EPT![[image loading]](http://www.gomtv.net/img/war3_newsimg_090510.jpg)
Trailer:
http://www.gomtv.net/gwi/vod/781
Players:
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Matchlist:
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Commentators:
![[image loading]](http://www.gomtv.net/img/war3_newsimg_090510_1.jpg)
Save your Warcraft 3 hatred/trolling for another thread.
[War3] GomTV World Invitational
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
Trailer: http://www.gomtv.net/gwi/vod/781 Players: Matchlist: Commentators: Save your Warcraft 3 hatred/trolling for another thread. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Ziph
Netherlands970 Posts
Rotterdam Commentating! WoooooT Holland Gooooo World ownagee | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
I'm cheering for Grubby just because he's ORC!!! and orcs are awesome. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 02 2009 02:51 freelander wrote: It sounds funny that Norton is the sponsor rofl yeah i know nothing about wc3 lol but this is prett cool i guess go chinese players! | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
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Shadrik
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
On June 02 2009 02:51 freelander wrote: It sounds funny that Norton is the sponsor Yea but it is kind of fitting because the WC3L last week had bad playing conditions due to the computers having viruses/malware and slowing everything down. | ||
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Just because WCG is precisely the tournament he has never won  | ||
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roflMe
United States40 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
On June 04 2009 02:35 roflMe wrote: wc3 not that fun to watch "Save your Warcraft 3 hatred/trolling for another thread." I'm going to watch this, I've been meaning to get into W3 for a while, but I predict that Moon will sweep the board, there is a reason why he is called the 5th race right? I'm also glad at the commentary line up, the WoW the named series was impenetrable from that respect. | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Did ToD retire? 'coz it seems I only catch him in commentaries now | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
This will be cool indeed ! | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
The final especially was really close and more exciting than the Starcraft. This should be great | ||
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Ry-Masta-T
United States478 Posts
tod should be good too Excited for this! Might even get up at 6am to watch it live :D | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
rotterdam ftw! GOGO UNDEAD | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
On June 04 2009 01:55 Chill wrote: I have no idea about War3, which is exactly why I'm going to watch this. Hope I can learn a lot quickly from the commentary. Yea I'm sure you will learn lots. These two commentators are highly qualified, you should not be disappointed. On June 04 2009 02:50 myrmidon2537 wrote: Did ToD retire? 'coz it seems I only catch him in commentaries now Yea ToD finally called it quits recently. He was still a top player but a lot of War3 teams were disappearing/cutting players and he was without a team for quite some time before he decided to stop playing. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
GO GRUBBY | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
looking forward to the games! Rooting for FoV, he used to be my idol back when I played wc3. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 04 2009 02:41 Kerotan wrote: "Save your Warcraft 3 hatred/trolling for another thread." I'm going to watch this, I've been meaning to get into W3 for a while, but I predict that Moon will sweep the board, there is a reason why he is called the 5th race right? I'm also glad at the commentary line up, the WoW the named series was impenetrable from that respect. Moon has not been doing well at ALL lately. | ||
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DownMaxX
Canada1311 Posts
Sky vs. Moon finals plz! | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
I like that they invited 2 from each race! | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
Go Grubby PS: Does anyone know what happened to Space? That might not be the right name, but there was a Korean UD player with some kind of degenerative muscle disorder, I think. I always had to root hard for that guy--even in War3, it is amazing to do as well as he did without being able to so much as use ctrl groups. | ||
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~_~
Canada239 Posts
On June 04 2009 04:32 snowbird wrote: Wow, great stuff looking forward to the games! Rooting for FoV, he used to be my idol back when I played wc3. i like fov but he cant beat orc t.t edit: and space still plays. and yeah hes the one with the muscle disorder. | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
Tough choices between Sky, Grubby and Lyn to take it. FoV's Orc weakness will probably be his downfall against the two best Orcs in the world. I had a blast watching War3 at Blizzcon (sorry, but the Lyn/Lucifron final was more intense [and longer] than the sAviOr/NaDa final). | ||
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ixion
Sweden81 Posts
I cheer for Sky! Hope to see some great games tomorrow. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 04 2009 04:41 FrozenArbiter wrote: Moon has not been doing well at ALL lately. NElfs in general haven't been doing well. Although there have been more than a few wtf moments on Moon's part. If he can get past Lyn, I think he'll do well. Grubby is going to choke, quite honestly I think Lyn will take it if he's playing well as the humans on this board have been pretty inconsistent the last month. | ||
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Nanoo
229 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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ixion
Sweden81 Posts
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geno
United States1404 Posts
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
oh, its a online tournament | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17421 Posts
On June 04 2009 22:10 Patrio wrote: I have never seen a pro undead player b4 Wow... Anyway FoV and TeD hwaiting! | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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Loverman
Romania266 Posts
On June 04 2009 22:38 azndsh wrote: can someone explain how NE loses to UD 2 base to 1 like that? Fov had better units and heroes and picked the better fights. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 04 2009 22:38 azndsh wrote: can someone explain how NE loses to UD 2 base to 1 like that? UD just banked at 50 food so his gold income wasn't slowed down by low upkeep. While the NE pretty much has to break upkeep straight away otherwise they cannot compete on equal food. Both had around 80 food when they fought, so it was equal in terms of army. Then HoT was in a poor position and his dryad got raped by the wagons. | ||
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Loverman
Romania266 Posts
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 04 2009 23:24 Gliche wrote: hmm is this live or are these replays? LIve as far as I know. Observers in Wc3 have the same view privileges as a typical SC replay. | ||
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ZZoMa
United States13 Posts
 edit: Just re-read and it sounds like after 3 days they become available to everyone else, is that right? Also, do they do this for the starcraft vods too and I just don't notice it? | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
On June 05 2009 04:02 NeoIllusions wrote: Go Grubby's girlfriend! Fixed. | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
I agree with this, Also, can't wait for vods to be up~ | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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OhNoItsTheMunch
United States96 Posts
My life for Aiur... I mean Nerzhul | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
That really blows that they face each other in the group round. But at least there isn't any orc in the group. edit- actually what the fuck, those groups are fucked. There are human/elf in each group but double UD and double Orc. | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On June 05 2009 07:43 CharlieMurphy wrote: Fov and Ted (Undead) Fighting!!~ That really blows that they face each other in the group round. But at least there isn't any orc in the group. edit- actually what the fuck, those groups are fucked. There are human/elf in each group but double UD and double Orc. I really wonder whether or not that was intentional, as we all know that Undead players tend to have quite a bit of trouble with Orcs. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the organizers purposely made the groups this way in an attempt to improve the balance and variety of the tournament. If it wasn't intentional, it seems like a pretty odd coincidence, unless the groups were randomly drawn. Either way, it definitely works in TeD and FoV's favor for the obvious reason that you stated in your second sentence. I'd be willing to bet that they're both pretty happy that they don't have to tangle with Grubby or Lyn early on. If they get lucky, one of them may get eliminated (or both if they're really lucky), but I would personally be very surprised if Lyn at least didn't make it through the group stage. Seems like a pretty nice tournament over all, and it's definitely great to have two experienced players shoutcasting the event. In my opinion this is very very important, maybe even more so than in StarCraft (don't hold me to that  ), simply because so many important aspects of the game are subtle and not visible to the average player. Experienced players like ToD and Rotterdam are able to bring these subtleties to the attention of the viewers and hopefully enable them to appreciate the game more and possibly even learn something new. It would be nice if more tournaments had experienced players help with the shoutcasting. | ||
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
but he is one of the strongest wc3 of all time love watch him play and gogo sky n lyn! | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 05 2009 06:06 Carnac wrote: so this is thursdays & saturdays @ 3 PM CET? Yup. Grubby VS Moon and Lyn VS InFi this Saturday. On June 05 2009 09:04 Kuja900 wrote: how much prize money is at stake? 1. 4,800 USD 2. 2,400 USD 3. 800 USD | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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oneill
Philippines278 Posts
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
On June 06 2009 14:47 lokiM wrote: why can't I view the VODs? does this shit really require premium? or can you only watch it live w/o buying premium I believe it'll be open to the general public (non-premium) users after a few days. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On June 06 2009 15:34 oneill wrote: the Tod commentator has alot of credentials. Why isnt he in the tourney? Is he retired? ToD retired earlier this year. | ||
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Mista_Masta
Netherlands557 Posts
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Splunge
Germany925 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
Grubby vs Moon (Ancient Isle - Melting Valley - Turtle Rock) Lyn vs Infi (Melting Valley - Twisted Meadows - Turtle Rock) | ||
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Kim_Hyun_Han
706 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
Games are on in half an hour! http://www.gomtv.net/gwi/live/ | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
I think you can use VLC though, let me see if I can get it to work. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
On June 06 2009 21:50 Ingenol wrote: Sorry for double post, do I actually need the GOM Player to watch live or can one use VLC? VLC Link: http://65.49.46.29:8901/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&impurl=0&cid=9999&title=NortonAntiVirusGOMtvWorldInvitational2009'; | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Gotta go with my Human players, pulling for SKY in this tourney. | ||
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Sonu
Canada577 Posts
anyway i wanna see Grubby... cuz imo he is the ret of sc: a complete baller. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Grubby > Moon G1 | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On June 06 2009 23:00 GTR wrote: too many commercials imo It's only this bad because Moon is having issues connecting to a US host. I'm pinging him at like 234ms.. They want to use a USA host because they don't want Grubby to have the advantage of a European host... Kinda silly, but who knows. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 06 2009 23:02 Torenhire wrote: It's only this bad because Moon is having issues connecting to a US host. I'm pinging him at like 234ms.. They want to use a USA host because they don't want Grubby to have the advantage of a European host... Kinda silly, but who knows. You can't play Korea VS NL on a EU host. US hosts are normally fine, I dunno what the problem is this time. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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Tom Phoenix
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On June 06 2009 22:59 Sonu wrote: i iwsh Norton would sponser sc tourneys... oh well You know, I find it ironic that StarCraft progaming events had more widely known sponsors in the past then they do now. I mean, sure, companies like Bacchus and Batoo are probably well-known companies in South Korea. However, compare that to some of the past sponsors (Panasonic, Olympus, Gillette, Snickers, Pringles...) and they pale in comparison. EDIT: Anyway, this is the first time I can get to see WarCraft III with professional commentary. As such, I am going to see it once the Live block is removed. | ||
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Phearlock
Norway400 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
And I love the title song they have for the tourney.  | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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Shadrik
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
go go Grubbster ! | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17421 Posts
What was that Blizzard ad? Some WoW stuff? | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17421 Posts
Walking plants ftw! Reminds me very much of: http://www.popcap.com/extras/pvz/ | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
Tod I think, "what is this bear doing? it is fearless just like hot!" "he can run around, relax, play some dota" | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
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Drium
United States888 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
The heroes all have a few abilities or some sort of aura that strengthens their own units and most units from Tier 2 and up have at least 1 ability. They explain a lot in the commentary though and talk about whats typical and what is surprising, definitely listen closely if you are having trouble figuring out whats going on. | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
Last night's matches were both pretty interesting. They were definitely upsets from what I had expected, and they changed around my predictions for the group a bit. + Show Spoiler + Sky can no longer advance no matter what, and FoV automatically advances. Now the winner of TeD vs Hot moves on, while Sky vs FoV is more or less just for honor. I was kinda expecting Hot to be the one that gets eliminated right away, and TeD to be the sure bet to move on. I'd still place my money on TeD beating Hot though. Not as excited about Grubby vs Lyn tomorrow, but I think Moon vs Infi should be really entertaining if both players are performing well. | ||
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I was happy with FoV advancing, he's actually my favorite player. I was also happy with HoT, but just because I hate Sky. | ||
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
Hope for some nice games | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
especially Moon vs Infi game 1 --> full of epicness ;] also Grubby vs Lyn game 1 was good | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
On June 14 2009 03:42 CharlieMurphy wrote: So are there any vods up yet? There are VODs from previous days, but the ones from this morning won't come out for another 3 days unless you're a premium subscriber. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On June 14 2009 07:02 ShivaN wrote: There are VODs from previous days, but the ones from this morning won't come out for another 3 days unless you're a premium subscriber. I'll look for the pack when its over. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
So far I know Week 1: + Show Spoiler + Grubby > Moon (2-1) FoV > HoT (2-0) TeD > Sky (2-0) Infi > Lyn (2-1) Week 2: + Show Spoiler + HoT > Sky (2-1) FoV > TeD (2-1) Grubby > Lyn (2-0) Moon > Infi (2-1) Correct me if I'm wrong on any of it. | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On June 04 2009 02:27 FrozenArbiter wrote: Lol Moon's description is so funny. Just because WCG is precisely the tournament he has never won really? i guess thats right lol. Still hes kickass. go night elfs! | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 18 2009 23:02 inReacH wrote: Coming from someone who has seen every one of tasteless' Gom casts, these guys are the most entertaining casters right now.. by a lot.. Agreed. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Culture
Canada488 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 18 2009 23:02 inReacH wrote: Coming from someone who has seen every one of tasteless' Gom casts, these guys are the most entertaining casters right now.. by a lot.. I have to agree completely. I am not a huge War3 fan but ToD and Rotterdam not only both know what they are talking about... especially ToD... but they are both hilarious when they want to be. It's seriously one of the best commentating I have had the pleasure of listening to. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
ToD and his rage against imba blademasters and demonhunters cracks me up xD | ||
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Splunge
Germany925 Posts
Grubby vs Infi Moon vs Lyn | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 20 2009 18:35 iCCup.deL wrote: Yeah for sure ToD and RotterdaM ensure the GOMtv WC3 tourneys have much more appeal than any others, even when you are into WC3. ToD and his rage against imba blademasters and demonhunters cracks me up xD ToD's just more vocal about it, honestly though, BMs are really too good. DH it doesn't matter as much since NE tier 1 and tier 2 doesn't have very meaty units and have to manage Moon Well mana. But BMs aren't hard to creep, Grunts are good through out, Tier 2 Spirit Link+Shadow Hunter is like #fuckhardtokill. It's just too easy to focus down a unit/hero with Hex+BM, even easier if BM chain crits or lands a lightning orb proc. | ||
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Hipinretku
Finland88 Posts
There were some vlc links on some gom sc leagues but i dont know where did those come from. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 16 2009 17:04 ArC_man wrote: Can the op update the results weekly please? I haven't really been keeping up with the results and WCReplays doesn't have a nice R&S post for this tournament. I think I've been too spoiled by TL =(. So far I know Week 1: + Show Spoiler + Grubby > Moon (2-1) FoV > HoT (2-0) TeD > Sky (2-0) Infi > Lyn (2-1) Week 2: + Show Spoiler + HoT > Sky (2-1) FoV > TeD (2-1) Grubby > Lyn (2-0) Moon > Infi (2-1) Correct me if I'm wrong on any of it. Your results are right. Just on WCR we don't have the ability to edit posts after like 24 hours which sucks. On June 20 2009 22:08 Judicator wrote: ToD's just more vocal about it, honestly though, BMs are really too good. DH it doesn't matter as much since NE tier 1 and tier 2 doesn't have very meaty units and have to manage Moon Well mana. But BMs aren't hard to creep, Grunts are good through out, Tier 2 Spirit Link+Shadow Hunter is like #fuckhardtokill. It's just too easy to focus down a unit/hero with Hex+BM, even easier if BM chain crits or lands a lightning orb proc. Problem with BM is his insane DPS. Plus with ww you can't surround him on anything early game. Live now! | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Moon versus Lyn to start. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On June 20 2009 22:25 keV. wrote: God these guys are the best fucking commentators ever... Hilarious Indeed. Especially ToD, such a natural. Best thing about GoM is I can have it fullscreen on one monitor and post on TL on my 2nd monitor. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
Rotterdam: "Yeh... I know I've seen that before" Hahaha, ToD got raped and Moon started building Human heroes on Twisted Meadows during WEG IIRC. | ||
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
I admire the respect they have for each other. | ||
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Avius
Iraq1796 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On June 20 2009 23:35 Avius wrote: is this live atm? yes Grubby vs Infi about to start | ||
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 20 2009 23:37 Ingenol wrote: I woke up about 20 minutes late for the start and they were on Moon vs. Lyn, but the schedule says Grubby vs. Infi is Game 1. Did they somehow already play the whole series in 20 minutes before I tuned in? Grubby VS InFi was postponed till after Moon VS Lyn due to hosting problems. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On June 20 2009 23:39 Goshawk. wrote: Grubby VS InFi was postponed till after Moon VS Lyn due to hosting problems. Excellent. Thank you! | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On June 20 2009 23:40 GGQ wrote: Wait so Moon vs Lyn is over? Who won? Moon > Lyn 2-0. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5449 Posts
On June 20 2009 22:45 GTR wrote: ToD: "When Moon is this ahead, he does something crazy, like build his opponent's heroes" Rotterdam: "Yeh... I know I've seen that before" Hahaha, ToD got raped and Moon started building Human heroes on Twisted Meadows during WEG IIRC. Haha he said that? Man, I gotta catch up and watch all these VODs... heard nothing but good things. | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
Where the heck is ToD and Fly100? Edit; oh wait tod IS commentating lol why isn't fly100 playing, or remind, or th000, im pretty sure they all doing better than HoT atm | ||
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520
United States2822 Posts
On June 21 2009 01:43 peidongyang wrote: This looks intense, but may I ask: Where the heck is ToD and Fly100? Edit; oh wait tod IS commentating lol why isn't fly100 playing, or remind, or th000, im pretty sure they all doing better than HoT atm Given the current stats I think HoT's doing just fine. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 21 2009 01:43 peidongyang wrote: This looks intense, but may I ask: Where the heck is ToD and Fly100? Edit; oh wait tod IS commentating lol why isn't fly100 playing, or remind, or th000, im pretty sure they all doing better than HoT atm Fly100 is the War3 equivalent of F91, aggressive as hell with his T2 in not always the best situations. The Chinese scene is so convoluted with so many quality (and at times inconsistent) players. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
1. Are any of the broadcasters or players in S. Korea when the games go on? 2. Who's the favorite to win this tournament? 3. Of the two broadcasters, who's the "main" commentator and who's the "color" commentator? I just want to say that as a Starcraft fan who doesn't have a strong interest in WC3, it's been very entertaining to watch especially with two knowledgeable broadcasters. They're knowledge in WC3 is so ridiculously detailed that it's hard to follow, but their passion for the game makes the broadcast so fun to watch. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
- What would you do in this situation? - Say imba and quit | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11304 Posts
On June 21 2009 06:39 broz0rs wrote: I have a few questions 1. Are any of the broadcasters or players in S. Korea when the games go on? 2. Who's the favorite to win this tournament? 3. Of the two broadcasters, who's the "main" commentator and who's the "color" commentator? I just want to say that as a Starcraft fan who doesn't have a strong interest in WC3, it's been very entertaining to watch especially with two knowledgeable broadcasters. They're knowledge in WC3 is so ridiculously detailed that it's hard to follow, but their passion for the game makes the broadcast so fun to watch. 1. The commentators are in S.Korea, in the GOM Studio, right? 2. Group stage is almost through, so favorites are obviously those who are qualified already. From FoV and TeD in gr 1, I would see TeD as the more promising, as he has an absolutely *sick* Undead vs. Orc matchup (usually that is the one most blamed for imbalance). So my overall favourite would be TeD. 3. I'd say ToD is the main commentator and Rotterdam not really "colour", but more or less "sidekick", as he is the younger player and by far less successful in his career. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
I'd not agree with TeD because while his UDvORC is very strong he seems to struggle against Grubby in my experience, but I may be out of touch. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 21 2009 01:43 peidongyang wrote: This looks intense, but may I ask: Where the heck is ToD and Fly100? Edit; oh wait tod IS commentating lol why isn't fly100 playing, or remind, or th000, im pretty sure they all doing better than HoT atm Yer, I'm sure those players are much better than HoT atm, and TH is arguably the best player in the world atm. But, I think it was more about racial/country balance and they wanted the 2 most famous EU players. TH wasn't playing that well when the invites were sent out too. On June 21 2009 20:25 LuckyOne wrote: links to vods? Normal place: http://www.gomtv.net/gwi/vod/ On June 21 2009 06:39 broz0rs wrote: I have a few questions 1. Are any of the broadcasters or players in S. Korea when the games go on? 2. Who's the favorite to win this tournament? 3. Of the two broadcasters, who's the "main" commentator and who's the "color" commentator? I just want to say that as a Starcraft fan who doesn't have a strong interest in WC3, it's been very entertaining to watch especially with two knowledgeable broadcasters. They're knowledge in WC3 is so ridiculously detailed that it's hard to follow, but their passion for the game makes the broadcast so fun to watch. 1. All the S.Korean players are in SKorea obviously, but not in the studio. The casters are in the studio, ToD lives in Korea now and Rotter is over there for the cast. 2. I would say Grubby, he's looking really good online recently and he's the only orc left. (xD) 3. ToD. But I noticed Rotter was doing a lot of the casting yesterday. Yer, I was thinking while watching that I thought the casting might have been quite hard to follow for people who haven't played much WC3. But from feedback I guess that's what people want to see. TeD's Orc VS UD is very good, and plus he's always coming up with the new things in a lot of UD matchups. But, I would still say the orc is gonna be the favourite. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
Whatever happened to Lucifer, Susiria, Soccer etc (basically ex-MYM). | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Also, I would say the commentators ToD and RotterdaM are equal, as they both contribute a lot to the calling, discussion and humour, however ToD has cast a GOM tourney before as well as been living in Korea for a while and so has the experience under his belt. | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
But he's not here I remember 1 game where the commentators were really excited. Th000 vs FoV on Turtle Rock, forgot when. Basically during the final clash Th000 ran his low hp hero around and evaded several coils which would kill, with Paladin shield (forgot the name) and the super Staff of Sanctuary passing, which is not as easy as it looks since your heroes need to be close by. They were screaming BI NAN!! BI NAN YA!! Staff of Sanctuary is literally translated into "evade disaster" Of course it is never comparable to SC screaming. But that was memorable for me. I remembered that ToD was kinda famous for being emo. If you think Orc is imba, why not just change to orc? i never get these WC3 people. As for me, switched whenever i think another race is better and i usually end up realising it's all balanced How did Moon make human heroes? | ||
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United States2822 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 21 2009 23:14 JieXian wrote: I remembered that ToD was kinda famous for being emo. If you think Orc is imba, why not just change to orc? i never get these WC3 people. As for me, switched whenever i think another race is better and i usually end up realising it's all balanced How did Moon make human heroes? Orc mirror isn't particularly great to play and besides what fun is it changing race anyway? Moon made a Dark Ranger, whose ultimate allows you to take control of a opponents unit. Link to the game: (Other parts are on youtube) On June 22 2009 03:06 anch wrote: R&S please, who made out of the group? + Show Spoiler + Group A: 1. TeD 2:1 2. FoV 2:1 3. Sky 1:2 4. HoT 1:2 Top two go through. TeD is first on map score. Group B to still be decided, though Moon is definitely through. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 21 2009 23:14 JieXian wrote: I remembered that ToD was kinda famous for being emo. If you think Orc is imba, why not just change to orc? i never get these WC3 people. As for me, switched whenever i think another race is better and i usually end up realising it's all balanced How did Moon make human heroes? No, like I said before, there is no reliable counter to the RNG, BM's crits are stupid as hell+the wide damage range on him makes it hard for you to properly react especially if it occurs at bad times in a team fight. The Orc player can just let the BM loose on whatever hero for a few seconds coming out of Windwalk, micro his troops, and then respond accordingly, add in whatever the t2 hero is, TC/SH, and the spiritwalkers, its stupid easy to score a quick kill on any unit if you are lucky enough. The only thing that other players playing against the Orc have is that they know what strategy is coming, its literally the same shit (unit composition) for almost all MUs. But all of that means shit when the BM crits your hero twice (on the upper end of his damage range + backstab damage) and force a TP despite you having the better positioning. And ToD's been on the receiving end of that bad luck one too many times. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
i knew Sky was hopeless since he lost 2 matches, (like OSL ro16) | ||
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
On June 22 2009 07:39 Judicator wrote: No, like I said before, there is no reliable counter to the RNG, BM's crits are stupid as hell+the wide damage range on him makes it hard for you to properly react especially if it occurs at bad times in a team fight. The Orc player can just let the BM loose on whatever hero for a few seconds coming out of Windwalk, micro his troops, and then respond accordingly, add in whatever the t2 hero is, TC/SH, and the spiritwalkers, its stupid easy to score a quick kill on any unit if you are lucky enough. The only thing that other players playing against the Orc have is that they know what strategy is coming, its literally the same shit (unit composition) for almost all MUs. But all of that means shit when the BM crits your hero twice (on the upper end of his damage range + backstab damage) and force a TP despite you having the better positioning. And ToD's been on the receiving end of that bad luck one too many times. You do know that BM is a hero you can easily nuke and kill? I mean... I won't lie, I've seen a Blademaster (I forgot who did this) triple crit and kill a DK (all the crits were 300 dmg each but this blademaster had tons of + atk). | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On June 22 2009 07:39 Judicator wrote: No, like I said before, there is no reliable counter to the RNG, BM's crits are stupid as hell+the wide damage range on him makes it hard for you to properly react especially if it occurs at bad times in a team fight. The Orc player can just let the BM loose on whatever hero for a few seconds coming out of Windwalk, micro his troops, and then respond accordingly, add in whatever the t2 hero is, TC/SH, and the spiritwalkers, its stupid easy to score a quick kill on any unit if you are lucky enough. The only thing that other players playing against the Orc have is that they know what strategy is coming, its literally the same shit (unit composition) for almost all MUs. But all of that means shit when the BM crits your hero twice (on the upper end of his damage range + backstab damage) and force a TP despite you having the better positioning. And ToD's been on the receiving end of that bad luck one too many times. You don't get it. If you think orc is so imba? Why not use the imba race and try to gain an advantage? Because there isn't one to gain. I've been playing for 3 years, though just casually. Though i am not really good, but i definitely think I do know more than you, if you seriously think that ORC is imba. Classic UD have Coil + Nova - a huge nuke, which can finish off Heroes at about 1/3 hp (generalizing). Classic Human vs Orc style if they use AM + Beastmaster have insane amounts of summons which they usually use for tower rushing, or a 5 second stun from MK (but of course the stun can be evaded by the BM's ww) Classic NE VS ORC uses DH + Beastmaster. Dh burns the mana from and TC or SH and tanks and fights equally well with the BM and the naga slows stuff Moreover, NE and HU have Staff, which can instantly save units. Tell me it's not balanced now. But by classic, i mean the way it was usually played some time ago Oh ya. Thanks, i forgot about charm .. i have only seen charm used on bigger units and i totally forgot about it. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
it used to be a pretty favorable undead matchup before the batrider/destro changes, but since then its been downhill for sure. as far as orc vs ne or orc vs hu, i think most people would tell you they are about even today, and mostly dependent on the maps they are played on. ted is one of the few undeads in the world that can beat orcs with his incredible timing and micro, but against lyn or grubby i would still call him an underdog, especially if its bo5. | ||
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Romania3955 Posts
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
moon vs infi fov vs ted best series so far | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 22 2009 14:01 JieXian wrote: You don't get it. If you think orc is so imba? Why not use the imba race and try to gain an advantage? Because there isn't one to gain. I've been playing for 3 years, though just casually. Though i am not really good, but i definitely think I do know more than you, if you seriously think that ORC is imba. Classic UD have Coil + Nova - a huge nuke, which can finish off Heroes at about 1/3 hp (generalizing). Classic Human vs Orc style if they use AM + Beastmaster have insane amounts of summons which they usually use for tower rushing, or a 5 second stun from MK (but of course the stun can be evaded by the BM's ww) Classic NE VS ORC uses DH + Beastmaster. Dh burns the mana from and TC or SH and tanks and fights equally well with the BM and the naga slows stuff Moreover, NE and HU have Staff, which can instantly save units. Tell me it's not balanced now. But by classic, i mean the way it was usually played some time ago Oh ya. Thanks, i forgot about charm .. i have only seen charm used on bigger units and i totally forgot about it. You can rant your life away but Orc is a bit on the imbalance. They were the only race that could keep up with NE during the NE reign for a reason. In general though it's not really the Orc itself that's imbalanced, it's the damn blademaster. The blademaster just can be too powerful during times of RNG and completely obliterate an enemy hero and force you to TP out of situation you sure as hell should have won. Then if you're UD you should just quit versus Orc anyway | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4131 Posts
Since I enjoy watching warcraft and also played a bit to the extend that I know the units specifics and tech trees, however I cannot asses the imbalances so much, so can someone explain to me why Undeads are considered so much at disadvantage against Orcs? I mean undeads have good ground units as spiders&abominations, they can fight at the air with gargs and wirms/destroyers, their heroes are as good as versus any other race's heroes (they can coil/nova) , blademaster creeps them as much as he does any other heroes, so I cannot understand what makes them so behind? | ||
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
If you want to talk about IMBA go watch a WoW competition 3v3 arena teams (like 90% run RPM). | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On June 22 2009 16:44 FirstBorn wrote: Okay, any war3 fans could recommend me some good games in this torunament ? I don't really a lot of time on my hands but I'm always willing to check out some war3 matches. I enjoyed Grubby VS Lyn, the longest games are the ones esla_sol posted pretty much. About WC3 balance: Balance really sucks to discuss frankly. If you want to see yourself if Orc is strong go look at the major tournament results since 1.22. On June 22 2009 12:09 JudgeMathis wrote: You do know that BM is a hero you can easily nuke and kill? I mean... I won't lie, I've seen a Blademaster (I forgot who did this) triple crit and kill a DK (all the crits were 300 dmg each but this blademaster had tons of + atk). Thinking of that? xD On June 22 2009 21:57 JudgeMathis wrote: I love these UD < Orc comments. It's obvious that if you can't beat something than its certainly imba! There's a lot of Undeads that have taken games from Lyn, Grubby, and any respectable orc you want to name (it's not an uphill battle). If you want to talk about IMBA go watch a WoW competition 3v3 arena teams (like 90% run RPM). Many WC3 players recognise the worst mu in the game is Orc UD. Of course UD players still win, they are some very skilled UDs (TeD and FoV) out there. Hopefully, TeD can keep up his form VS Orc after he beat Fly 2:0 in IEF and start winning some tournaments since they have good matchups vs elf and Hu. On June 22 2009 21:38 M2 wrote: What makes undead vs orc imba? Since I enjoy watching warcraft and also played a bit to the extend that I know the units specifics and tech trees, however I cannot asses the imbalances so much, so can someone explain to me why Undeads are considered so much at disadvantage against Orcs? I mean undeads have good ground units as spiders&abominations, they can fight at the air with gargs and wirms/destroyers, their heroes are as good as versus any other race's heroes (they can coil/nova) , blademaster creeps them as much as he does any other heroes, so I cannot understand what makes them so behind? For a number of reasons. Firstly, the BM can easily harass and get the DK low on hp or mana and simply salve back up whereas the UD has no tier 1 healing. Then later on BM with orb is strong, as is chain heal on the SH and TC level 3/5 stomp is insane. Aboms aren't worth it, they just get eaten by kodos frankly. Fiends are good, but if the UD hasn't got frost armour. Air is countered by BMOrb + Troll beserkers or by bats. My post now sounds like there's nothing UD can do. >_> But, UDs can dooo stuff. Frost armour and nuke is powerful. /confusing imbalance post | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 22 2009 21:57 JudgeMathis wrote: I love these UD < Orc comments. It's obvious that if you can't beat something than its certainly imba! There's a lot of Undeads that have taken games from Lyn, Grubby, and any respectable orc you want to name (it's not an uphill battle). If you want to talk about IMBA go watch a WoW competition 3v3 arena teams (like 90% run RPM). Just because some players can win UD < Orc doesn't mean it's balanced sir. People used to be able to take games off the former overpowered NE but that didn't take away from the fact that NE was overpowered. Most if not all pros agree that Orc is UD's worst matchup and it's the worst stilted matchup in the entire game for a reason. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Games delayed to 2nd July. : ( | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 22 2009 14:01 JieXian wrote: You don't get it. If you think orc is so imba? Why not use the imba race and try to gain an advantage? Because there isn't one to gain. I've been playing for 3 years, though just casually. Though i am not really good, but i definitely think I do know more than you, if you seriously think that ORC is imba. Classic UD have Coil + Nova - a huge nuke, which can finish off Heroes at about 1/3 hp (generalizing). Classic Human vs Orc style if they use AM + Beastmaster have insane amounts of summons which they usually use for tower rushing, or a 5 second stun from MK (but of course the stun can be evaded by the BM's ww) Classic NE VS ORC uses DH + Beastmaster. Dh burns the mana from and TC or SH and tanks and fights equally well with the BM and the naga slows stuff Moreover, NE and HU have Staff, which can instantly save units. Tell me it's not balanced now. But by classic, i mean the way it was usually played some time ago Oh ya. Thanks, i forgot about charm .. i have only seen charm used on bigger units and i totally forgot about it. You are missing my point, you can predict and play against Staff, you can play against activated spells, you can play against buffs and units. You can't consistently play against the randomness of crit. All those instances you listed? You can plan against, you can play accordingly. My point isn't Orc is imba, its that if the Blademaster lands chain crits, the fight shifts in the Orc's favor very very quickly, its not like the Orc player pulled some super micro. Name another skill or hero in the game at levels 2-4 that can constantly pose a major offensive threat with requiring only the most basic skills as a War3 player at no cost to the hero. Right now Orc is imba because even if you plan right, play right, it means shit if the BM gets lucky, that's the problem, when ToD rages at the BM he literally means just the BM, and its just not ToD that recognizes the problem with BM, almost ever pro War3 player will say something about the BM, alot of them were surprised when 1.23 came out and no BM nerfs, Orc players included. So again, you're misunderstanding the gripe of the players, the unpredictability of the BM makes it annoying and it's highlighted in Orc mirrors where it literally boils down to who gets more crits at certain moments. The Orc race is fine, the BM is the problem. And your original question is up to the player, I mean you can ask why Yellow never switched races (or even playstyles for that matter) after finishing second every time. | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
Here is why they are: Scroll of Speed Ensnare Spirit Link Healing Wave Orb of Lightning (not used too much because they don't need it to be insanely imba, but some recent orcs have been using it) Items benefitting the Blademaster (claws, gloves, circlet, agility) Now these aren't imba by themselves, but when you combine them with a Blademaster as first hero it is just total destruction. Blademaster is a scout, harasser, creep jacker, and a main damage dealer in an army. How does that even work? One hero performs all the functions of a full set of units for any other race. And he can buy healing salves and just heal himself up at any point should he take some damage and come right back to be a pest. Something needs to be done about it, but I don't think it will. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Though i haven't been playing since after the new patch. I know that's when the other races are nerfed, besides orc. That was when Human turtles and NE prevailed i think. Ok, maybe things that i'm not aware of have changed since then. Still, i know orcs don't go BM everytime, sometimes they go FS. There has to be a reason. This is coming from someone who changed from Human to UD to Orc except NE throughout a few years. I changed to Orc after the new patch, i admit :D | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On June 24 2009 14:03 JieXian wrote: Oh you're only talking about crits. Nevermind then, i'm not a fan of RNG too, esp like WoW. Though i haven't been playing since after the new patch. I know that's when the other races are nerfed, besides orc. That was when Human turtles and NE prevailed i think. Ok, maybe things that i'm not aware of have changed since then. Still, i know orcs don't go BM everytime, sometimes they go FS. There has to be a reason. This is coming from someone who changed from Human to UD to Orc except NE throughout a few years. I changed to Orc after the new patch, i admit :D Accordingly, on TM FS is stronger. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 24 2009 14:03 JieXian wrote: Oh you're only talking about crits. Nevermind then, i'm not a fan of RNG too, esp like WoW. Though i haven't been playing since after the new patch. I know that's when the other races are nerfed, besides orc. That was when Human turtles and NE prevailed i think. Ok, maybe things that i'm not aware of have changed since then. Still, i know orcs don't go BM everytime, sometimes they go FS. There has to be a reason. This is coming from someone who changed from Human to UD to Orc except NE throughout a few years. I changed to Orc after the new patch, i admit :D That FS they use? To harass the living crap out of Humans on maps where the militia creeping is harder and the HU is using an AM. But it rarely works out that well since those maps usually includes a merc camp with trolls, and good building placement+1 Arcane stomps any base harass. Basically you get better tier 1 pressure and if you don't get it then the HU gets to T2 caster and just rapes your army with a now useless hero in FS. | ||
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
You've listed a bunch of specific unit/micro examples, but the point is that nothing is dangerous by itself. The idea is that certain things are blocked or controlled by the entire game flow. The problem is that there are a number of situations where BM becomes too dominant with no gameplay counter. His power early game doesn't diminish late game - so any advantage that he rolls early on is going to be compounded mid and late game. Again, this is not an issue in itself, but combined with how the matchups and maps play out, it becomes a large issue. | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
source: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/23182-Wotlk_uses_Warcraft_3_codes_for_item_drop_rate i wouldnt call the blademaster imba, but the reason why hes such a dangerous hero is because of how he influences game flow. it is very easy for orc to gain an advantage in the early game, whether through creep jacks or just pressure in general. because of raiders, shadow hunter, and link, orc essentially controls the map until an undead hits tier 3. little advantages he got in the early game will translate big in the mid game, and it compounds from there. to answer another person's question about why you see people going FS at times, there are a few reasons: 1. you are against human, and you expect a tower rush (turtle rock especially). later in the game hu also have slow which dampens a lot of what the bm can do 2. you are playing on a map which bm doesnt creep well (twisted basically, though its also true on some lesser played maps like road to stratholme). that being said, a lot of times it comes down to personal preference. i see the grubster going fs more than other orcs in general. also, an interesting note, rotterdam is pretty famous for having an exclusive love affair with the far seer, so drop him a comment on their next cast and he can probably give you more insight than me, a lowly undead player | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 25 2009 22:38 esla_sol wrote: the arguments about crit/RNG for why the bm is good....completely unfounded. crits arent even completely random, they use a system called "progressive percentages" source: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/23182-Wotlk_uses_Warcraft_3_codes_for_item_drop_rate You do know that system doesn't make the BM worse but better right? The problem with that system is that it doesn't deteriorate (at least based on the article) and I don't know if giving some controlling factor to the BM's crit is a good thing especially at level 3. | ||
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LuckyOne
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
I love the air shit infi pulls, awesome | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
I really like this match-up | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Semis: Moon VS TeD Grubby VS FoV Both on Saturday. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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neustadt
Germany39 Posts
http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1361.flv http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1362.flv http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1363.flv | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
any recommendable games from the tournament? first time that i'm going to watch some war 3 commentary games | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
On July 04 2009 17:23 iCCup.deL wrote: I can't recall any, but the commentary is very good throughout :D For people newer to WC3 I'd stay away from long games or mirror match-ups - look for a good Orc vs. Night Elf game. uh ted vs fov was amazing | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 04 2009 17:06 SaveYourSavior wrote: Hey any recommendable games from the tournament? first time that i'm going to watch some war 3 commentary games It's the best of the best playing, all games are good. | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
On July 04 2009 17:06 SaveYourSavior wrote: Hey any recommendable games from the tournament? first time that i'm going to watch some war 3 commentary games TeD vs. FoV series Moon vs. Lyn game 1 Basically all of the games are pretty good except for Sky's, he did not play so well this tournament. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On July 04 2009 17:06 SaveYourSavior wrote: Hey any recommendable games from the tournament? first time that i'm going to watch some war 3 commentary games On June 22 2009 20:36 esla_sol wrote: sky vs hot moon vs infi fov vs ted best series so far I enjoyed Grubby VS Lyn, the longest games are the ones esla_sol posted pretty much. Starting in 30 mins! | ||
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GTR
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BeaTeR
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RyanS
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Get on the stream. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Sure, I thought it was amazing too - but for someone new to watching WC3 it might not be as easy to understand or as exciting if they don't get what is going on. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/kr.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.mymym.com/gfx/nightelves.gif) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/cn.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.mymym.com/gfx/undead.gif) Maps + Show Spoiler + Game 1 - ![[image loading]](http://www.mymym.com/gfx/Terenas%20Stand.jpg) Game 2 - ![[image loading]](http://bane.epicwar.com/i/p/355/88621.jpg) Game 3 - ![[image loading]](http://bane.epicwar.com/i/p/295/73509.jpg) Game 4 - ![[image loading]](http://www.raw3.ru/images/minimaps/AncientIsles.jpg) Game 5 - ![[image loading]](http://bane.epicwar.com/i/p/320/79932.jpg) + Show Spoiler [Moon v TeD Results] + Moon 1-1 TeDWatch live: GOMtv.net | ||
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Roxen000
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-Stream death? | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Odies
Denmark275 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
And yeah now stream is dead. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
T'was pretty tense, hopefully moon still pulls it off | ||
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Integra
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
From what I see, TeD Level 3 DK with ghouls, Lich (didn't see level) and 1 statue Moon with DH and Naga both level 2, didn't see the units Game paused, moon got a spike I think. | ||
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Odies
Denmark275 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
I got dc'd again, but its seems normal now, Game restarted Wtf, game 4 already, Apparently Ted won | ||
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GTR
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Roxen000
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4th game | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Anyway, DK killed an archer, doing a harassment now on moons base with some skeletons vs wisps but no dead wisps so far. DK level 2 now | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On July 04 2009 21:36 myrmidon2537 wrote: I'll try to LR, but I suck at it (its going to be my first time) so bear with me Anyway, DK killed an archer, doing a harassment now on moons base with some skeletons vs wisps but no dead wisps so far. DK level 2 now thx for LR man! can't get on a stream | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Moon with 3 archers, Ted creeping an expansion. Apparently it was the DH level 2 earlier, not DK DK at 2 now with Talisman and TP Moon got Immolation and mana burn. Surrounded the DH but gave it up because of immolation. ToD says that the ring of protection with the DH helps alot DH also has staff of teleportation btw | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Ted teching to tier 3, Naga has level 2 but with low HP, better be careful with coil. Ted making a slaughter house and pit again. Looks like wyrms again | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Ted also creeping an expansion. Moon creeping a laboratory Moon gets an Ankh of reincarnation =O Ted creep jacks but gets only 1 archer | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
teD wastes a nova on the illusion Demon Hunter | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
36 for moon, 3 or so archers and 2 bears moons heroes: 3-3 Ted: 3-2 moon has 1 dryad which dies as he tries to harass Ted creeping a lab. 1st wyrm is out now, moon with staff action to save his bear Ted has a wand of wind. Naga down via nova | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Moon has only 4 dryads and 2 bears... not looking good for moon Ted with 2 ghouls, 3 fiends, a wyrm, and a statue. Moon creeping a dragon camp Naga is back picked up a bone chime and trueshot aura both on naga. Ted engages Moon just TPs away | ||
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Goshawk.
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Frost worm goes down, DH being focussed but it has Ankh plus wells. DK down to 15 mana after some heavy burns, and 2 fiends go down and is forced to TP - Moon defends successfully. | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Ted with a big army and I think he also got a naga. 5 fiends with aboms now, destroyer also out as well. Big battle on moon's base, DH still has Ankh, Wyrm goes down, Moon holding his own, Abom dying, DK tp'd out and loses 2 more fiends. Never fight vs moon well'd base says Tod | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Maps + Show Spoiler + Game 1 - Game 2 - Game 3 - Game 4 - Game 5 - + Show Spoiler [Moon v TeD Results] + Moon 1-3 TeDRecommended game: Game 4 ~ a few small moments put the game on a knife edge, was a really close and exciting one + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 4 ToD~If you have a level 6 demon hunter and it still has the ankh you are a very happy man RotterdaM~Yeah you can just run into the opponent's army ToD~SPARTAAAA Watch live: GOMtv.net | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Moon has massed up a decent army now. Ted has a shade out though and scouted moon's army If everyone has a stream, I'll stop LR'ing for a moment. ^^ Tod whispers "Sparta~~" wtf Moon's army going to Ted's base, clash at ted's base | ||
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deL
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
This made me appreciate the hard work LR's do for PL, MSL, OSL etc. *phew* <3 | ||
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Goshawk.
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
EDIT: It just went down for me as well | ||
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GTR
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Last I saw. DH died (where did his ankh go O_O) got insta revived in the tavern. Tree of eternity was also sniped. | ||
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GTR
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Integra
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Don't like to LR cos even if people can't watch it starts basically from where they left so they might get spoiled when they wanna watch it delayed instead. | ||
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teekuppi
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
My stream crashed as the game ended. Bad day for Gom I guess | ||
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teekuppi
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.gypsy
Canada689 Posts
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myrmidon2537
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deL
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myrmidon2537
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floor exercise
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/nl.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.mymym.com/gfx/orc.gif) Maps + Show Spoiler + Game 1 - Game 2 - Game 3 - ![[image loading]](http://tft.replayers.com/images/minimaps/(2)MeltingValley.jpg) Game 4 - Game 5 - Results + Show Spoiler [FoV v Grubby Results] + FoV 0-3 GrubbyRecommended game: None, really - maybe Game 1 + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 1 ToD~I like how you say 'pops a critical' ToD~Some people likes to pop a champagne, Blademasters like to pop a crit Watch live: GOMtv.net | ||
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deL
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Gogo Grubbeh ^_^ | ||
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tentaclemonster
United States118 Posts
replays.net have a very up to date result page btw. http://news.replays.net/page/20090704/1422814.html | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 04 2009 22:29 tentaclemonster wrote: Anybody's stream up? Did Fov/Grubby start? replays.net have a very up to date result page btw. http://news.replays.net/page/20090704/1422814.html >:o putting me out of a job, but naw - I speak English plus I have CHOICE QUOTES Also, Grubby v FoV started and Grubby had a big advantage but FoV really did well in the fight and kept it equal, if not gain an advantage. | ||
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myrmidon2537
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deL
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tentaclemonster
United States118 Posts
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floor exercise
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
the chinese are flooding it =\ | ||
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GTR
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Grubby won | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Now, there are more viewers than the server can accommodate. Please try to access after a few minutes." GG... guess I'll be waiting for Vods | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 04 2009 22:47 floor exercise wrote: It doesnt even let me launch gom player anymore If you are trying to launch it from the live page using the Live button on an unsupported browser (e.g. Opera) it may not launch at all. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Grubby up 2-0 | ||
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Avius
Iraq1796 Posts
Grubby won the second game. The base raid totally fucked FoV over losing his main by not having a TP :S hopefully FoV wins the next game because I really like this series. Two former 4Kings playing against each other I want the maximum amount of games possible. I fucking already missed Moon vs. TeD and that sucks buttfuckidifuck, because I really wanted to watch that. Gotta wait the time till the vods are up then. | ||
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sushiman
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Avius
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floor exercise
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
Guess the Chinese hoard have arrived. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Match #1 Results + Show Spoiler [Moon v TeD Results] + Moon 1-3 TeDCloser <Twisted Meadows> Not Required Recommended game: Game 4 ~ a few small moments put the game on a knife edge, was a really close and exciting one + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 4 ToD~If you have a level 6 demon hunter and it still has the ankh you are a very happy man RotterdaM~Yeah you can just run into the opponent's army ToD~SPARTAAAA Match #2 Results + Show Spoiler [FoV v Grubby Results] + FoV 0-3 GrubbySet 4 <Ancient Isles> Not Required Closer <Terenas Stand> Not Required Recommended game: Game 1, though none were amazing as expected. + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 1 ToD~I like how you say 'pops a critical' ToD~Some people likes to pop a champagne, Blademasters like to pop a crit Watch VODs: GOMtv.net | ||
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
On July 04 2009 23:29 iCCup.deL wrote: + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 4 ToD~If you have a level 6 demon hunter and it still has the ankh you are a very happy man RotterdaM~Yeah you can just run into the opponent's army ToD~SPARTAAAA LOL. Tod would say that. | ||
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Judicator
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On July 05 2009 04:36 Spike wrote: lol I know absolutely nothing about WAR3 but I don't care cause the commentary just keeps me going. yea, i totally agree. That ToD kid is an amazing broadcaster. | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
On July 04 2009 06:55 neustadt wrote: VODs Grubby vs Infi http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1361.flv http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1362.flv http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1363.flv i cant find the semis links i tried http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1364.flv ---nothing http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1365.flv ---starcraft | ||
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neustadt
Germany39 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5449 Posts
On July 05 2009 06:10 broz0rs wrote: yea, i totally agree. That ToD kid is an amazing broadcaster. Agreed. Definitely the best English casters out there. A lot of credit to Rotterdam too, not just ToD. | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
I mean, I've heard of Turtle Rock and Echo for years now. It's like still using Lost Temple in tournaments today. Is it just really difficult to make a balanced War3 map? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 06 2009 06:57 Spike wrote: Since I know nothing about War3, can someone tell me why they use these maps? I mean, I've heard of Turtle Rock and Echo for years now. It's like still using Lost Temple in tournaments today. Is it just really difficult to make a balanced War3 map? Depending on the league and tournament, some maps are still used and some aren't. LoTemp was taken out in general. Echo and TR are still somewhat used. Melting Valley is an interesting new map that HUs have a terrible time on. And yes, it is somewhat hard to make a balanced War3 map (it is in SC/BW too, it's just there's a bigger motivation with the Korean e-sports scene), namely because there are more factors involved for the dynamics of a regular War3 game that isn't relevant in SC/BW. The neutral creeps, neutral shops/taverns and the heroes, especially the first 2 can and does determine the win/loss-ratio on a lot of maps and complicate the making of the map. And there are no really balanced maps at the high levels, I think the closest you get is Echo Isles based on the various replays I have watched, the games on there are typically close and winnable for either player. | ||
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United States2822 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Usually it seems to me that the War3 players go for a really weird unit mixes that make no sense at all | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
my fav player because he usually does risky stuff and try to hold on with his micro. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Evenstar is one of the Korean commentators and "won the first place at Korea Blizzard Worldwide Invitational and Prime League Season IV in 2004" back before he retired. They are only playing one map though, on MV. http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/25028-ToD_to_feature_in_GWI_exhibition_game | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
he'll smash evenstar too. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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sword_siege
United States624 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5449 Posts
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
thx | ||
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
On July 08 2009 17:38 Dgtl wrote: I really like ToD and Roterdams casting. They make a great pair. I might even venture to say a better pair than SDM and tasteless :O I agree. When Tastless and SDM first started at WCG 2008 together it was fresh and original. Now when I watch it seems like they say the same analysis, tell the same stories(SDM disconnecting against the guy who happened to be sitting across from him, Tasteless having to play his brother in WCG final, etc. Hear all these 4+ times) and their jokes seem old and played out. ToD and Rotterdam have new things to say every cast. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
If you guys wanna see an epic BM go here: http://www.wcreplays.com/replay.php?m=View&rid=7345 ![[image loading]](http://www.wcreplays.com/pubimages/5-07-2009%2018-25-33%20-%2053.jpg) Blademaster popping 400 crits! Also, has the stream ever gone down in SC streams? I assume they use the same servers as for the WC3 streams, so is the WC3 one gaining more viewers? Oh and 3rd/4th place match between Moon and FoV in 1 hour 15 mins. | ||
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Medzo
United States627 Posts
Moon is called the 5th race btw because he does (or use to do) craaZy strategies and Grubby could never figure out what Moon would do in the next game. I dont know who I want to win 3rd. EDIT: Also I hate BM so much. BM and exp tomes are mostly the reason why I stopped playing wc3. | ||
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Roxen000
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On June 04 2009 01:55 Chill wrote: I have no idea about War3, which is exactly why I'm going to watch this. Hope I can learn a lot quickly from the commentary. This is what i was thinking (almost word for word actually!) I have never really understood Warcraft 3 as much as Starcraft (build orders and game play) so I never really took an interest in it. However, Moon seems to have respect from most of the Starcraft guys so I doubt that it is a "skilless" game. It's great that there are english commentators for this, if there weren't I doubt I'd be watching. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Oh in team fights, pay especially attention to heroes and positioning, for example Grubby's 2nd game against Infi, Grubby won because he decided to focus fire the MK instead of trying to pick units off, Infi stuck his MK out a little too far and got caught. | ||
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deL
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deL
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GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals 3rd/4th Place Match Maps + Show Spoiler + Game 1 - Secret Valley Game 2 - Echo Isles Game 3 - Melting Valley Game 4 - Twisted Meadows Game 5 - Ancient Isles + Show Spoiler [Moon v FoV Results] + Moon 0-0 FoVRecommended game: None yet + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 1 (1st attempt) ~ToD: What you are seeing here please do not try this at home [Moon's sweet staff play], if you do this you will lose. ~RotterdaM: The scenes you see here are being performed by professionals under the supervision of professionals and should not be tried at home. ~ToD: I'm gonna tell moon right now on MSN Breath of fire on the buildings you dumbass. Watch live: GOMtv.net | ||
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deL
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
It's definitely not a 'skilless' game, it just all comes to individual unit control a lot of the time. Blocking, surrounds, saving every unit. Moon VS FoV live now. g1 on SV. | ||
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Roxen000
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deL
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
It went well, I was appreciative of the turnout - ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/au.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif) NrG.GoD-, a Korean living in Australia I think (he has good English though), won and ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif) Spud from eRazer eSports was runner up | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 09 2009 22:30 ArvickHero wrote: hmm I wonder is there any place where i could get a goodlysis on the races and matchups of WC3? I searched it up on google and I found a topic from TL that had a very nice analysis, but it was from 2005 lol.. mymym.com has some old articles there detailing how to play certian matchups - they were very basic but a good place to start. It was basically just titled something like "How to play ORC v ORC" or something so you can throw that into a search. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
http://www.mymym.com/en/article/768/2.html http://www.mymym.com/en/article/763.html http://www.mymym.com/en/article/750.html Here are some, not sure how many he did. Very generally it is NE > ORC > UNDEAD > NE and Human slots in here and there depending on map. | ||
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Roxen000
1226 Posts
Good to see there was a nice turnout. On the topic of Australian gaming though, do you any idea on what is going on with WCGAus? Seriously, I look at their website and see zero information. Is WCG even running for Australia this year? | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Yeah I have no idea either, I kind of ignore WCG seeing there is no StarCraft (although following GLaDe in the wc3 is always entertaining as he pulls out some sweet games and sick upsets :D). The website is even more dead than teamaus but I do recall seeing something about everything being postponed as the funding from a sponsor was pulled. No idea why they can't get SC back in Aus and just use Online qualifiers - look at the Aus tourney 16 players without much organising on my or iCCup's behalf and that was on a weekend where people had work and things planned with 1 week notice. | ||
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Roxen000
1226 Posts
Yeah, it's pretty bad =/. I really hope this won't happen when sc2 is released D: Well done on getting the tournament together though. Hopefully there will be more in the future | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [offtopic] + Yeah well I'd love to help out with events such as an Aus v England grudge match in SC, or Aus v NZ and all fun things like that as I think the SC playercount is there and there is some talent, but of course latency is a huge problem for us. I think SC2 should be fine, because not only will the SC and WC3 communities (which were strong for Aus at times with Leg, GLaDe, PhilBoT, etc.) come together but internet will hopefully be getting better, latency problems alleviated and the huge dota communities might be interested | ||
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omninmo
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Roxen000
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Yeah grudge matches would be really cool. Hey man do you have msn? Wanna PM me your address? | ||
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Integra
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pangshai
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deL
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) and hippogryphs - pretty much everything Moon had in the first game.On their own gargs are easily countered but with trihero, wagons, aboms and frost wyrms they become very useful to increase the DPS a huge amount and harass. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
3rd/4th Place Match Maps + Show Spoiler + Game 1 - Secret Valley Game 2 - Echo Isles Game 3 - Melting Valley Game 4 - Twisted Meadows Game 5 - Ancient Isles + Show Spoiler [Moon v FoV Results] + Moon 2-2 FoVRecommended games: Game 2 --- Awesome play by Moon with a very interesting strategy flawlessly executed. Game 4 --- Very back and forth game with very high level decision making and micro. Very, very nice game although a bit of an anti-climatic finale. + Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 1 (1st attempt) ~ToD: What you are seeing here please do not try this at home [Moon's sweet staff play], if you do this you will lose. ~RotterdaM: The scenes you see here are being performed by professionals under the supervision of professionals and should not be tried at home. ~ToD: I'm gonna tell moon right now on MSN Breath of fire on the buildings you dumbass. Game 4 - went something like this, can't remember it exactly ~ToD: And the statue getting slowed, OOOOH the mud golem. The mud golem is punching the statue, "Where you going playa". ~ToD: And the MVP makes a return. Watch live: GOMtv.net | ||
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pangshai
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Too_MuchZerg
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Butigroove
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Showtime!
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That game was beyond Epic. Game 4 is a must see. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
ow does moon manage to give an undead a +6 mantle, and a pendant of energy and win? | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 10 2009 00:53 pangshai wrote: last game was moon fucking up and losing his main, then coming back with harass to win? thats what i got from the commentary. Watch it man, that is an oversimplification Some very tense moments and nice decisionmaking and micro. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 10 2009 00:53 pangshai wrote: last game was moon fucking up and losing his main, then coming back with harass to win? thats what i got from the commentary. Pretty much. | ||
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Judicator
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Phearlock
Norway400 Posts
(hey that's better than me so) | ||
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Powerpill
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
haven't watched wc3 since forever... | ||
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
On July 10 2009 00:56 iCCup.deL wrote: Watch it man, that is an oversimplification Some very tense moments and nice decisionmaking and micro.lol i watched it, but i don't know if thats accurate (don't really know warcraft). | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 10 2009 01:03 LaiShin wrote: which game is on now? game 5? (moon v fov) haven't watched wc3 since forever... + Show Spoiler + Yes it is game 5, using spoiler tags in case people are waiting for VODs. Check my results post above Things looking good for Moon :D | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results 3rd/4th Place Match Maps Game 1 - Secret Valley Game 2 - Echo Isles Game 3 - Melting Valley Game 4 - Twisted Meadows Game 5 - Ancient Isles Results + Show Spoiler [Moon v FoV Results] + Moon 3-2 FoVRecommended games Game 2 --- + Show Spoiler + Awesome play by Moon with a very interesting strategy flawlessly executed. Game 4 --- + Show Spoiler + Very back and forth game with very high level decision making and micro. Very, very nice game although a bit of an anti-climatic finale. BONUS+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game 1 (1st attempt) ~ToD: What you are seeing here please do not try this at home [Moon's sweet staff play], if you do this you will lose. ~RotterdaM: The scenes you see here are being performed by professionals under the supervision of professionals and should not be tried at home. ~ToD: I'm gonna tell moon right now on MSN Breath of fire on the buildings you dumbass. Game 4 - went something like this, can't remember it exactly ~ToD: And the statue getting slowed, OOOOH the mud golem. The mud golem is punching the statue, "Where you going playa". ~ToD: And the MVP makes a return. Watch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
anyone know the new links? | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
Commentator showmatch: ToD vs. EvenStar Grand final: + Show Spoiler + Grubby vs. TeD | ||
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GTR
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
And they only post a set of videos like 1 every day for like a month now. | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
On July 11 2009 17:23 CharlieMurphy wrote: This gomtv.net shit pisses me off, you can't watch videos for like a week after they occur. And they only post a set of videos like 1 every day for like a month now. moon vs fov starts http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1389.flv then just increase by 1 for the others. | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
On July 11 2009 17:23 CharlieMurphy wrote: This gomtv.net shit pisses me off, you can't watch videos for like a week after they occur. And they only post a set of videos like 1 every day for like a month now. moon vs fov starts http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1389.flv then just increase by 1 for the others. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
The Korean stream is http://ch.gomtv.com/432 I believe. If I get a stream I will LR if people need. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Anyway, we shall see. Hope it's okay. | ||
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deL
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deL
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GTR
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LuckyOne
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GTR
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Stream is about 35mins in atm. | ||
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
Anyone else experiencing similar problems atm? | ||
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Roxen000
1226 Posts
ToD takes it! Pretty good game | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:33 GinNtoniC wrote: gomtv.net has totally lagged out for me. I can't seem to access anything and any other site loads just fine. Anyone else experiencing similar problems atm? Yer, site is very slow. Try the VLC stream mb. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results Commentator Show-Match ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/fr.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.mymym.com/gfx/human.gif) Map Game 1 - Melting Valley Results + Show Spoiler [ToD v EvenStar Results] + EvenStar 0-1 ToDWatch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
they are drunk | ||
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Roxen000
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GTR
51497 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:51 Roxen000 wrote: When they talk about "denies", does that mean using their units to kill their own units to prevent the enemy from getting exp? yes, just like in dota damn chinese, can't get back on stream. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:51 Roxen000 wrote: When they talk about "denies", does that mean using their units to kill their own units to prevent the enemy from getting exp? Yeah. That's also why he was talking about DotA. In DotA denying is a major part of the game because it's all about heroes. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:51 Roxen000 wrote: When they talk about "denies", does that mean using their units to kill their own units to prevent the enemy from getting exp? Exactly | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Yeah it sucks my stream just keep dieing. | ||
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:51 Roxen000 wrote: When they talk about "denies", does that mean using their units to kill their own units to prevent the enemy from getting exp? Yer. It's only really done early game because in bigger fights it's not worth trying to do it. Better to micro units back then/save them if you can. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4131 Posts
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Kenny
United States678 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Kenny
United States678 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
EDIT. Thnkx!!! | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Kenny
United States678 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Grubby has a farseer :o | ||
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Kenny
United States678 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
FS lvl 3 DK lvl 2 almost 3 | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:06 GTR wrote: correct link is http://ch.gomtv.com/432 (for korean) Yah -.- too used to doing the country code for China... | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
TeD's army getting raped by Tauren + army, lost like all of his spiders. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Kenny
United States678 Posts
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Roxen000
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
PS. Will love anyone who livestreams this. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
Grubby has lvl 3 FS and TC, vs DK/Lich 3/1 Grubby looking very good though no huge battles yet. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
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Powerpill
United States1693 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:14 Integra wrote: The Live Stream works, problem is that the gomtv.net webpage is still down. no it doesnt it only works for certain people, ive been trying to reload it for 20minutes | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results Grand Final Maps Game 1 - Terenas Stand Game 2 - Ancient Isle Game 3 - Echo Isles Game 4 - Secret Valley Game 5 - Twisted Meadows Results + Show Spoiler [Grubby v TeD Results] + TeD 0-1 GrubbyRecommended games + Show Spoiler + None yet BONUS+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game? None yet. Watch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 11 2009 22:22 Zinbiel wrote: apparently, the same vlc link as for the starcraft games works here too, http://65.49.46.50:8901/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&impurl=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3';\ Anyone tried this? | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results Grand Final Maps Game 1 - Terenas Stand Game 2 - Ancient Isle Game 3 - Echo Isles Game 4 - Secret Valley Game 5 - Twisted Meadows Results + Show Spoiler [Grubby v TeD Results] + TeD 1-1 GrubbyRecommended games + Show Spoiler + None yet BONUS+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game? None yet. Watch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page Just a reminder I will try and repost this on each new page for people keeping up to date with the results here, alternatively you can see live result updates here: http://news.replays.net/page/20090711/1423297.html | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
Does not work either here | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Too bad. I was looking forward to this. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:43 iCCup.deL wrote: TeD takes the 2nd game Really!? :O He seemed so behind! edit: not seemed. He was. After losing his Death Knight, statue and a couple of fiends, how the hell did he turn that back around? | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
this was the 3rd game | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
oh, hmm. This is all getting mildly confusing...' hmm no wait, they said in the game where he lost his DK early that "wow, it'd be really bad if Grubby went to 2-0 here, Ted would have an incredibly tough uphill after that" or something similar. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
FUCK GOMTV | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:45 GinNtoniC wrote: oh, hmm. This is all getting mildly confusing... deL is way behind on the stream, I had the stream up for a few seconds and saw it was on the 3rd game not 2nd | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:46 iCCup.deL wrote: Yeh I said that one late cos i took a break to go check the cricket score then with all due respected, don't shout out results that you can't confirm | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:47 GinNtoniC wrote: then with all due respected, don't shout out results that you can't confirm With all due respect don't accuse me of not knowing - I had it confirmed I was just not writing anything at the time. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 11 2009 23:48 iCCup.deL wrote: With all due respect don't accuse me of not knowing - I had it confirmed I was just not writing anything at the time. lol | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
http://www.gomtv.com/index.gom Click brown button. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results Grand Final Maps Game 1 - Terenas Stand Game 2 - Ancient Isle Game 3 - Echo Isles Game 4 - Secret Valley Game 5 - Twisted Meadows Results + Show Spoiler [Grubby v TeD Results] + TeD 1-2 GrubbyRecommended games + Show Spoiler + None yet BONUS+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game? None yet. Watch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page Just a reminder I will try and repost this on each new page for people keeping up to date with the results here, alternatively you can see live result updates here: http://news.replays.net/page/20090711/1423297.html | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
... Was looking forward to watching the finals but apparently the servers just couldn't handle it. Now I have to ask, what is the point of having an online tournament which cannot be viewed online? | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Powerpill
United States1693 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On July 12 2009 00:34 Powerpill wrote: oh well, I'm not into War3 enough to wait around any more for this, just super glad the Valor streams haven't been like this. That's because they aren't as popular. Korean is fine for me, just waiting for a host. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Click the brown button. | ||
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Grubby wins 3-1 Last game was pretty good I thought. TeD had a timing window and did some damage but in the end Grubbys faster 2nd hero and higher hero levels were too much. TeD GGs just as the Blademaster hits level 6 :p I guess he didn't fancy watching all his units get rinsed. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals Results Grand Final Maps Game 1 - Terenas Stand Game 2 - Ancient Isle Game 3 - Echo Isles Game 4 - Secret Valley Game 5 - Twisted Meadows Results + Show Spoiler [Grubby v TeD Results] + TeD 1-3 GrubbyNA <Twisted Meadows> NA Recommended games + Show Spoiler + Game 4 - The most exciting from what I saw, though I missed entirely game 3. BONUS+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] + Game? None yet. Recommend some. Between TeD's lag and the stream dying you are better off watching the VODs to find out .Watch live: GOMtv.net Live Watch VODs: GOMtv.net VOD page | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
oh yeah, you can watch the VODs of the final even if you don't have premium, probably because they had live streaming problems. Also they said they were gonna do this little talk show thing with SC2 possibly, anyone know where it is? | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
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