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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 18 2009 23:06 GMT
#861
On November 19 2009 08:01 Nitro68 wrote:
The two offside player don't touch the ball, so no offside. But the hand...

We need a real team


one of the guys interfered with play though, he got tangled up with the Irish defender.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 18 2009 23:07 GMT
#862
On November 19 2009 08:01 Nitro68 wrote:
The two offside player don't touch the ball, so no offside. But the hand...

We need a real team


you need a damn coach, the only good decision he ever made was to convince Thuram and Zidane to return for 2006
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
November 18 2009 23:12 GMT
#863
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28675 Posts
November 18 2009 23:12 GMT
#864
ya
in a world of football where coaches are way more likely to be sacked prematurely than too late, domenech still holding his job is amazing. not only has france performed worse than they should in every championship cept 2006, but he's crazy to boot.
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
November 18 2009 23:13 GMT
#865
Hahah, France really need to sort it out. Reminds me of England pre-Capello
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 18 2009 23:13 GMT
#866
On November 19 2009 08:12 zerglingsfolife wrote:
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT


Anelka was not diving dude. There was contact intentional or not, pen or not. It's not my decision, but he didnt dive.

And seriously? ANY TEAM/ANY PLAYER in the world would have acted in the same way.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
November 18 2009 23:21 GMT
#867
On November 19 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:12 zerglingsfolife wrote:
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT


Anelka was not diving dude. There was contact intentional or not, pen or not. It's not my decision, but he didnt dive.

And seriously? ANY TEAM/ANY PLAYER in the world without class would have acted in the same way.


Fixed it for you
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28675 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 23:23:43
November 18 2009 23:22 GMT
#868
ya henry looked sincerely shameful about the goal.. im not sure there's a single top player (you can certainly find some, but on the highest level? henry is known as one of the most honest players as it is, and his reputation doesnt get tarnished by this. ) in the world who would tell the referee about the handball in this situation, and i'm not sure it's a really conscious decision when he handballs, more like a reflex.

he'd be remembered as the most mannered player in the world if he did tell the referee, but he'd risk _knocking his country out of the world cup_. that's some pretty damn strong motivation there..
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 18 2009 23:23 GMT
#869
On November 19 2009 08:21 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:12 zerglingsfolife wrote:
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT


Anelka was not diving dude. There was contact intentional or not, pen or not. It's not my decision, but he didnt dive.

And seriously? ANY TEAM/ANY PLAYER in the world without class would have acted in the same way.


Fixed it for you


It's the damn World Cup. Anyone would have done it. There is no team/player in the world who would want to miss it.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
November 18 2009 23:27 GMT
#870
On November 19 2009 08:23 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:21 zerglingsfolife wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:12 zerglingsfolife wrote:
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT


Anelka was not diving dude. There was contact intentional or not, pen or not. It's not my decision, but he didnt dive.

And seriously? ANY TEAM/ANY PLAYER in the world without class would have acted in the same way.


Fixed it for you


It's the damn World Cup. Anyone would have done it. There is no team/player in the world who would want to miss it.


Yes, I am just so god damn bitter because I have to wait another 4 years to try to see Ireland qualify out of such a difficult group. Getting eliminated by a team I hate (France) on a bullshit nocall handball does not help. FIFA last minute seeding and bias for big teams does not help me either.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 18 2009 23:33 GMT
#871
On November 19 2009 08:27 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:23 SuperArc wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:21 zerglingsfolife wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:12 zerglingsfolife wrote:
FUCK YOU FRANCE AND HENRY YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT. DISGRACE TO THE FUCKING GAME.
[image loading]


GOD DAMNIT IRELAND IS GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANOTHER WORLD CUP BECAUSE OF THIS DISGRACE OF FRANCE. ANELKA DIVING TRYING TO GET A PEN AND NUMEROUS TIME WASTING AND FAKING INJURIES. FUCKING BULLSHIT


Anelka was not diving dude. There was contact intentional or not, pen or not. It's not my decision, but he didnt dive.

And seriously? ANY TEAM/ANY PLAYER in the world without class would have acted in the same way.


Fixed it for you


It's the damn World Cup. Anyone would have done it. There is no team/player in the world who would want to miss it.


Yes, I am just so god damn bitter because I have to wait another 4 years to try to see Ireland qualify out of such a difficult group. Getting eliminated by a team I hate (France) on a bullshit nocall handball does not help. FIFA last minute seeding and bias for big teams does not help me either.


Incidents like this make me wonder why FIFA still doesn't allow video refereeing.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 23:37:03
November 18 2009 23:36 GMT
#872
On November 19 2009 08:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ya henry looked sincerely shameful about the goal.. im not sure there's a single top player (you can certainly find some, but on the highest level? henry is known as one of the most honest players as it is, and his reputation doesnt get tarnished by this. ) in the world who would tell the referee about the handball in this situation, and i'm not sure it's a really conscious decision when he handballs, more like a reflex.

he'd be remembered as the most mannered player in the world if he did tell the referee, but he'd risk _knocking his country out of the world cup_. that's some pretty damn strong motivation there..


While Henry's assist was rotten and disheartening, and I don't really buy that it was a reflex or unconscious reaction, the onus in that situation is entirely on the referees. It's not for the players to police themselves.

It was just maddening because I felt like Ireland played a solid game, and certainly outplayed a French team that didn't even seem particularly concerned about winning. A dispassionate performance, to say the least, but such is life and there's no reason to stay upset about something that will never change.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
November 18 2009 23:42 GMT
#873
Hand of God, hand of Henry.
Definitely.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 23:43:44
November 18 2009 23:43 GMT
#874
On November 19 2009 08:36 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ya henry looked sincerely shameful about the goal.. im not sure there's a single top player (you can certainly find some, but on the highest level? henry is known as one of the most honest players as it is, and his reputation doesnt get tarnished by this. ) in the world who would tell the referee about the handball in this situation, and i'm not sure it's a really conscious decision when he handballs, more like a reflex.

he'd be remembered as the most mannered player in the world if he did tell the referee, but he'd risk _knocking his country out of the world cup_. that's some pretty damn strong motivation there..


While Henry's assist was rotten and disheartening, and I don't really buy that it was a reflex or unconscious reaction, the onus in that situation is entirely on the referees. It's not for the players to police themselves.

It was just maddening because I felt like Ireland played a solid game, and certainly outplayed a French team that didn't even seem particularly concerned about winning. A dispassionate performance, to say the least, but such is life and there's no reason to stay upset about something that will never change.


Irish supporters have every right to be upset because they were robbed, they wouldn't have a reason to complain if the goal was fair. Bad refereeing can be changed if video technology is introduced.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
November 18 2009 23:49 GMT
#875
On November 19 2009 08:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:36 BroOd wrote:
On November 19 2009 08:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ya henry looked sincerely shameful about the goal.. im not sure there's a single top player (you can certainly find some, but on the highest level? henry is known as one of the most honest players as it is, and his reputation doesnt get tarnished by this. ) in the world who would tell the referee about the handball in this situation, and i'm not sure it's a really conscious decision when he handballs, more like a reflex.

he'd be remembered as the most mannered player in the world if he did tell the referee, but he'd risk _knocking his country out of the world cup_. that's some pretty damn strong motivation there..


While Henry's assist was rotten and disheartening, and I don't really buy that it was a reflex or unconscious reaction, the onus in that situation is entirely on the referees. It's not for the players to police themselves.

It was just maddening because I felt like Ireland played a solid game, and certainly outplayed a French team that didn't even seem particularly concerned about winning. A dispassionate performance, to say the least, but such is life and there's no reason to stay upset about something that will never change.


Irish supporters have every right to be upset because they were robbed, they wouldn't have a reason to complain if the goal was fair. Bad refereeing can be changed if video technology is introduced.


I'm just trying to talk myself out of my annoyance.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 23:53:11
November 18 2009 23:52 GMT
#876
LOL FIFA and UEFA recaps of the game don't mention anything about the handball.


Five minutes later, France skipper Thierry Henry won the match for the hosts when his angled pass amid a goalmouth scramble was met by the head of Wiliam Gallas. The goal enabled France to qualify and avoid a repeat of their humiliating failure, at the hands of Bulgaria, to qualify for the 1994 FIFA World Cup finals.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1136804.html#gallas breaks irish hearts
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 18 2009 23:55 GMT
#877
the last WC Qualifiers games are like Old Trafford in extra time.

i somewhat knew that some referee "mistake" would happen.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 00:23:38
November 19 2009 00:22 GMT
#878
What an embarrassment for France. France is supposed to be one of the premier football nations in the world, and then they need this rubbish to get into the world cup. You HAVE to feel sorry for Ireland here, the way France advanced was just a disgrace. It's time for video replays, every other sport in the world is getting them, and in the context of goal/no goal, in/out, handball/no handball, and maybe offsides, it's simply unacceptable to know the mistake happened, and to not be able to fix it.

On the other hand, wonderful for Slovenia. And we all know France will draw some obscure African or Asian side, totally underestimate them, and flub out in the pools. So don't worry too much.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28675 Posts
November 19 2009 00:39 GMT
#879
On November 19 2009 08:36 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2009 08:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ya henry looked sincerely shameful about the goal.. im not sure there's a single top player (you can certainly find some, but on the highest level? henry is known as one of the most honest players as it is, and his reputation doesnt get tarnished by this. ) in the world who would tell the referee about the handball in this situation, and i'm not sure it's a really conscious decision when he handballs, more like a reflex.

he'd be remembered as the most mannered player in the world if he did tell the referee, but he'd risk _knocking his country out of the world cup_. that's some pretty damn strong motivation there..


While Henry's assist was rotten and disheartening, and I don't really buy that it was a reflex or unconscious reaction, the onus in that situation is entirely on the referees. It's not for the players to police themselves.


this is pretty much it. the thing is, all players constantly feel that there are loads of decisions that go against them. thus, when the referee wrongly decides something to their favour, it just feels like they're evening things out.

there are some examples of players policing themselves and telling the referee when they wrongly get favoured by the referee - fowler deliberately missing a penalty after telling the referee it wasnt a penalty and the referee not reverting his decision is one, and that's awesome. but I can't recall a single incident where a player did that when the goal was of actual importance.
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Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
November 19 2009 00:42 GMT
#880
Okay, the anelka penalty was a penalty and it wasn't called... and the henry pass was a handball and wasn't called. I'm not saying a bad call rules out another bad call, but more like, they were unlucky although they had the opportunity to finish the game MORE than twice and didn't. At the end, they weren't able to finish the French and lost.
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