EPTAnyways I have noticed that handballs are almoust never called, atleast if defender does it at box.
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
Anyways I have noticed that handballs are almoust never called, atleast if defender does it at box. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On November 19 2009 09:51 kroko wrote: Henrys handball was pure accident :O. Anyways I have noticed that handballs are almoust never called, atleast if defender does it at box. Did you watch the clip? he moves his hand before the ball touches him to trap it. Are you saying his hand suddenly made a strange trapping motion? | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:02 kroko wrote: For me it looks like he is running. Do u run without moving ur hands ? ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20407/24exhy8.gif) hahahha, who moves their hand like that when they run? You can't be serious. | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
I think the thing that is really stopping video replay is the implementation of the technology, obviously it wouldn't be a problem with all these high profile matches that we see, but what about lower down the league or even countries that are not so technological advanced, what are you going to do then? And what about the ref, who decide when to use video replay, then it comes into the question what happen if he doesn't use it. If there are 10 penalty claim in one match, then another 10 crazy tackle, this ref got a seriously hard game. Then it raise another question, who is good enough to make a decision with video replay, i.e. penalty. As well as the actual ref who uses it. So if a country like Ghana who cannot afford video replay within their country, does that mean their ref will never be able to participate in a world cup? So it may create some sort of bias since all ref will be from Europe (at least mostly). edit: wow, this is one big block of text, but whatever, just take it people. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:05 white_box921 wrote: not players fault, they job is to win, and considering we are talking about the WC....... I think the thing that is really stopping video replay is the implementation of the technology, obviously it wouldn't be a problem with all these high profile matches that we see, but what about lower down the league or even countries that are not so technological advanced, what are you going to do then? And what about the ref, who decide when to use video replay, then it comes into the question what happen if he doesn't use it. If there are 10 penalty claim in one match, then another 10 crazy tackle, this ref got a seriously hard game. Then it raise another question, who is good enough to make a decision with video replay, i.e. penalty. As well as the actual ref who uses it. So if a country like Ghana who cannot afford video replay within their country, does that mean their ref will never be able to participate in a world cup? So it may create some sort of bias since all ref will be from Europe (at least mostly). edit: wow, this is one big block of text, but whatever, just take it people. Very, very good points. I know USA often plays teams in CONCACAF (Cuba, Guatemala, El Salvador, T&T, Etc.) that I don't think would be possible to have video replay. Such a shame, refereeing is becoming so difficult with players embellishing and flopping more. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
nice article about the henry handball | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:09 zerglingsfolife wrote: Very, very good points. I know USA often plays teams in CONCACAF (Cuba, Guatemala, El Salvador, T&T, Etc.) that I don't think would be possible to have video replay. Such a shame, refereeing is becoming so difficult with players embellishing and flopping more. ... they have video replay even in div 2 rugby >.< All they need is some cameras + one more ref. Nothing that expensive even for Third World countries. FIFA could help them anyway. That's not like if this kind of match happen on daily basis lol. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:11 Boblion wrote: ... they have video replay even in div 2 rugby >.< When USA played Guatemala, they barely had lighting to light the field. The US jerseys that were blue were black on screen. Players faces were 10X darker. I'm not sure if that's feasible. | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
I guess it would be a problem to put in camera and extra ref in some shitty league in Africa, and the refs there really wouldn't get much exposure to this type of system. I would love to know if there are any top ref from the minority country in rugby. I am sure all these things have been thought of before, and there is still problem with video replay. | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
"I will be honest, it was a handball. But I'm not the ref," Henry said. "I played it. The ref allowed it. That's a question you should ask him."[...] "It would have been better to do it in another way, but as I said, I'm not the ref." | ||
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Nanoo
229 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:32 BroOd wrote: lame excuse.. wheres the "SORRY" | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
Noone is to blame though, except the entire dumb fucking organization for not having a videoplayback challenge system. | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
I honestly don't think he needs to say "sorry". This was for the World Cup; 99% of all people on Earth would have made the same decision had it been theirs to make. The majority of the fault lies not with Henry, but the system that allowed this to happen. An idea that was being thrown around on Goal.com was to have two more refs on the field, one on each goal line. Their only duty is to watch for penaltys, handballs, and other plays that hold huge implications. I also feel that two extra referees are much easier to obtain than a state of the art replay system in poorer countries like the ones mentioned. | ||
Waxangel
United States33603 Posts
On November 19 2009 10:24 Liquid`Drone wrote: ive heard most serious suggestions regarding video refereeing basically gave each coach 2-3 occasions during each game where they could contest a decision. so it wouldn't be used flimsily, wouldnt disrupt the game too much (as all really controversial decisions already disrupt the game with players objecting as it is), and would enable teams to revert blatantly wrong offsides or penalties. From american football, stop hating on it  | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
There is wayyyyyyyyyy less money in rugby and it works FINE. It is just that the Fifa has no balls. What a shame | ||
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QibingZero
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