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Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
November 23 2009 05:20 GMT
#1081
Yea from time to time.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
November 23 2009 05:23 GMT
#1082
Hahahahaha. Everything you said is almost exactly the prevailing opinion of BigSoccer on all of those issues. That's good stuff. I agree with pretty much everything. Adu is still only 20, so he still has some time. I hope the US gets healthy in time for the WC, we are the walking wounded right now.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 05:32:16
November 23 2009 05:30 GMT
#1083
I learned about bigsoccer through here actually
Anyway, how long can Adu supporters fall back on his age?
Seriously, I remember 2 years ago, people were saying - give him time, he's only 18!

These years are the informative years; players need to have steady playing time if they are to become anything.

I also have it on good authority that he isn't 20.
I know I know, this isn't a credible source but I live in MD and have several friends who live in Montgomery County and have met Adu (he lived in Rockville) on several occasions.
They all tell me that he's older than what his birth certificate says.
I have no reason to believe my friends are lying so either I'm lying or they're mistaken.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
November 23 2009 06:18 GMT
#1084
Only time will tell with Adu. He shows flashes whenever he plays, but turns it over often as well. Who knows
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 23 2009 06:33 GMT
#1085
I know there's probably no one else who cares, but fucking suck it Fenerbahçe.

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white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
November 23 2009 15:25 GMT
#1086
omg.. Rossi. seriously you cannot tell me that he was raised in the US. That guy went to Italy like 12 or something, and he had visits back with his parent prior to his 'official move' not to mention the fact that his father is football crazy and must have coached his son much better than the average us camps or whatever.

Adu is like super shit for all the hype. Saw him play in europe in random matches and he is not that skilled and not even fast (considering he is winger/forward). Can't see him playing in a big team tbh, and he is not young, no, not at all. Most of the skills are developed pre-18 and vision probably even earlier. You only improve stuff like anticipation, positioning and decisions once you reach 20, unless he is one of those weird kid where he never had the environment to perform and improve.
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 15:38:10
November 23 2009 15:36 GMT
#1087
O no doubt about the Rossi situation. I don't harp on him as much as other people (on bigsoccer). Don't really care but he is a US citizen; lol jersey boy.

And agree about Adu; he stopped growing long ago (hyped early cause he physically matured early) and is too slow and weak to make up for his lack of size. He gets pushed off the ball easily.

But if you think he's skill less, you should see the rest of the USMNT.
If you watch us play, we look so unnatural with the ball at our feet.
At least Adu looks comfortable with the ball at his feet.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 16:42:48
November 23 2009 16:40 GMT
#1088
On November 24 2009 00:25 white_box921 wrote:
You only improve stuff like anticipation, positioning and decisions once you reach 20, unless he is one of those weird kid where he never had the environment to perform and improve.

Tell that to Drogba. He was quite bad and unknown until 23-24.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
November 23 2009 16:42 GMT
#1089
On November 24 2009 00:25 white_box921 wrote:
omg.. Rossi. seriously you cannot tell me that he was raised in the US. That guy went to Italy like 12 or something, and he had visits back with his parent prior to his 'official move' not to mention the fact that his father is football crazy and must have coached his son much better than the average us camps or whatever.

Adu is like super shit for all the hype. Saw him play in europe in random matches and he is not that skilled and not even fast (considering he is winger/forward). Can't see him playing in a big team tbh, and he is not young, no, not at all. Most of the skills are developed pre-18 and vision probably even earlier. You only improve stuff like anticipation, positioning and decisions once you reach 20, unless he is one of those weird kid where he never had the environment to perform and improve.



As far as I've seen playing in lower division leagues myself, most 23-26 yr olds are in much better physical state than -23 players. Field vision can be developed by age as well.

In my case it's different since I am a goalkeeper and we just get better and better with age until we turn senile
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
November 23 2009 16:44 GMT
#1090
On November 23 2009 11:19 white_box921 wrote:
seriously.... this guy is crying because of not participating in a MLS final? fuck, what happen if he is playing for something bigger? mental breakdown on the field or something...



Come on, it is still a major tournment for him. I cried when I got injured out of a final tournment in local team I was in. Yes, I was fourteen, but then again the MLS player is a professional and his life revolves around football...
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 17:05:58
November 23 2009 17:01 GMT
#1091
Drogba didn't even get proper training when he was young. If you get good training since a young age, you won't improve when you are in the 20's unless it is physical condition, communication etc which naturally progress with age.

Vision is very hard to develop unless you have basically none in the first place. It is like me watching some asian people in my university who can't even kick the ball pass the half way line, yes, they have got massive room to improve and you can see they excel because they are shit in the first place.

yea, I guess it is a big tournament for MLS, but it is just strange to see someone cry when they got injured. I am ok with emotion and stuff, but the game hasn't finish. The player need to support the team, let them know that this match has body counts, and you sacrificed yourself (not so much in this case). My views maybe a bit extreme, so yea... whatever

edit: This is strange, because the two case mentioned, Rossi and Drogba, I actually have read their interview somewhere (Probably 442) and they talked about how they didn't take a normal footballers' path. If you throw me some other example, I probably don't know what to say (i.e. Toni, which I know nothing about apart from his wiki page).

ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 23 2009 20:55 GMT
#1092
On November 24 2009 02:01 white_box921 wrote:
Drogba didn't even get proper training when he was young. If you get good training since a young age, you won't improve when you are in the 20's unless it is physical condition, communication etc which naturally progress with age.

Vision is very hard to develop unless you have basically none in the first place. It is like me watching some asian people in my university who can't even kick the ball pass the half way line, yes, they have got massive room to improve and you can see they excel because they are shit in the first place.

yea, I guess it is a big tournament for MLS, but it is just strange to see someone cry when they got injured. I am ok with emotion and stuff, but the game hasn't finish. The player need to support the team, let them know that this match has body counts, and you sacrificed yourself (not so much in this case). My views maybe a bit extreme, so yea... whatever

edit: This is strange, because the two case mentioned, Rossi and Drogba, I actually have read their interview somewhere (Probably 442) and they talked about how they didn't take a normal footballers' path. If you throw me some other example, I probably don't know what to say (i.e. Toni, which I know nothing about apart from his wiki page).


heh oh man you don't know how frustrating is too get injured, im not surprised they cried at all , its a mix of impotence , not being able to do anything just wait as long as you recover with training and sadness that you can't do your favorite thing for a long time, im glad i never been injured for a long period of time
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
November 23 2009 20:57 GMT
#1093
Changing subjects, has anyone else noticed the utter rampage Sunderland is on especially vs the big 4?
Hi
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 24 2009 05:05 GMT
#1094
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It had to be done.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
November 24 2009 07:35 GMT
#1095
On November 24 2009 05:57 kidd wrote:
Changing subjects, has anyone else noticed the utter rampage Sunderland is on especially vs the big 4?

true, sunderland gained 7 points against big4, i'm glad the only team the lost to is chelsea.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
November 24 2009 20:41 GMT
#1096
Barça outplaying Inter ^_^ worth watching
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
November 24 2009 21:42 GMT
#1097
On November 25 2009 05:41 Telemako wrote:
Barça outplaying Inter ^_^ worth watching

Not really, game ended after Piques goal T_T. Inter was no match here...
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
November 24 2009 21:43 GMT
#1098
On November 25 2009 06:42 kroko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 05:41 Telemako wrote:
Barça outplaying Inter ^_^ worth watching

Not really, game ended after Piques goal T_T. Inter was no match here...

Exactly what I was thinking, probably the worst game I've watched in awhile. Pedro's playacting is the death of Football.
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 24 2009 21:47 GMT
#1099
Consider how Inter played in the CL in the last few years, I dont see how inter can win Serie A 4 times straight.

This is just pathetic.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 24 2009 21:52 GMT
#1100
On November 25 2009 06:47 ky[Z] wrote:
Consider how Inter played in the CL in the last few years, I dont see how inter can win Serie A 4 times straight.

This is just pathetic.


Just shows you how low Serie A has fallen.
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