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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 20:03:55
January 05 2010 19:55 GMT
#41
On January 06 2010 04:46 zeroimagination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 04:40 Pakje wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:28 zeroimagination wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:23 Pakje wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:18 zeroimagination wrote:
I never said Hyper-Threading helped in games, though ironically it did in DA: Origins according to Anandtech. Also, the screen shot is done with Intel's IGP which no serious gamer would settle for either way.

4 physical cores at the moment is still holding strong in 3D rendering and video encoding, but Hyper-Threading provides a cheaper alternative for gamers who still want to be able to do those things, play games at high frames, and not spend an exorbitant amount of money.


except that you can get the athlon 620 quadcore for 100$

I mentioned specifically in my OP that the Athlon 620 is still a good choice. Let's face it though, the 620 is not nearly in the same league in terms of gaming. Most people would spend the extra $13 for the possibility to hit 4GHz, as well.


these days gaming is very gpu limited.
a athlon 620 with a hd 5870 would easily beat a i7 920 with a hd 5770
source

also do you know how much the chipsets will cost? I don't think it's only going to be 13$ extra

edit: not many people as you think overclock

Well, i3/i5 duals are socket 1156. Some good and cheap P55 motherboards can be had right now for around $100. Newer, supposedly more mainstream H57 motherboards will be out but I have no idea about the price of those.

Sure, an Athlon 620 with a 5870 will probably outperform an i7 980X with a 5770. But an Athlon 620 with a 5870 will probably be outperformed by a i3 530 with a 5870.

If we aren't taking into account overclocking, the Athlon 620 falls even further behind. As it won't be as near as competent in gaming.

Actually an Athlon II x3 425 is ~ x4 620 for gaming
( in many games the higher freq >= the extra core ).
You can get it for 75$. Now if Intel had something to beat that it woud be impressive.

Btw the i3 is mediocre in some games:
For Arma II vision 10km, max gfx, 800x600 its fps arent better than the x4 620 or the x3 425
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/780-11/intel-core-i5-i3-32nm.html

Good for Crysis though.


fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
January 05 2010 20:10 GMT
#42
did ur professor exonerated you from plagiarism?
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
zeroimagination
Profile Joined August 2009
18 Posts
January 05 2010 20:40 GMT
#43
On January 06 2010 04:55 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 04:46 zeroimagination wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:40 Pakje wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:28 zeroimagination wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:23 Pakje wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:18 zeroimagination wrote:
I never said Hyper-Threading helped in games, though ironically it did in DA: Origins according to Anandtech. Also, the screen shot is done with Intel's IGP which no serious gamer would settle for either way.

4 physical cores at the moment is still holding strong in 3D rendering and video encoding, but Hyper-Threading provides a cheaper alternative for gamers who still want to be able to do those things, play games at high frames, and not spend an exorbitant amount of money.


except that you can get the athlon 620 quadcore for 100$

I mentioned specifically in my OP that the Athlon 620 is still a good choice. Let's face it though, the 620 is not nearly in the same league in terms of gaming. Most people would spend the extra $13 for the possibility to hit 4GHz, as well.


these days gaming is very gpu limited.
a athlon 620 with a hd 5870 would easily beat a i7 920 with a hd 5770
source

also do you know how much the chipsets will cost? I don't think it's only going to be 13$ extra

edit: not many people as you think overclock

Well, i3/i5 duals are socket 1156. Some good and cheap P55 motherboards can be had right now for around $100. Newer, supposedly more mainstream H57 motherboards will be out but I have no idea about the price of those.

Sure, an Athlon 620 with a 5870 will probably outperform an i7 980X with a 5770. But an Athlon 620 with a 5870 will probably be outperformed by a i3 530 with a 5870.

If we aren't taking into account overclocking, the Athlon 620 falls even further behind. As it won't be as near as competent in gaming.

Actually an Athlon II x3 425 is ~ x4 620 for gaming
( in many games the higher freq >= the extra core ).
You can get it for 75$. Now if Intel had something to beat that it woud be impressive.

Btw the i3 is mediocre in some games:
For Arma II vision 10km, max gfx, 800x600 its fps arent better than the x4 620 or the x3 425
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/780-11/intel-core-i5-i3-32nm.html

Good for Crysis though.



Who actually plays at 800x600? I don't think that is an effective way to benchmark CPUs, it may help eliminate the graphics bottleneck but lower res would mean less polygons for the CPU to draw.

Take a look at this instead. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3704&p=13
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Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
January 05 2010 20:47 GMT
#44
obviously they are higher priced then the athlon 620
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