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On February 02 2010 22:06 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 21:17 Vernom wrote:
Say more recommended adds.
I'm using right now:
- FlashBlock - Versión: 0.9.23
- Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
- Google Mail Checker - Versión: 3
- Google Quick Scroll - Versión: 0.5.5
- IE Tab - Versión: 1.0.11208.1
- MegaUpload DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0
- RapidShare DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0 Firebug (great for developers but works for ordinary people with rudimentary knowledge if you want to see what exactly is on the site you're browsing and what it does). Ad-Block (obviously) NoScript (can be a bit annoying but is of great help if you 'accidentaly' visit some shady sites) DownloadHelper (for downloading videos from YouTube, something what Chrome will never implement seeing as YT is owned by Google)
added ad-block to the list and removed FlashBlock from there because that makes my broswer slower
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Opera's new JS engine? What kind if shit is that? I have always used Opera and I love it. Never heard of the JS engine before. What does it do?
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Every single FF add-on is being ported to Chrome with an even sleeker interface! Come on FF, you better release your updates faster!
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There is absolute no reason to switch to Chrome. Firefox has everything I need.
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This kind of competition is so amazingly good for the development of software; it improves both FF and crome, and we as consumers can just pick whatever we like better. It's so amazing. 
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Chrome is just lighter and faster in general, I don't really think FF can compete unless they do some serious overhaul to one-up webkit browsers. Updates seem to be more prominent as well, at least in the dev channel.
As for extensions, I'm primarily just using the google reader and gmail checker, and the mouse gestures. Their adblock extension seems to work fine, but it has some major lag issues for some reason.
Just about any userscript works like an extension on Chrome now on their latest version, so although Chrome still has some catching up to do to FF's user base, it's doing so rather quickly.
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On February 03 2010 01:14 Lyriu wrote:
Chrome is just lighter and faster in general, I don't really think FF can compete unless they do some serious overhaul to one-up webkit browsers. Updates seem to be more prominent as well, at least in the dev channel.
As for extensions, I'm primarily just using the google reader and gmail checker, and the mouse gestures. Their adblock extension seems to work fine, but it has some major lag issues for some reason.
Just about any userscript works like an extension on Chrome now on their latest version, so although Chrome still has some catching up to do to FF's user base, it's doing so rather quickly.
Incorrect. Chrome uses more memory because each tab is a seperate process, but it's faster. It's aim isn't to be memory efficient, it's aim is to be fast and responsive(and secure).
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Any word on a noscript like thing for chrome? Forgive my ignorance.
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I am using Opera as main browser for a long time, tried to migrate to FF several times, but in the end returned back to Opera. However, Chrome is looking very good and I might give it a try.
Anyway, I have all browsers installed on my home/office computer and laptop, as I need them for development/testing.
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Mystlord
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On February 02 2010 22:21 SaetZero wrote:I like Opera, only having FF installed for my online school... because it only supports FF and IE.  I have tried Chrome, it's alright. If they want to improve Chrome to make it standout more, good for them. But Opera man... I'll stay on that as long as I can. I'm too used to the mouse navigation shortcuts lol.
You and me both brother. Which is why, when I went back to Firefox, I got this little beauty:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6366
It's like I fell in love all over again.
On February 02 2010 23:10 Neivler wrote:
Opera's new JS engine? What kind if shit is that? I have always used Opera and I love it. Never heard of the JS engine before. What does it do?
http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/12/22/
Enjoy the ride to paradise my good friend. Carakan, Vega, Presto, they're all going to rock your socks.
Speed reference?
http://www.betanews.com/article/The-once-and-future-king-Test-build-of-Opera-crushes-Chrome-on-Windows-7/1261519843
Chart in question:
(Higher is better)
Even scarier:
But the Opera test build bested all of Chrome's scores...and it did so while performing relatively poorly in the rendering department. This is the truly scary part: Opera Software is developing a new browser chassis, which so far looks very attractive under Windows 7. It's leaner, but it's not too minimalistic, and it certainly pronounces its manufacturer boldly with a big red "O." The rendering engine under that chassis is not quite finished, rendering ordinary <TABLE> elements, for example, with only half the speed of stable Opera 10.1.
I already have chills imagining how fast this thing will be.
Anyway, besides my long Opera 10.5 rant, one more thing to add:
Everyone who's spouting something about Firefox using more memory than Chrome? You're all on crack. Firefox uses less:
http://lifehacker.com/5352195/browser-speed-tests-chrome-40-and-opera-10-take-on-all-challengers
Don't count Firefox out just yet...
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google is a nogo...
opera for browsing, FF for quakelive...
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I dont like Chrome. Apart from the long list of reasons posted by ShoCkeyy; it installs some weird "googleupdate" program that resides in the computer's memory ALL the time.
You can delete it, but they treat me like some sort of an idiot by running some spyware constantly. Yes, I consider this spyware, since AFAIK noone really knows what data is sent by this thing.
This policy of "treating me as an idiot" looks pretty similar to apple; the software does things which I do not want and lacks "professional" functions. Ok, with extensions we will be able to change Chrome, but this will require lots of work.
Personally I believe that getting rid of flash, or getting some new standard would make the websites work much faster. Youtube videos and games seem to be ok; but opening few websites with popups can kill any browser, including chrome, firefox and IE.
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On February 03 2010 01:40 Mystlord wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 22:21 SaetZero wrote:I like Opera, only having FF installed for my online school... because it only supports FF and IE. I have tried Chrome, it's alright. If they want to improve Chrome to make it standout more, good for them. But Opera man... I'll stay on that as long as I can. I'm too used to the mouse navigation shortcuts lol. You and me both brother. Which is why, when I went back to Firefox, I got this little beauty: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6366It's like I fell in love all over again. Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 23:10 Neivler wrote:
Opera's new JS engine? What kind if shit is that? I have always used Opera and I love it. Never heard of the JS engine before. What does it do? http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/12/22/Enjoy the ride to paradise my good friend. Carakan, Vega, Presto, they're all going to rock your socks. Speed reference? http://www.betanews.com/article/The-once-and-future-king-Test-build-of-Opera-crushes-Chrome-on-Windows-7/1261519843Chart in question: (Higher is better) Even scarier: Show nested quote +But the Opera test build bested all of Chrome's scores...and it did so while performing relatively poorly in the rendering department. This is the truly scary part: Opera Software is developing a new browser chassis, which so far looks very attractive under Windows 7. It's leaner, but it's not too minimalistic, and it certainly pronounces its manufacturer boldly with a big red "O." The rendering engine under that chassis is not quite finished, rendering ordinary <TABLE> elements, for example, with only half the speed of stable Opera 10.1. I already have chills imagining how fast this thing will be. Anyway, besides my long Opera 10.5 rant, one more thing to add: Everyone who's spouting something about Firefox using more memory than Chrome? You're all on crack. Firefox uses less: http://lifehacker.com/5352195/browser-speed-tests-chrome-40-and-opera-10-take-on-all-challengersDon't count Firefox out just yet...
interesting. i might put opera on my vbox of ubuntu and try it out :o
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On February 03 2010 01:33 Belgo wrote:
Any word on a noscript like thing for chrome? Forgive my ignorance.
I would also like to know this.
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On February 03 2010 01:48 rererebanned wrote:
I dont like Chrome. Apart from the long list of reasons posted by ShoCkeyy; it installs some weird "googleupdate" program that resides in the computer's memory ALL the time.
You can delete it, but they treat me like some sort of an idiot by running some spyware constantly. Yes, I consider this spyware, since AFAIK noone really knows what data is sent by this thing.
This policy of "treating me as an idiot" looks pretty similar to apple; the software does things which I do not want and lacks "professional" functions. Ok, with extensions we will be able to change Chrome, but this will require lots of work.
Personally I believe that getting rid of flash, or getting some new standard would make the websites work much faster. Youtube videos and games seem to be ok; but opening few websites with popups can kill any browser, including chrome, firefox and IE.
GoogleUpdate is auto-update tool for Chrome.
Chromium is the name we have given to the open source project and the browser source code that we released and maintain at www.chromium.org. One can compile this source code to get a fully working browser. Google takes this source code, and adds on the Google name and logo, an auto-updater system called GoogleUpdate, and RLZ (described later in this post), and calls this Google Chrome.
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I use IE and I'm not switching
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-sniff- i dont want firefox to gooo~
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To make this clear: I don't know if and how much private data chrome collects.
So this is just a very general statement, not necessarily directed towards chrome alone:
Options to send data should be OFF by default, not on. You should have the choice to enable such stuff during installation, but there, too, it should be OFF by default.
Just because you are able to turn something off it doesn't mean that it isn't bad. A lot of users will never change any nontrivial settings (people who have trouble with computers, careless people, stupid people, ...).
It's very sad that an increasing amount of popular software doesn't follow this rule at all.
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On February 02 2010 22:26 niteReloaded wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 15:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 02 2010 14:59 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On February 02 2010 14:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Chrome steals your info. I'm ok. ?? I love chrome. Switched over from FF and never looked back. http://www.versluis.com/2010/01/the-scary-truth-about-googles-chrome-propaganda/I wouldn't be that optimistic about the new browser by Google, the most powerful corporation ever. Before releasing own browser, Google was able to collect user browsing information only through Google Toolbar. If you read the G! Toolbar Terms & Conditions carefully, you'd find the lines where Google states that by installing the software a user agrees to share all browsing information with the software provider. Naturally, they couldn't force everyone to install their toolbar so the great G chose the different way. Google wants to know every little thing about you and your relations with the world. Having billions of heavy-weighed user profiles enables the corporation to sell anything to anyone. And you wouldn't even suspect that Google is actually selling something to you -- they know the exact place (space?) and time you'll be browsing across their ad and they'll definitely know the words to convert you in a second. There is, however, even a more dangerous aspect of Google's tremendous activities. By collecting all sorts of data about its users (read every Internet user on Earth), Google sets you and everyone else in the world under the greatest threat ever. How? * Google Toolbar knows your location, your IP address, your Internet service provider (who knows your real location), etc. * Google Checkout knows your credit card number * Google Maps & Google Earth know your travel itineraries, your favorite places, your office location, your friends' locations... even exact distance between your home and the nearest supermarket! * Google Docs reads all your private documents * Google Notebook has all your notes * Google Desktop knows your music tastes, has your images, indexes each and every file on your computer * Gmail sees all your email conversations and has all your contacts on file * Google Talk & Lively record all your VoIP talks with friends * Picasa Web Albums knows your friends' names and faces, has seen places that you visited, remembers your dog's name and won't ever forget that birthday party where you got so drunk! * Google Calendar remembers all your events, appointments and reminders * Google AdSense has access to your website where you publish their ads and, again, knows your credit card and information and all your bank account details * Google Adwords has the list of your websites that you promote through their advertising system (And, yeah, they have your financial profile on record) * Google Analytics knows absolutely everything about your websites (and products that you sell online or offline) should you have any * Youtube views every video you submit and tags every little detail in it * Blogger reads all new posts in your blog * iGoogle has passwords to your Facebook/Myspace/Writers United accounts Do you think you're safe with Google?! That's a comment on some page there. I closed it by mistake T_T, but yes. Read the terms of use. OH NO I'M DOOMED, SOMEONE WILL TRY TO SELL ME SOMETHING I ACTUALLY WANT BASED ON MY PREFERENCES!!!!! Get real man. You see ads all over the internet, and I've always hated those because, being located in Croatia, I kept seeing ads that had nothing to do with me. But lately, thanks to all the EVIL DATA they have on me, I actually see ads that interest me and am aware of what's out there for me to get. Nobody ever 'sells' you anything, you buy it if you like it. And you can't be serious in your fears that google will decide to empty your bank account? People are too afraid that some sort of real world version of evil will take over the world. They just fail to see that it can't happen, and the best way for evil to take over the world is to stop being evil and actually offer stuff that people want. Google is the best thing that happened to the world of internet.
Use chromePlus then, same stuff as chrome, doesn't steal your info, and it has the mouse gestures.
http://www.chromeplus.org/
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