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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 15 2009 20:26 GMT
#101
slightly offtopic: Ivana Trump is strangely hot.
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
October 15 2009 20:27 GMT
#102
On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:
On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:
On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:
On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:
On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully).

What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead.


http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.html

There are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable.

I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults.
But here's to hoping.

Actually lets hope he's just hiding...


I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...)
3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground.


uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting.


do you guys not understand acceleration?... it sounds as if you think acceleration is the same terminal velocity.. No one would survive a fall of 8000 feet... that's like saying people jumping off the Empire State Building all should live since i don't think its even a quarter of a mile high. The terminal velocity of a falling 6 year old boy would not be 3.5 ft/s. I think it would be something closer to 100 mph.

Acceleration is in units of meters per a second SQUARED, which means that for every second you would be moving 9.8 meters faster than before from gravity.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 20:35:28
October 15 2009 20:30 GMT
#103
This is a video they made.

I think 3:01 is one of the most hilarious cases of foreshadowing I have ever seen.
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Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
October 15 2009 20:31 GMT
#104
On October 16 2009 05:27 jiabung wrote:
No one would survive a fall of 8000 feet... that's like saying people jumping off the Empire State Building all should live.
People have survived falls from higher than that before. Doesn't mean that everyone will survive though (on the contrary, it's a freak accident).
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2673 Posts
October 15 2009 20:31 GMT
#105
I guess for a short while, he was Captain Falcon.
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 20:34:32
October 15 2009 20:32 GMT
#106
Well, even though we know that terminal velocity is not equal to acceleration, I would like to point out that if Earth accelerates you faster (let's say 20m/s² instead of 10m/s²), that would be because the force Earth exerces on you is 2 times higher, so it would take a 2 time higher force from air resistance to stop you from accelerating, which means that your terminal velocity increases because the force exerced by air resistance depends on your actual velocity.

It's not proportional, but there is still a correlation between acceleration and terminal velocity.
kekekekyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada32 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 20:39:44
October 15 2009 20:36 GMT
#107
Vt = (2mg/rhoAC_d)^1/2
Vt = (2*21*9.81 / 1.225*0.8*1.2)^(1/2)
Vt = 18.7m/s

assumptions:
mass of child = 21kg
cross sectional area of falling child = 0.8m^2 (used avg. height)
drag coefficient of falling child = 1.2

edit: the drag coefficient comes from a skydiver's, it would actually be smaller for a 6 year old
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
October 15 2009 20:39 GMT
#108
On October 16 2009 05:31 Tsagacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 05:27 jiabung wrote:
No one would survive a fall of 8000 feet... that's like saying people jumping off the Empire State Building all should live.
People have survived falls from higher than that before. Doesn't mean that everyone will survive though (on the contrary, it's a freak accident).


The only people that would survive are ones that landed in snow or a bush, or had something like tree branches or flag poles slowing them down before they hit the ground. Otherwise, there is no way not to die on impact with the ground if you're moving at something like 100mph.
Xstatic
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States765 Posts
October 15 2009 20:40 GMT
#109
I love how this turned from a discussion about the kid's safety and stupidity to mathematical proofs of his ability to survive.

No matter how much you calculate, it all depends on the time and condition in which they find him. If he fell and it takes too long to get medical attention, it's GG. If he was never up there, then he's all right, except from whipping from parents :D
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 15 2009 20:41 GMT
#110
So I wonder if there was a basket attached to the bottom, if he indeed fell I would think the basket went with him if there ever was one because I was under the impression that he was INSIDE the balloon.
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FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 20:45:18
October 15 2009 20:44 GMT
#111
He was never in the Balloon!



http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/10/15/colorado.boy.balloon/index.html

Or he fell out of it.
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
October 15 2009 20:46 GMT
#112
On October 16 2009 05:40 Xstatic wrote:
I love how this turned from a discussion about the kid's safety and stupidity to mathematical proofs of his ability to survive.

No matter how much you calculate, it all depends on the time and condition in which they find him. If he fell and it takes too long to get medical attention, it's GG. If he was never up there, then he's all right, except from whipping from parents :D


If he did indeed fall from the balloon, he would be dead. It wouldn't even matter if paramedics were already at the scene. In fact, If he fell on a paramedic from the sky, both the paramedic and the kid would probably die. And since the kid was found not to be in the balloon, it kind of warrants discussion if he could have survived the fall or not. Which he could not have... unless he fell on an inclined mountain of snow... while hitting a bunch of tree branches along the way.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
October 15 2009 20:51 GMT
#113
Does anyone else see a resemblence between this and the movie 12 monkeys? With the 'kid who fell down the well' was just a prank and he was hiding in the barn?
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 15 2009 20:53 GMT
#114
On October 16 2009 05:51 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Does anyone else see a resemblence between this and the movie 12 monkeys? With the 'kid who fell down the well' was just a prank and he was hiding in the barn?

This is a scenario that has happened many times. Child pranks sometimes get big like this, I recall a few occasions.
(reference to a great movie nonetheless:-p)
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fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
October 15 2009 20:56 GMT
#115
According to CNN there might have been a box on the bottom of the balloon before it lifted off and obviously isn't there now. Was said it wasn't meant to hold anyone and was poorly attached but isn't on it anymore ;;
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
October 15 2009 20:57 GMT
#116
I assume that it was quite rural where the balloon flew or am I wrong? Didnt look it up since I'm really tired. Could take a huge while to find the kid if he fell out. And if he were never in the balloon he is a champ when it comes to hide and seek. On the other hand I would stay away too if I had "lost" my parents balloonthingy.
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
October 15 2009 21:05 GMT
#117
the balloon looks like Alien ship.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 15 2009 21:07 GMT
#118
On October 16 2009 06:05 ProoM wrote:
the balloon looks like Alien ship.

Yes, I noticed that too, I'm sure experimenting families like this are source to many many ufo sightings
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Monstah-_-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
249 Posts
October 15 2009 21:15 GMT
#119
On October 16 2009 04:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
just read this somewhere else lol.



Same, feel sorry for the kid but if he is at least 6 he would have known to get off the exact second.
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
October 15 2009 21:20 GMT
#120
Maybe he thought it was a shuttle and he wanted to zealot bomb some random siege tanks
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