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Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
December 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#4761
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/767418

You could use that map to practice. It's only a spinner.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 16 2013 10:54 GMT
#4762
On December 16 2013 12:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Hey guys, just started playing! Im KTFlaSh96 on osu.

anyone know the best way to get better at the spinners? im like, probably the worst player ever at spinners (using mouse and keyboard) with like an average of 175 lol.
I dont know about the best way, but a tip is to try to spin in small, controlled circles. I think one should be able to at least get it to 250-300 that way.
501TFX
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria345 Posts
December 16 2013 19:54 GMT
#4763
On December 16 2013 12:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Hey guys, just started playing! Im KTFlaSh96 on osu.

anyone know the best way to get better at the spinners? im like, probably the worst player ever at spinners (using mouse and keyboard) with like an average of 175 lol.


It's basically just practice and "getting the hang of it" out of my experience.
As others said already, try to make small circles, spin the direction you feel the more comfortable with (like, I personally can only spin anti-clockwise, clockwise is like half the speed for me :D) and I guess don't think too much into it. I feel, spinner speed is the least important skill to have in osu, but that's just my experience ^^

And maybe it's a placebo effect, but I feel that I'm a tad bit faster, if I'm starting off with a huge circle and make it into a small spin ... dunno, since I saw doomsday do it, I do it too, just out of habit ...
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10126 Posts
December 17 2013 03:38 GMT
#4764
i guess just practicing and being more controlled helps a lot. i average around 220 now so getting better
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Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 01:40:03
December 20 2013 01:32 GMT
#4765
On December 16 2013 19:54 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 12:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Hey guys, just started playing! Im KTFlaSh96 on osu.

anyone know the best way to get better at the spinners? im like, probably the worst player ever at spinners (using mouse and keyboard) with like an average of 175 lol.
I dont know about the best way, but a tip is to try to spin in small, controlled circles. I think one should be able to at least get it to 250-300 that way.

It took me ages (1000's of plays) to move my spin average from like 200 to 230-240 while not missing the following notes -_-.

Try becoming conscious of what hand motion/muscles you are using, and how you are gripping the mouse. If you suddenly have a breakthrough day, you're going to want to remember these details because eventually you'll need to remember how. Also, you can try a round of two of spinning very relaxedly, slowly, small circles, trying never to cross the center dot (which will kill your spin), before going to your normal spin.

Don't know if this helps, but you can try watching replays or vods of other people spinning, just to get an idea of what different techniques look like.


On December 16 2013 08:33 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 04:32 Chronopolis wrote:
On December 15 2013 15:45 Rizare wrote:
It has been a while since I posted here. I played on and off, but I started playing again a lot. As always, streams are the worse and ar8 seems to be the limit for now. I can somewhat manage ar9, but I die too quickly. I began to play easier maps with HD a few minutes ago as of this post. Somewhat bored of banging my head against ar9.

How are you guys doing?


I think it's mainly cause ar9 songs are categorically harder than ar8. Like I browsed through my ar9 songs and there were virtually no songs I would call easy. Anyways, try starting with some easier ar9's:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/270586
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/136400
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/151243
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/191942
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/136336
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/163789
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/122776
Hm, i would indeed say ar is correlated with difficulty, but that's not all there is too it.
It's also getting used to a certain ar. While some people are used to ar 8, and think that ar 9 is very fast, some people are used to ar10+ so much that they claim that ar9 is unplayable or hard to play, because of the low ar. There also are songs that are hard partly (or mostly) because of the ar.* I personally think problems with ar boil down to 2 things: either handling more circles then you're used to when playing lower ar or, when playing higher ar, having less time then you're used to to react to coming patterns. Both just need practice. I get the idea that most people neglect low ar, like most people dont practice slow streams: it's boring and frustrating at times.

*These come to mind:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/21342 Not very hard, but ar 9 would be easier imo
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/16349 I only play the lesjuh diff, but that one needs some ridiculous control to get high combo, because of 220 bpm combined with ar 8. Also, before i played anything ar10 i was relatively better at the song then now..
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/10406 This would be hard even without low ar, but you have to hold back your aim/rythm greatly at times.

Yup, quite agree with that. The problem of hitting notes too early or late shouldn't be an issue because after a few notes you should be timing via the rhythm and only using the circles to indicate what type of note. The people who are used to AR10, I believe, have played too much of just one AR, and have forgotten how to switch.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 01:39:10
December 20 2013 01:38 GMT
#4766
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
December 22 2013 09:21 GMT
#4767
I've never been able to adjust downward in speed on things like AR or scroll rate (in mania style games). I've seen plenty of people who seem to be able to play well in a range of speeds, but I've only ever been able to be anywhere near decent at one speed, which tends to increase over time until I hit a point where it levels out. I've never liked low AR, not because of the sow approach circles (I don't pay any attention to those in the first place) but because too much on the screen causes me to be unable to read, and the level of "too much" gets lower and lower as I get faster at reacting. I've been playing music games for a decade and have NEVER been able to adjust downward despite trying quite a few times. I HAVE adjusted to a slower scroll rate in mania, but that's entirely offset by the fact that I play with FL, so I still have very little time to react.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
December 22 2013 22:45 GMT
#4768
kind of funny that the easy mod actually makes standard osu like 10x harder
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 23 2013 01:17 GMT
#4769
On December 22 2013 18:21 Bobbias wrote:
I've never been able to adjust downward in speed on things like AR or scroll rate (in mania style games). I've seen plenty of people who seem to be able to play well in a range of speeds, but I've only ever been able to be anywhere near decent at one speed, which tends to increase over time until I hit a point where it levels out. I've never liked low AR, not because of the sow approach circles (I don't pay any attention to those in the first place) but because too much on the screen causes me to be unable to read, and the level of "too much" gets lower and lower as I get faster at reacting. I've been playing music games for a decade and have NEVER been able to adjust downward despite trying quite a few times. I HAVE adjusted to a slower scroll rate in mania, but that's entirely offset by the fact that I play with FL, so I still have very little time to react.

Hm, strange. I have had trouble with low ar for a while, but now i'm practicing ar 7 with high od to work on my timing. Ever since i dont really have any trouble with low ar. Especially tag4 maps seem to have gotten way easier. (they're still quite hard of course)

Ido notice that playing fast maps with low ar (around 230 bpm with ar 7) strains my right hand more then normal ar fast maps. So maybe it is an aim issue.

And of course, easy mod is the most retarded mod, except fl. I don't think there is a one way ticket to an easier map using only od, ar, cs and hd regardless of type of map. A mod reducing speed by 10 % would probably come closer then current easy mod.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 14:04:41
December 26 2013 13:58 GMT
#4770
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm really satisfied with this. I switched effective DPI's from 1666 to 833, which is the same speed I use for every else. Before switching, I could never have imagined hitting the majority of the streams. Doing jumps post-switch wasn't as bad as I thought, but maybe that's because I practiced a lot of half time Story of my Wife and Airman before and after. Took about 2 days to catch up to the same speed barriers I was at before, and the aim improvement was immediate. You have have to be so much more off to miss.
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
January 04 2014 04:25 GMT
#4771
Any recommendation for keyboard switch for osu? Currently playing with the steelseries 7G that has black switches, I know I want to switch away from black but not sure if I should get red, brown, or blue (which to my understanding are the options I am looking at).
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
January 04 2014 07:51 GMT
#4772
A lot of people use all three of those. I have browns and I like them, but I've never tried blues/reds. It usually comes down to personal preference.

If you don't want to be really loud, I wouldn't recommend blues.

If you really want to try them out before buying.
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html

I have a das keyboard:
[image loading]
A keyboard with blank keys is pretty!
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
January 04 2014 07:57 GMT
#4773
Have been looking at the CM Storm Quickfire models, also the stealth version of them which I liked a lot.

Tried doing more research and reds seem like the most natural change, they are basicly a lighter black switch, but I have just never tried the tactile thingy which brown and blue have, so hoping on some input on what people think of the tactile.. thingy, incase I should get a switch with that.

Also if any of the three switches (blue, red, brown) would be poor choices for other games would be appreciated to know.
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 10:47:17
January 04 2014 10:38 GMT
#4774
Doing jumps post-switch wasn't as bad as I thought, but maybe that's because I practiced a lot of half time Story of my Wife and Airman before and after.


You can work up to standard speed, then double time! :D (relax mod maybe)

What's your screen resolution? 833dpi on 1280x1024 for example is ~1.5 inches to cross screen, while on 2560x1440 it is ~3.07

A keyboard with blank keys is pretty!

http://i.imgur.com/WsRpgFx.jpg

dust

so much dust between keys, why am i so lazy


On January 04 2014 16:57 NTTemplar wrote:
Have been looking at the CM Storm Quickfire models, also the stealth version of them which I liked a lot.

Tried doing more research and reds seem like the most natural change, they are basicly a lighter black switch, but I have just never tried the tactile thingy which brown and blue have, so hoping on some input on what people think of the tactile.. thingy, incase I should get a switch with that.

Also if any of the three switches (blue, red, brown) would be poor choices for other games would be appreciated to know.


Red or Brown IMO for most stuff, sc2/osu; i've not tried red/black but from what i know blacks can be overly heavy sometimes, and i don't like the way blue actuates

[image loading]
^Brown

[image loading]
^Black/red (red is lower force but looks pretty much the same)

[image loading]
^Blue - there's a large gap between the operating point and reset point which i just don't like at all. Brown, black, red etc don't share that trait
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
January 04 2014 11:18 GMT
#4775
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 04 2014 19:38 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Doing jumps post-switch wasn't as bad as I thought, but maybe that's because I practiced a lot of half time Story of my Wife and Airman before and after.


You can work up to standard speed, then double time! :D (relax mod maybe)

What's your screen resolution? 833dpi on 1280x1024 for example is ~1.5 inches to cross screen, while on 2560x1440 it is ~3.07

Show nested quote +
A keyboard with blank keys is pretty!

http://i.imgur.com/WsRpgFx.jpg

dust

so much dust between keys, why am i so lazy


Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 16:57 NTTemplar wrote:
Have been looking at the CM Storm Quickfire models, also the stealth version of them which I liked a lot.

Tried doing more research and reds seem like the most natural change, they are basicly a lighter black switch, but I have just never tried the tactile thingy which brown and blue have, so hoping on some input on what people think of the tactile.. thingy, incase I should get a switch with that.

Also if any of the three switches (blue, red, brown) would be poor choices for other games would be appreciated to know.


Red or Brown IMO for most stuff, sc2/osu; i've not tried red/black but from what i know blacks can be overly heavy sometimes, and i don't like the way blue actuates

[image loading]
^Brown

[image loading]
^Black/red (red is lower force but looks pretty much the same)

[image loading]
^Blue - there's a large gap between the operating point and reset point which i just don't like at all. Brown, black, red etc don't share that trait



With that in mind I've decided on the CM Storm Quickfire Stealth with Red (so many words ._. ). Didn't really find stealth brown there from a "top seller" and a newbie ebayer like me wants that topseller mark, so that made the choice easy... as europe don't sell stealth due to stupid patent stuff and I can only get Ebay sellers to ship to where I am in norway <.< (slight frustration venting done! :D)

Thanks Cyro and Xafnia
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
January 07 2014 06:36 GMT
#4776
osu! best of 2013 vote;
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/bestof2013
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 12:32:56
January 07 2014 12:18 GMT
#4777
On January 04 2014 19:38 Cyro wrote:
What's your screen resolution? 833dpi on 1280x1024 for example is ~1.5 inches to cross screen, while on 2560x1440 it is ~3.07

Resolution is 1024x768 (windowed). Across is about 1.8cm. With the numbers you gave that means I'm using ~1400 dpi.


so much dust between keys, why am i so lazy

Wait until you take them out! Yuck! I took out the keys of my (cheap, old) keyboard to clean them, but I plugged it into soon and it wouldn't reason, so I had to grab a spare one. I hope it still works.

charts

Thanks for the info, never had such a objective way of thinking about keys before. Fascinaaating.

On January 07 2014 15:36 Xafnia wrote:
osu! best of 2013 vote;
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/bestof2013

Decisions. Or not. Probably going to try to objectively judge for 3 songs, and then screw that and free vote the rest.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
January 07 2014 12:41 GMT
#4778
On January 07 2014 15:36 Xafnia wrote:
osu! best of 2013 vote;
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/bestof2013

This made me realise how picky i am regarding maps.
I had trouble finding 10 maps i really liked.

It didn't help i remember most maps by mapper (of some difficulty), not by song title >.>

In the end i went with these:
capitaro - Yoiduki Maiuta [Amamiya Yuko]
Cres - End Time [Fear]
DECO*27 feat. marina - Aimai Elegy [val0108]
himmeltengoku - Saika (Another Style Remix) [LKs]
Jin - Yobanashi Deceive [tutuhaha]
Last Note. - Renai Yuusha [Amamiya Yuko]
M2U - Gypsy Tronic [LKs]
Saitou Chiwa - Futakotome [Frostmourne]
scop - Keppekishou [tutuhaha]
supercell - Hero [Colin Hou]
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 02:54:34
January 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#4779
Resolution is 1024x768 (windowed). Across is about 1.8cm. With the numbers you gave that means I'm using ~1400 dpi.


DPI is always the same, if you have 833dpi on 1024 width screen then it's ~1.23 inches to cross screen

I'll try those maps!

DECO*27 feat. marina - Aimai Elegy val0108 - almost passed second try, died right at end :D

tried a few, really fun and good for practice so far!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
January 09 2014 21:20 GMT
#4780
I am desperate enough to try this, and maybe someone with super human gosu osu skills will be able to help me. The situation is this, I recently started playing osu! and the only thing missing is my favorite map! Now here comes the plot twist, I don't remember it's name!

To make things even better, I don't remember almost anything about it, other then the name has two words (most likely) and the background was a girl with a wolf on grass, top down point of view, anime style as always.

Now I know this is a long shot at best, but it would really make my day if someone could dig this up, I tried searching for it on the osu! site, but the sheer number of maps is too much to go through, maybe the vague description will ring a bell for someone. Or not.

Thanks anyhow!
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