way justifying, it was just stupid and wrong. And religion isn't sacred, your absolutely right, in fact i believe that they are some holes with religion. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that.
And so what?
Maybe if people kept to themselves and didn't let other people "offend" them by simply talking it wouldn't be a damn issue. You can only be offended by something when you take it personally. Religion is generally the group that takes the MOST offense to something when they are "attacked" as if their beliefs are somehow higher than anyone elses.
I've seen what some what say offensive things toward my race but I really don't care because you know...the people saying it mean NOTHING to me.
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On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that.
I think I would be more offended that so many people of my religion are little whiny juveniles that a network would have to make a special exception to censor jokes just for that religion so that people don't get their panties in a bunch.
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On May 04 2010 04:54 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I'm taking about Pakistan (however i have some connections with Afghanistan). I don't think that what the terrorists did was any way justifying, it was just stupid and wrong. And religion isn't sacred, your absolutely right, in fact i believe that they are some holes with religion. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that. And so what? Maybe if people kept to themselves and didn't let other people "offend" them by simply talking it wouldn't be a damn issue. You can only be offended by something when you take it personally. Religion is generally the group that takes the MOST offense to something when they are "attacked" as if their beliefs are somehow higher than anyone elses. I've seen what some what say offensive things toward my race but I really don't care because you know...the people saying it mean NOTHING to me.
Religious beliefs are not higher that anyway elses and i'm not trying to apply. All i'm saying is that the producers were wrong (again i mean morally) in what they said.
However, the difference between you and me is shown at the last sentence. I won't often take things personally, however religion to me is important and when someone offends it, i will take it personally unlike you. Its not bad or anything, its just that our views and personalities AND OPINIONS on certain things are different...."Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their facts"
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so the Taliban admit to it... scumbags...
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On May 04 2010 05:06 hp.Methos wrote:
so the Taliban admit to it... scumbags...
I don't think they did this...to amateurish, i mean these guys are a lot more pro than that and you don't leave a car running with a bomb inside...thats just stupid and drawing attention.
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On May 04 2010 05:00 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 04:54 Jayme wrote:On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I'm taking about Pakistan (however i have some connections with Afghanistan). I don't think that what the terrorists did was any way justifying, it was just stupid and wrong. And religion isn't sacred, your absolutely right, in fact i believe that they are some holes with religion. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that. And so what? Maybe if people kept to themselves and didn't let other people "offend" them by simply talking it wouldn't be a damn issue. You can only be offended by something when you take it personally. Religion is generally the group that takes the MOST offense to something when they are "attacked" as if their beliefs are somehow higher than anyone elses. I've seen what some what say offensive things toward my race but I really don't care because you know...the people saying it mean NOTHING to me. Religious beliefs are not higher that anyway elses and i'm not trying to apply. All i'm saying is that the producers were wrong (again i mean morally) in what they said. However, the difference between you and me is shown at the last sentence. I won't often take things personally, however religion to me is important and when someone offends it, i will take it personally unlike you. Its not bad or anything, its just that our views and personalities AND OPINIONS on certain things are different...."Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their facts"
Ok so religion is important to you, that doesn't inherently explain why you would take it personally.
I think religion is ridiculous. Nothing about it makes any sense to me. In contrast my father is a very religious person. I'll occasionally make a crack at how awful religion is when I see something on TV to prove my point and he'll respond by calling me a godless heathen. In the end I know not to take what he says personally and vice versa. You want to know why?
What he says has absolutely no affect on what I believe at all. The same goes for him. He will continue to believe what he will believe and I will continue to not believe in what he believes.
My dad and I get a long great.
So really, you shouldn't be offended when someone finds what you believe in ridiculous. The only reason you ever should is if you have doubts about what you believe in. If you don't I really fail to see the issue.
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My language arts teacher was in the blockaded off area. He still got to see his show anyway haha. Pretty big scare, though.
Am I the only one who gets his general news from TL?
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On May 04 2010 05:22 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 05:00 Housemd wrote:On May 04 2010 04:54 Jayme wrote:On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I'm taking about Pakistan (however i have some connections with Afghanistan). I don't think that what the terrorists did was any way justifying, it was just stupid and wrong. And religion isn't sacred, your absolutely right, in fact i believe that they are some holes with religion. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that. And so what? Maybe if people kept to themselves and didn't let other people "offend" them by simply talking it wouldn't be a damn issue. You can only be offended by something when you take it personally. Religion is generally the group that takes the MOST offense to something when they are "attacked" as if their beliefs are somehow higher than anyone elses. I've seen what some what say offensive things toward my race but I really don't care because you know...the people saying it mean NOTHING to me. Religious beliefs are not higher that anyway elses and i'm not trying to apply. All i'm saying is that the producers were wrong (again i mean morally) in what they said. However, the difference between you and me is shown at the last sentence. I won't often take things personally, however religion to me is important and when someone offends it, i will take it personally unlike you. Its not bad or anything, its just that our views and personalities AND OPINIONS on certain things are different...."Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their facts" Ok so religion is important to you, that doesn't inherently explain why you would take it personally. I think religion is ridiculous. Nothing about it makes any sense to me. In contrast my father is a very religious person. I'll occasionally make a crack at how awful religion is when I see something on TV to prove my point and he'll respond by calling me a godless heathen. In the end I know not to take what he says personally and vice versa. You want to know why? What he says has absolutely no affect on what I believe at all. The same goes for him. He will continue to believe what he will believe and I will continue to not believe in what he believes. My dad and I get a long great. So really, you shouldn't be offended when someone finds what you believe in ridiculous. The only reason you ever should is if you have doubts about what you believe in. If you don't I really fail to see the issue.
If something is important to you...(family, religion,. friends, etc) and someone offends it, of course your going to take it personally. I think that this conversation has run its course due to our different opinions and personalities.
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On May 04 2010 04:29 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 22:25 lowbright wrote:On May 03 2010 10:03 Housemd wrote:On May 03 2010 09:54 eSen1a wrote:
I love how gaming sites are so vocal on worldly issues, especially TL.net :D
As for connections with south park, I think they have every right to criticize any religion (including Islam). I am a christian but even i acknowledge how organized religion can be fucking stupid and someone has to point this out. They have had Jesus on that show frequently and Satan is a raging homosexual so i don't see why Muslims should feel more offended than Christians. That being said I know a few Muslims and they wouldn't care less... I guess the difference is radical Christians preach, radical Muslims blow shit up.
disclaimer:i have no credibility I think Muslims feel offended due to the fact that many cartoons are depicting their religion. South Park has every right to do what they did legally. But morally, many people would agree that this is just jumping the line, even though they have had other religions on it. Muslims (as I am one) are greatly affected by this because there is a war going on in their country, so morally this is just wrong. Legally, its a different story. Morally? It's a comedy show. Which country are you talking about? There is not just one "muslim country". I assume you were talking about either Afghanistan or Iraq, but it was apparently a Pakistani group so there goes that argument. And that doesn't give them any justification whatsoever for making terrorist threats and attempting to carry them out. Religion is not sacred, anything can be made fun of. In fact, the sheer absurdity of religion in general should open it up to more ridicule, not less. I'm taking about Pakistan (however i have some connections with Afghanistan). I don't think that what the terrorists did was any way justifying, it was just stupid and wrong. And religion isn't sacred, your absolutely right, in fact i believe that they are some holes with religion. I mean there are TONS of comedy shows, but none of them offend religion as bad as the South Park people did. I think that if you were a Muslim, you would feel some offense to that.
Did you even watch the episode? They trashed on every other religion, making them all look like buffoons. They even had Krishna iirc doing a line of coke while for Mohammed, the worst thing they did was threaten to show a representation of his face. How would a Muslim be more offended than a Christian, when Jesus is portrayed as a hapless moron, or Judaism where Moses is portrayed as a gigantic red top?
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Someone has been arrested.
EDIT:
According to NBC, the suspect's name is Shahzad Faisal, a 30-year-old U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. They report that the Connecticut native was arrested at JFK International Airport, apparently trying to flee the country.
CNN and the New York Times are also reporting that an arrest was made, either late Monday evening or early Tuesday morning, at JFK.
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Eric Holder is now speaking.
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That guy is probably wishing the Taliban did not claim responsibility. Does this make him a enemy combatant?
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So they are searching the guy's home?
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They most likely found out when they traced the vehicle, the "suspect" purchased the vehicle in Connecticut from a Craigslist dealer. The dealer said the guy had a "Hispanic or Middle Eastern appearance and was in his 20s or 30s.
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All the local NYC news stations are hyped up on this shit, every boardcast 80% is dedicated to some analysis by some so called "expert" and skepticism bullshit.
"If the bomb went off it would hit a killzone, like if you would fire a barrage of AK47s."
Uhh sure? (Its more or less exactly what the so called expert said.)
edit: Why the hell did accidentally quote myself again? -__-
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Nice that they caught him. He couldn't of thought he would get away from this.
I wonder if it will come out that he has Islamic background and that is why he did it or if he is just a crazy guy or someone who thinks differently about US politics (maybe had a family member die in a drone attack or wants the US out of the middle east etc).
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FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, Other Government Agencies, Billions of Dollars: 0
Street Vendor and Mounted Police Officer: 1
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hahahaha
actual substance: If they bombed the gyro guys on 53rd and 6th I would have fucking RAGED.
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gosh...I really don't think this should be news. from a newsworthiness standpoint or because terrorists shouldn't get air time over trivial shit like this
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