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exeprime
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom643 Posts
February 02 2010 11:08 GMT
#61
Actually the Adblock for Chrome is gimped, there are ads that i never see in FF that do come up in Chrome.

And yes, Chrome is a great browser, but I really doubt it'll come even close to "killing" Firefox. I've tried it, and still use it in parallel with Firefox at times, but for my browsing habits FF is simply better. Having the browser open basically all the time means the startup time is utterly irrelevant to me, 2-3 windows of 20 tabs each actually makes Chrome slower than FF and little details such as the lack of the search bar or keyword search overall add up to a less than optimal experience. It's nice to have two excellent browsers though.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
February 02 2010 11:13 GMT
#62
chrome extensions are just packaged userscripts. They lack a lot of functionality. For instance on the ad blocker side, everything gets downloaded, chrome just doesn't render it. This is something they are working on, but it isn't there yet.

And regarding privacy, I use SRWare Iron
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
February 02 2010 11:14 GMT
#63
I think I'm going to end up trying out Chrome for a bit. Firefox is starting to lag out and the memory leaks are starting to kill me.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 11:36:19
February 02 2010 11:33 GMT
#64
On February 02 2010 19:48 FabledIntegral wrote:
I hate the tabs at the top and it doesn't feel as user friendly to me as FF is...


I do pray with you that they will come up with the right decision about that in FF 4.0:

http://mashable.com/2009/07/27/firefox-40/

Anyway, you can always use Chromium which is Chrome without Google.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 11:52:38
February 02 2010 11:49 GMT
#65
I'm 100% satisfied with Firefox, I really can't think of anything I'd want more of a browser right now. Fast, reliable, comfortable, customizable. Tried out Chrome some time ago but uninstalled it after 10 minutes.

The Chrome out of the box look is better than Firefox' one, but I still don't like it. Didn't find a way to change it, so that's a big minus already. Other than that I really didn't find anything appealing about Chrome. What's so great about it? I guess it's fast, but to be honest, I'm just saying that because everyone and the benchmarks are saying it. I don't recognize any difference to the speed of FF. Also about FF being ressource hungry, what do people mean by that? RAM? Mine is using 78MB right now, is that a lot? My RAM is idling around all the time anyway, might as well use it.

FF just looks better to me, FF 4 will look even better.

My FF right now:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


FF4:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


@riotsnowbird
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 11:57:49
February 02 2010 11:55 GMT
#66
double post..
beep boop
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 11:59:10
February 02 2010 11:55 GMT
#67
On February 02 2010 20:49 snowbird wrote:
I'm 100% satisfied with Firefox, I really can't think of anything I'd want more of a browser right now. Fast, reliable, comfortable, customizable. Tried out Chrome some time ago but uninstalled it after 10 minutes.

The Chrome out of the box look is better than Firefox' one, but I still don't like it. Didn't find a way to change it, so that's a big minus already. Other than that I really didn't find anything appealing about Chrome. What's so great about it? I guess it's fast, but to be honest, I'm just saying that because everyone and the benchmarks are saying it. I don't recognize any difference to the speed of FF. Also about FF being ressource hungry, what do people mean by that? RAM? Mine is using 78MB right now, is that a lot? My RAM is idling around all the time anyway, might as well use it.

FF just looks better to me, FF 4 will look even better.

My FF right now:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


FF4:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




I fully agree with you and I really dont get what people mean that chrome is so much faster.
I tried both and I didnt realise any difference.
And when I look at RAM chrome doesnt use less at all, but when I start the task manager chrome uses an extra window for every opened task which I find really annoying
so if i have firefox with 5 tasks open it says for example 150 000kb ram
when I open 5 tasks with chrome it goes like
30 000kb
40 000 kb
35 000 kb
30 000 kb
28 000 kb
... pretty annoying if you ask me

yeah chrome looks more stylish but honestly I couldnt give less of a shit about it.
And looks like firefox 4 is gonna look more chromish ^^
chrome is definitely gonna be more and more successful as time goes by but people should stop acting like it was so superior to firefox.
beep boop
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
February 02 2010 12:05 GMT
#68
Also, we should not forget about Mozilla's plans on making Ubiquity an integral part of Firefox (please God, make it happen!) and I simply can't think of a way any other browser could beat that in any near future:

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 02 2010 12:09 GMT
#69
greasemonkey scripts work natively in chrome

and the only way i'd use chrome is if i had an android phone
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 14:04:04
February 02 2010 12:17 GMT
#70
Say more recommended adds.

I'm using right now:

- FlashBlock - Versión: 0.9.23 REMOVED BECAUSE OF LAG
- AdBlock - Versión: 1.3.10
- Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
- Google Mail Checker - Versión: 3
- Google Quick Scroll - Versión: 0.5.5
- IE Tab - Versión: 1.0.11208.1
- MegaUpload DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0
- RapidShare DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
February 02 2010 12:24 GMT
#71
Chrome might become a better browser in a couple months once the addons catch up with Firefox, but I'm not switching until I absolutely have to.

Isn't anyone else just a tiny bit bothered by the information monopoly Google is trying to create? It's getting just plain creepy at this point, honestly. Yeah, let me Google that after I check my gmail account for new messages in my Google Chrome browser.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 02 2010 12:32 GMT
#72
On February 02 2010 21:24 Hinanawi wrote:
Chrome might become a better browser in a couple months once the addons catch up with Firefox, but I'm not switching until I absolutely have to.

Isn't anyone else just a tiny bit bothered by the information monopoly Google is trying to create? It's getting just plain creepy at this point, honestly. Yeah, let me Google that after I check my gmail account for new messages in my Google Chrome browser.

don't forget your phone!
dats racist
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
February 02 2010 13:06 GMT
#73
On February 02 2010 21:17 Vernom wrote:
Say more recommended adds.

I'm using right now:

- FlashBlock - Versión: 0.9.23
- Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
- Google Mail Checker - Versión: 3
- Google Quick Scroll - Versión: 0.5.5
- IE Tab - Versión: 1.0.11208.1
- MegaUpload DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0
- RapidShare DownloadHelper - Versión: 1.0


Firebug (great for developers but works for ordinary people with rudimentary knowledge if you want to see what exactly is on the site you're browsing and what it does).
Ad-Block (obviously)
NoScript (can be a bit annoying but is of great help if you 'accidentaly' visit some shady sites)
DownloadHelper (for downloading videos from YouTube, something what Chrome will never implement seeing as YT is owned by Google)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 02 2010 13:11 GMT
#74
On February 02 2010 21:17 Vernom wrote:
- Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
- Google Mail Checker - Versión: 3

I can't see how these would be useful. Why use your browser for something that a dedicated Mail/Calendar client would do better?
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SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
February 02 2010 13:21 GMT
#75
I like Opera, only having FF installed for my online school... because it only supports FF and IE.

I have tried Chrome, it's alright. If they want to improve Chrome to make it standout more, good for them. But Opera man... I'll stay on that as long as I can. I'm too used to the mouse navigation shortcuts lol.
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
February 02 2010 13:26 GMT
#76
On February 02 2010 15:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 14:59 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
On February 02 2010 14:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Chrome steals your info. I'm ok.


??

I love chrome. Switched over from FF and never looked back.


http://www.versluis.com/2010/01/the-scary-truth-about-googles-chrome-propaganda/


I wouldn't be that optimistic about the new browser by Google, the most powerful corporation ever.

Before releasing own browser, Google was able to collect user browsing information only through Google Toolbar. If you read the G! Toolbar Terms & Conditions carefully, you'd find the lines where Google states that by installing the software a user agrees to share all browsing information with the software provider. Naturally, they couldn't force everyone to install their toolbar so the great G chose the different way.

Google wants to know every little thing about you and your relations with the world. Having billions of heavy-weighed user profiles enables the corporation to sell anything to anyone. And you wouldn't even suspect that Google is actually selling something to you -- they know the exact place (space?) and time you'll be browsing across their ad and they'll definitely know the words to convert you in a second.

There is, however, even a more dangerous aspect of Google's tremendous activities. By collecting all sorts of data about its users (read every Internet user on Earth), Google sets you and everyone else in the world under the greatest threat ever. How?

* Google Toolbar knows your location, your IP address, your Internet service provider (who knows your real location), etc.
* Google Checkout knows your credit card number
* Google Maps & Google Earth know your travel itineraries, your favorite places, your office location, your friends' locations... even exact distance between your home and the nearest supermarket!
* Google Docs reads all your private documents
* Google Notebook has all your notes
* Google Desktop knows your music tastes, has your images, indexes each and every file on your computer
* Gmail sees all your email conversations and has all your contacts on file
* Google Talk & Lively record all your VoIP talks with friends
* Picasa Web Albums knows your friends' names and faces, has seen places that you visited, remembers your dog's name and won't ever forget that birthday party where you got so drunk!
* Google Calendar remembers all your events, appointments and reminders
* Google AdSense has access to your website where you publish their ads and, again, knows your credit card and information and all your bank account details
* Google Adwords has the list of your websites that you promote through their advertising system (And, yeah, they have your financial profile on record)
* Google Analytics knows absolutely everything about your websites (and products that you sell online or offline) should you have any
* Youtube views every video you submit and tags every little detail in it
* Blogger reads all new posts in your blog
* iGoogle has passwords to your Facebook/Myspace/Writers United accounts

Do you think you're safe with Google?!

That's a comment on some page there. I closed it by mistake T_T, but yes. Read the terms of use.


OH NO I'M DOOMED, SOMEONE WILL TRY TO SELL ME SOMETHING I ACTUALLY WANT BASED ON MY PREFERENCES!!!!!

Get real man.
You see ads all over the internet, and I've always hated those because, being located in Croatia, I kept seeing ads that had nothing to do with me. But lately, thanks to all the EVIL DATA they have on me, I actually see ads that interest me and am aware of what's out there for me to get. Nobody ever 'sells' you anything, you buy it if you like it.

And you can't be serious in your fears that google will decide to empty your bank account?
People are too afraid that some sort of real world version of evil will take over the world. They just fail to see that it can't happen, and the best way for evil to take over the world is to stop being evil and actually offer stuff that people want. Google is the best thing that happened to the world of internet.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 02 2010 13:28 GMT
#77
On February 02 2010 20:13 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
chrome extensions are just packaged userscripts. They lack a lot of functionality. For instance on the ad blocker side, everything gets downloaded, chrome just doesn't render it. This is something they are working on, but it isn't there yet.

And regarding privacy, I use SRWare Iron

I prefer it that way. I'd hate for all my data to be filtered by a 3rd party server. Data going through the tubes that doesn't get executed, is just fine by me.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 02 2010 13:30 GMT
#78
On February 02 2010 20:55 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 20:49 snowbird wrote:
I'm 100% satisfied with Firefox, I really can't think of anything I'd want more of a browser right now. Fast, reliable, comfortable, customizable. Tried out Chrome some time ago but uninstalled it after 10 minutes.

The Chrome out of the box look is better than Firefox' one, but I still don't like it. Didn't find a way to change it, so that's a big minus already. Other than that I really didn't find anything appealing about Chrome. What's so great about it? I guess it's fast, but to be honest, I'm just saying that because everyone and the benchmarks are saying it. I don't recognize any difference to the speed of FF. Also about FF being ressource hungry, what do people mean by that? RAM? Mine is using 78MB right now, is that a lot? My RAM is idling around all the time anyway, might as well use it.

FF just looks better to me, FF 4 will look even better.

My FF right now:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


FF4:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




I fully agree with you and I really dont get what people mean that chrome is so much faster.
I tried both and I didnt realise any difference.
And when I look at RAM chrome doesnt use less at all, but when I start the task manager chrome uses an extra window for every opened task which I find really annoying
so if i have firefox with 5 tasks open it says for example 150 000kb ram
when I open 5 tasks with chrome it goes like
30 000kb
40 000 kb
35 000 kb
30 000 kb
28 000 kb
... pretty annoying if you ask me

yeah chrome looks more stylish but honestly I couldnt give less of a shit about it.
And looks like firefox 4 is gonna look more chromish ^^
chrome is definitely gonna be more and more successful as time goes by but people should stop acting like it was so superior to firefox.

I'm a client-heavy web developer and I DEFINITELY notice the difference. Any UI components in Chrome are handled much better than in Firefox. I mean the difference is ENORMOUS. Try using various web-standard drag/drop packages for javascript and you'll see what I mean.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 02 2010 13:34 GMT
#79
I think once market share is gained in a basically fully "grown" market, it's difficult to "steal" market share unless you really do something to change the landscape
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
February 02 2010 13:42 GMT
#80
On February 02 2010 22:28 love1another wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 20:13 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
chrome extensions are just packaged userscripts. They lack a lot of functionality. For instance on the ad blocker side, everything gets downloaded, chrome just doesn't render it. This is something they are working on, but it isn't there yet.

And regarding privacy, I use SRWare Iron

I prefer it that way. I'd hate for all my data to be filtered by a 3rd party server. Data going through the tubes that doesn't get executed, is just fine by me.

From what I can tell how Chrome extensions work all they can do is hide the ads you load. They are essentially glorified Greasemonkey userscripts and not at all comparable to Firefox extensions.

Adblock on Firefox does not route ads through a 3rd party server. Firefox just doesn't request them. Not loading ads speeds up browsing significantly and obviously saves bandwidth. Just not showing them has much less of an effect.
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