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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
On February 03 2010 21:24 JohnColtrane wrote: does chrome have a version of noscript? To lazy to make a "let me google that for you" video but really just go find out. Manit0u I know the addon seems really good my point was a few features is implemented in the awsomebar already | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17850 Posts
On February 03 2010 21:24 JohnColtrane wrote: does chrome have a version of noscript? No. The closest thing you can find is Privoxy. http://lifehacker.com/5046529/how-to-block-ads-in-google-chrome | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
chrome looks good but i guess ill stick with FF | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On February 03 2010 08:45 ComradeDover wrote: rambling inane bullsite stfu | ||
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On February 03 2010 15:43 Manit0u wrote: Well, mr. Linux hater... One thing you failed to notice is that I was testing the Linux versions of all browsers to provide reliable results, it would be pointless for me to install Windows version of Chrome if a native one is available, wouldn't it? Then your review is irrelevent because nobody cares about the Linux version of anything, and if somebody did care, they wouldn't need a review because they would just do this shit themselves. On February 03 2010 15:43 Manit0u wrote: Google did a rather bad job with the Linux version of their browser though as not only it failed with flash (while both Opera and FF had no trouble with it and didn't even require me to do anything, they're fully usable right after installation) but with other things too: - it failed to locate folder for downloads as for unknown reason it was looking for a folder called Downloads in my home directory by default (and I don't have such folder) - it failed to check if it's the default browser and shown a red error in the options screen that it is even unable to perform this check The Windows version doesn't have this problem. See my above comments about getting a real browser. On February 03 2010 15:43 Manit0u wrote: I know this are minor flaws but when you see them you can't help but think: "If there are such basic flaws in it, perhaps there are also some major ones that I just can't see yet?". Or perhaps, you know, not. On February 03 2010 15:43 Manit0u wrote: Also, on the sidebar/more visibility stuff: Sure, take away the scroll but leave the god damned statusbar at the bottom of the page. Like I mentioned, in Chrome, whenever you're trying to transmit some data (open a new page or do stuff on it) it displays things that usually are displayed in the statusbar on the screen which distracts you (if something pops-up on your screen every now and then it's bound to draw your attention). I don't know if constant annoying distraction is a good tradeof for this 10-12 pixels at the bottom of the page. INSTALL WINDOWS. IT'S ALL THERE. On February 03 2010 15:43 Manit0u wrote: Edit: And what "REAL" operating system do you use? Windows. Why? Because the purpose of an operating system is the properly run the programs I need to fulfill the various tasks I have for my computer. As your "review" has shown, Linux is incapable of doing that. On February 03 2010 16:01 orgolove wrote: Fucking idiot can't learn how to read. Didn't I say 48 hours OF USE? Sigh. We've been trolled. Ignore him. 48 hours straight? 48 hours over 48 years? On February 03 2010 16:48 TheYango wrote: I guess you just never frame your pictures right? Not unless the frame adds to the artwork, no I don't. If the picture doesn't need a frame, I use something minimalistic that doesn't obstruct the picture. Why would I have a frame just for the sake of having a frame? On February 03 2010 16:48 TheYango wrote: Firefox - Extensibility. This might not remain an advantage for long, but until extensions are more stable and cover more of what people want/need, it's still a Firefox advantage. Fair enough, but like you said, I don't know how long they're going to hold that advantage. On February 03 2010 16:48 TheYango wrote: Opera - Easier out-of-the-box customizability. This is such a small point I would say it borders on being irrelevent. This is something I'd gladly trade away in exchange for the speed and stability that Chrome offers. Lol. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 04 2010 06:52 ComradeDover wrote: Then your review is irrelevent because nobody cares about the Linux version of anything, and if somebody did care, they wouldn't need a review because they would just do this shit themselves. The Windows version doesn't have this problem. See my above comments about getting a real browser. Or perhaps, you know, not. INSTALL WINDOWS. IT'S ALL THERE. Windows. Why? Because the purpose of an operating system is the properly run the programs I need to fulfill the various tasks I have for my computer. As your "review" has shown, Linux is incapable of doing that. 48 hours straight? 48 hours over 48 years? Not unless the frame adds to the artwork, no I don't. If the picture doesn't need a frame, I use something minimalistic that doesn't obstruct the picture. Why would I have a frame just for the sake of having a frame? Fair enough, but like you said, I don't know how long they're going to hold that advantage. This is such a small point I would say it borders on being irrelevent. This is something I'd gladly trade away in exchange for the speed and stability that Chrome offers. Lol. So you accept firefox customization but not opera's? Opera also features the ability to run custom scripts and had to long before firefox and it's out of the box. Also stability on chrome is dependent on version it's not the most stable browner still better then firefox with it's massive memory leaks left and right but that's hardly a unique charm to chrome. I also find chromes decoding on images to actually be the slowest out of the 4 people are bull shitters when they say chrome is the fastest or FF is the fastest etc that's just in java-script speed the shit still has to be processed in other things such as css tables and rendered on your computer, browsers when you take into account everything including natural bandwidth caps and latency to web-servers they all are about the same speed. Also alpha builds of newest opera that is available to the public are just as fast as FF nightly builds. IE9 not available to the pubic is just as fast as that as well in javascript speeds cause apparently fan boy campaigns have convinced Microsoft apparently script speed is a selling point even when they point out most websites aren't javascript heavy only a few like facebook are. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
seriously. fastest browser so far. | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
To the Linux-fanboys: chrome for linux is totally-beta, don't whine about flash not working and such. | ||
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Sapraedon
United Kingdom142 Posts
This is so true. The whole "fastest browser" debate is quite outdated now. Sure there can be a miniscule difference, but it's negligible. I prefer Firefox because of it's adaptability but for those who are worried about trying chrome due to its privacy issues, there's a version of the Chromium browser (up to date etc and fully compatably with extensions) called SRWare Iron. I also like the UI of Chrome a lot too. Also, Kenpachi, the "tearing" feature works on Ffox too. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
when you take into account everything including natural bandwidth caps and latency to web-servers they all are about the same speed. I use both Firefox and Chrome and I have no main browser at the moment. Reason being I can't choose between the two. A reason for this is that I can totally feel the difference in speed so I know you are mistaken about that. I also realize that not everyone has the same experience but I know several people in my class that shares my experiences | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 04 2010 08:02 Patriot.dlk wrote: I use both Firefox and Chrome and I have no main browser at the moment. Reason being I can't choose between the two. A reason for this is that I can totally feel the difference in speed so I know you are mistaken about that. I also realize that not everyone has the same experience but I know several people in my class that shares my experiences In psychology there is a thing observed about human over confidence and how people when you tell them something and act like it's true people will say "oh yeah, i can totally see that" and then you say oh my bad i mis-read it apparently it's the other way around "Yeah totally because xxx xxx xxx, so easy right!" The difference in speed has been measured before though macro based web page test with varying web-pages etc the difference is something 5-10ms on avg between freshly installed browsers you think you can see that most monitors can't even change their pixels that fast. Now browsers do get slower when you use them alot and don't maintain them also when you slap on add-ons etc that is the likely thing you see, anytime you try out a new browser and you are computer illiterate and so your browser is bogged down it always seems faster on the freshly installed browser. I use opera because i don't need any adds on with opera ffs i don't even use flash for flash i use IE8 exclusively just because it's the most efficient compared to the plug in ones. | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Well sure, but if we're going down that line, Terminal > all. :3 Difference between the terminal and an indexer. I still like my GUI thank you very much. On February 04 2010 08:08 Virtue wrote: In psychology there is a thing observed about human over confidence and how people when you tell them something and act like it's true people will say "oh yeah, i can totally see that" and then you say oh my bad i mis-read it apparently it's the other way around "Yeah totally because xxx xxx xxx, so easy right!" The difference in speed has been measured before though macro based web page test with varying web-pages etc the difference is something 5-10ms on avg between freshly installed browsers you think you can see that most monitors can't even change their pixels that fast. Now browsers do get slower when you use them alot and don't maintain them also when you slap on add-ons etc that is the likely thing you see, anytime you try out a new browser and you are computer illiterate and so your browser is bogged down it always seems faster on the freshly installed browser. I use opera because i don't need any adds on with opera ffs i don't even use flash for flash i use IE8 exclusively just because it's the most efficient compared to the plug in ones. The day I trust IE8 security will be the day that I die. But that's just me  | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 04 2010 08:22 Mystlord wrote: :3 Difference between the terminal and an indexer. I still like my GUI thank you very much. The day I trust IE8 security will be the day that I die. But that's just me IE8 is the most secure esp under a non admin account in windows 7. Only porb is IE is the most targeted browser so get it right yo =p oddly enough opera is probably the least secure out of the 4 but it's hardly ever targeted for it's exploits. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17850 Posts
On February 04 2010 06:52 ComradeDover wrote: Insert random bullshit here. Usually I'm a polite guy, but you're so full of shit that I just can't stand it any more. The fact that you insult OS I'm using - which is much better than yours but this is for another debate and me personally as well as other people that have made their points in this thread is something I can't really understand. I advise you to read the definition of the word 'forum' first. Then to seriously revise your behaviour. But I can't speak for others so I'll just speak for myself here. What I did was provide information relevant to the discussion at hand from my point of view. To do so I took my time, installed different browsers on my computer, did some testing on them all and then took even more time to write about my findings here. All you did on the other hand, is blindly piss on everything and everyone in your sheepish fanboyism (because if you're using Windows and Chrome just like many other computer illiterate people out there - no offence - who claim them to be superior over everything else). I could put up with it if you even provided some relevant information (just a simple link would suffice), but you failed even in doing such a simple thing. Now, because I'm in the mood: Then your review is irrelevent because nobody cares about the Linux version of anything, and if somebody did care, they wouldn't need a review because they would just do this shit themselves. I do care about Linux version of most things and I do need reviews from time to time even if I can do this shit myself. Your argument is invalid INSTALL WINDOWS. IT'S ALL THERE. Windows hasn't got half the things I care about. Your argument is invalid The Windows version doesn't have this problem. See my above comments about getting a real browser. One browser not working on my OS while 2 others are working flawlessly clearly isn't my OS problem... Your argument is invalid Windows. Why? Because the purpose of an operating system is the properly run the programs I need to fulfill the various tasks I have for my computer. As your "review" has shown, Linux is incapable of doing that. Windows was incapable of doing that so I switched to Linux. Your argument is invalid I'm tired of this bullshit. Go trolling elsewhere, beer >>> my awareness today. | ||
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
FF surely will have to evolve, but ppl still uses IE, so.... | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On February 02 2010 15:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 02 2010 14:59 Liquid_Turbo wrote: ?? I love chrome. Switched over from FF and never looked back. http://www.versluis.com/2010/01/the-scary-truth-about-googles-chrome-propaganda/ I wouldn't be that optimistic about the new browser by Google, the most powerful corporation ever. Before releasing own browser, Google was able to collect user browsing information only through Google Toolbar. If you read the G! Toolbar Terms & Conditions carefully, you'd find the lines where Google states that by installing the software a user agrees to share all browsing information with the software provider. Naturally, they couldn't force everyone to install their toolbar so the great G chose the different way. Google wants to know every little thing about you and your relations with the world. Having billions of heavy-weighed user profiles enables the corporation to sell anything to anyone. And you wouldn't even suspect that Google is actually selling something to you -- they know the exact place (space?) and time you'll be browsing across their ad and they'll definitely know the words to convert you in a second. There is, however, even a more dangerous aspect of Google's tremendous activities. By collecting all sorts of data about its users (read every Internet user on Earth), Google sets you and everyone else in the world under the greatest threat ever. How? * Google Toolbar knows your location, your IP address, your Internet service provider (who knows your real location), etc. * Google Checkout knows your credit card number * Google Maps & Google Earth know your travel itineraries, your favorite places, your office location, your friends' locations... even exact distance between your home and the nearest supermarket! * Google Docs reads all your private documents * Google Notebook has all your notes * Google Desktop knows your music tastes, has your images, indexes each and every file on your computer * Gmail sees all your email conversations and has all your contacts on file * Google Talk & Lively record all your VoIP talks with friends * Picasa Web Albums knows your friends' names and faces, has seen places that you visited, remembers your dog's name and won't ever forget that birthday party where you got so drunk! * Google Calendar remembers all your events, appointments and reminders * Google AdSense has access to your website where you publish their ads and, again, knows your credit card and information and all your bank account details * Google Adwords has the list of your websites that you promote through their advertising system (And, yeah, they have your financial profile on record) * Google Analytics knows absolutely everything about your websites (and products that you sell online or offline) should you have any * Youtube views every video you submit and tags every little detail in it * Blogger reads all new posts in your blog * iGoogle has passwords to your Facebook/Myspace/Writers United accounts Do you think you're safe with Google?! That's a comment on some page there. I closed it by mistake T_T, but yes. Read the terms of use. I don't like when people play the big brother card against google. Every website, application, operating system, and any piece software available right now does this...even Starcraft. The only difference is that when the FBI/equivalent government investigation group comes knocking on other companies' doors for information, which may or may not violate end user privacy agreements, google doesn't budge. The most serious form of intervention google has ever performed based on information they have collected has been tailoring ads (which are easily disabled) to better suit your interests and banning sites with illegal content from their search engine; and mind you, they always have a written report available for anyone to see explaining why the site was banned. | ||
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
On February 04 2010 08:42 Manit0u wrote: Usually I'm a polite guy, but you're so full of shit that I just can't stand it any more. The fact that you insult OS I'm using - which is much better than yours but this is for another debate and me personally as well as other people that have made their points in this thread is something I can't really understand. I advise you to read the definition of the word 'forum' first. Then to seriously revise your behaviour. You're offended? Either you're feigning offense or you're new to the internet. In either case, I suggest you wear a thicker skin when online if this is all it takes. On February 04 2010 08:42 Manit0u wrote: What I did was provide information relevant to the discussion at hand from my point of view. To do so I took my time, installed different browsers on my computer, did some testing on them all and then took even more time to write about my findings here. All you did on the other hand, is blindly piss on everything and everyone in your sheepish fanboyism (because if you're using Windows and Chrome just like many other computer illiterate people out there - no offence - who claim them to be superior over everything else). I could put up with it if you even provided some relevant information (just a simple link would suffice), but you failed even in doing such a simple thing. The guy who can't get his scrollbar working on Chrome is calling me computer illiterate? Oh ho ho ho... On February 04 2010 08:42 Manit0u wrote: Windows hasn't got half the things I care about. Your argument is invalid On February 04 2010 08:42 Manit0u wrote: One browser not working on my OS while 2 others are working flawlessly clearly isn't my OS problem... Your argument is invalid You specifically mentioned scrollbars and status bars as two things that you found missing in Chrome. Here is a screenshot of my Chrome running on Windows. ![[image loading]](http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7807/scrollbarandstatusbar.png) Note the big red arrows pointing to things you claimed were missing. Does Linux not have that? Boo hoo. That isn't a problem people with real operating systems have. Also; On February 04 2010 07:42 Doso wrote: To the Linux-fanboys: chrome for linux is totally-beta, don't whine about flash not working and such. This. I wasn't even aware there WAS a chrome for Linux. On February 04 2010 08:42 Manit0u wrote: I'm tired of this bullshit. Go trolling elsewhere, beer >>> my awareness today. What is it with this community that posting anything that disagrees with others is considered trolling? Wear a thicker skin, friend, and try not to take offense at everything. Life will be much easier for you. | ||
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mOnion
United States5660 Posts
on a cheerier note, this is the longest I've gone without having my thread closed. Happy mOnion is happy. continue discussing, this is fascinating and depressing at the same time, as i have NO idea what's going on anymore. | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
Also Chrome is just a joke. Bad interface and market saturation. | ||
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