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On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground.
uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting.
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On October 16 2009 05:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 04:59 dangots0ul wrote:On October 16 2009 04:58 Smokin_Squirrel wrote:This story is getting so interesting  I hope the sibling wasn't pranking. That would be such a disappointing twist. maybe so. but you gotta pull for it man. i really really hope they were pranking or he survived. but the helium thing they are talking about it... good point. kid may have dead and then fallen out.. door wasn't locked and that shit is spinning and going 30 mph Then why was the door still shut. Also I would think air would flood into the balloon and it would have landed earlier.
Yeah good point. Looking it.. i dont know if that thing could have carried a boy.. it looked so flimsy when it landed y'no?
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Dear god  I hope he's alright somewhere
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On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground. uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting.
Gravity is not the only force acting on him though. While I'm not too sure on his numbers, the fact that gravity has free fall acceleration of -9.8 m/s doesn't mean that he HAS to fall at a speed faster than the acceleration of gravity.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Terminal velocity is 60 yards per second. A kid might not fall at 120 mph, but it still doesn't bode well for the kid.
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On October 16 2009 05:08 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground. uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting. Gravity is not the only force acting on him though. While I'm not too sure on his numbers, the fact that gravity has free fall acceleration of -9.8 m/s doesn't mean that he HAS to fall at a speed faster than the acceleration of gravity.
the clothes of a 6 yr old are not going to create enough resistance to reduce his plummet speed by a factor of 3
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On October 16 2009 05:08 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground. uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting. Gravity is not the only force acting on him though. While I'm not too sure on his numbers, the fact that gravity has free fall acceleration of -9.8 m/s doesn't mean that he HAS to fall at a speed faster than the acceleration of gravity.
Ok, get your physics straight, sentences like "falling at a speed faster then the accelaration of gravity" make no sense.
Also, when making free-fall velocity calculations, you have to take into consideration that the drag force of the air is linear with speed only up until a certain falling velocity, after that its quadratic. (thats why terminal velocity is kinda stagnating after a certain height.) I dont know much about exact numbers though, nor do I want to calculate such things.
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On October 16 2009 05:11 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 05:08 randombum wrote:On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground. uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting. Gravity is not the only force acting on him though. While I'm not too sure on his numbers, the fact that gravity has free fall acceleration of -9.8 m/s doesn't mean that he HAS to fall at a speed faster than the acceleration of gravity. the clothes of a 6 yr old are not going to create enough resistance to reduce his plummet speed by a factor of 3
Velocity (speed) does not equal acceleration. Gravity could be 100m/s2 and the terminal velocity could be the same.
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CNN says it doesnt look like he fell out, as the door does not look breached, they are searching on the ground now.
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On October 16 2009 04:40 ghermination wrote:
They're worried about whether or not he's sealed in a chamber with pure helium. If that was the case he'd have been dead after a couple of minutes. Here's my question: How the hell did he get in there? I want a diagram.
Edit: He's not in it.
This post is awesome because it was never actually edited.
also kids on the ground somewhere.
Edit: The kid just wanted his second fifteen minutes of fame.
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Sanya12364 Posts
2.5 miles an hour is the speed achieved by falling from ~.125 seconds or basically a hop of 1/4 feet.
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On October 16 2009 05:16 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 05:11 mOnion wrote:On October 16 2009 05:08 randombum wrote:On October 16 2009 05:05 mOnion wrote:On October 16 2009 04:56 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:54 538 wrote:On October 16 2009 04:52 ghermination wrote:On October 16 2009 04:49 sixghost wrote:On October 16 2009 04:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
wth, that's gonna be an interesting tale to tell, after he gets rescued (hopefully). What do you mean? He either was never in the thing, or he fell out of it and is very very dead. http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffallers.htmlThere are many cases of people surviving 20,000+ foot falls, i'm assuming 8000 feet would be possible but not probable. I think a 6-year-old boy's body is necessarily more susceptible to any kind of damage caused by an impact then that of an adults. But here's to hoping. Actually lets hope he's just hiding... I'm thinking more mathematically about it. Obviously it's not like he would walk out of that fall but the terminal velocity of a 45 pound 6 year old is quite a bit less than that of a 200 pound man. With drag caused by his clothes he would probably only fall at around (doing math...) 3.45 - 3.7525 feet per second, which is about 2.5 miles per hour. He would probably move faster through the rarified air at that altitude but would slow down to around that speed when he got closer to the ground. uh, wtf? gravity accelerates you at 10 m/s. which is 3x faster than you're suggesting. Gravity is not the only force acting on him though. While I'm not too sure on his numbers, the fact that gravity has free fall acceleration of -9.8 m/s doesn't mean that he HAS to fall at a speed faster than the acceleration of gravity. the clothes of a 6 yr old are not going to create enough resistance to reduce his plummet speed by a factor of 3 Velocity (speed) does not equal acceleration. Gravity could be 100m/s2 and the terminal velocity could be the same.
o really? i had no idea! is acceleration a change of direction too? even if there's no change in delta velocity? -_-
you think i dont know that? regardless the POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE is that there's no way the kid is falling at 3 f/s like the OP suggested.
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According to the CNN Live Report, authorities think he wasn't in the balloon at all, and are searching the neighborhood.
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On October 16 2009 05:21 Triple7 wrote:
According to the CNN Live Report, authorities think he wasn't in the balloon at all, and are searching the neighborhood.
aw thats no fun
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im skeptical that a balloon of that size would even be able to carry a six year old. surely it's not big enough.
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On October 16 2009 05:23 lazz wrote:
im skeptical that a balloon of that size would even be able to carry a six year old. surely it's not big enough.
it is big enough, and don't call me Shirley.
ZING
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On October 16 2009 05:24 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2009 05:23 lazz wrote:
im skeptical that a balloon of that size would even be able to carry a six year old. surely it's not big enough. it is big enough, and don't call me Shirley. ZING
Does it come with an inflatable auto pilot?
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He was inspired by the Movie UP.
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So i wonder if the kid will get a good beating if his parents find him safe and well at home?
Would be pretty lulzy to see that live
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