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On December 20 2009 15:50 Misrah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2009 15:05 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On December 20 2009 14:25 Etherone wrote: there is no debate pc is clearly better for any sort of competitive play, the fact that you have aim assist kills it for me.
anyways i logged on yesterday and everyone was usuing akimbo 1887 and/or nade launchers it was really tilting.
ive been trying to use the intervention to get better at snipers and, it's really striking how obsolete snipers are, even when i join the larger maps i find that there no reason to use a sniper at all, especially considering there are only 2 of these "bigger" maps and one of them doesn't offer too much in the ways of long range opportunities.
im going to revert back to my cod4 class and go m16 rds stopping power and try and figure out some nice spot to spot map traversing methods that don't get raped by the 1887s.
also looking forward to trying out the aks since in cod4 they were amazing.
been on a WA2000 spree (kinda good weapon, takes a while to get ajusted from playing Barrett SP though) and one game on Wasteland I picked one up (silenced) all I can say is get stopping power if you plan on picking it up, was running Cold Blooded Pro and @ close-medium range it took 6-7 bullets to kill don't ever get stopping power with a sniper, do not ever get a silencer on a sniper. Get FMJ and Cold blood, and learn to hit heads end of story.
probably was confusing but I was talking about the AK47 the WA2000 part was just to say I switched from Barrett to it
tl;dr: post was supposed to be: been on a WA2000 spree (kinda good weapon, takes a while to get ajusted from playing Barrett SP though) and one game on Wasteland I picked an AK47 up (silenced)
all I can say is get stopping power if you plan on using AK47, was running Cold Blooded Pro (since WA2000 doesn't benefit from SP) and @ close-medium range it took 6-7 bullets to kill
extra notes: the recoil is non-existent, unless you spray for 4+ sec then it might start swaying a bit.
edit: also, it seems like my long range (well like across the map or almost) shots with WA2000 never register as a HS (even when I'm hardscoping an idle player, tried in a private match). Tried shooting pretty much everywhere in and around the head and I didn't get a single one.
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lol you guys are nuts if you think snipers are useless
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The new 1.07 patch just nerfed the 1887's.
They have much shorter range now.
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We need to get this thread going again because the mw1 vs mw2 thread sucks.
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On December 21 2009 11:24 Highways wrote: The new 1.07 patch just nerfed the 1887's.
They have much shorter range now.
Anyone know what other gameplay changes were made with the most recent patch? If there were any?
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What the... why did they nerf my 1887s Now there are no good weapons any more. Bummer. Guess I won't be playing any more.
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On December 23 2009 01:37 Nikoner wrote:What the... why did they nerf my 1887s  Now there are no good weapons any more. Bummer. Guess I won't be playing any more.
umm... how about learning to use a gun that actually takes skill? are you even being serious?
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Oh, so you just assume I started out with 1887 at level 1. Good job.
I played through 5 different weapons before switching to 1887s, and even then I was lugging a M21 as a backup for longer distances. Things like these make me go meh.
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On December 23 2009 02:04 Nikoner wrote: Oh, so you just assume I started out with 1887 at level 1. Good job.
I played through 5 different weapons before switching to 1887s, and even then I was lugging a M21 as a backup for longer distances. Things like these make me go meh.
No, I'm just assuming you suck too much to be good with any other guns... which you pretty much said yourself in your original post.. why else would you stop playing just becuase they removed the most imba gun in the game??
Besidses the fact that you are only willing to play with a gun that gives you a ridiculously unfair advantage over other players proves what a tool & douchebag you are... I think your probably the only person on earth who wants to stop playing because they nerfed the 1887.. like it's a bad thing they are making the game more balanced.. you obviously prefer an unbalanced game since you lack skill..
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people who tend to use the akimbo 87s tend to suck at the game anyways I outshotgun them with m1014 most of the time eh.
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On December 23 2009 02:09 stk01001 wrote: No, I'm just assuming you suck too much to be good with any other guns... which you pretty much said yourself in your original post.. why else would you stop playing just becuase they removed the most imba gun in the game??
Besidses the fact that you are only willing to play with a gun that gives you a ridiculously unfair advantage over other players proves what a tool & douchebag you are... I think your probably the only person on earth who wants to stop playing because they nerfed the 1887..
It's because it's the most fun. Thank you for calling me a tool & douchebag tho, was missing something for Christmas.
On December 23 2009 02:10 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: people who tend to use the akimbo 87s tend to suck at the game anyways I outshotgun them with m1014 most of the time eh.
Most people that play are bad anyway, the thing is that with shotguns, provided you are in range, you will have the initiative over AR/SMG/whatever users and that alone will get you more kills than any actual skill, provided you know what aiming means.
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well honestly I fucking hope I have initiative, I'm horribly limited by range and have a cooldown between each shot.
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I never got to use the 1887, because I'm only level 39 (got started late compared to most and don't play as much as you guys might) and most of the people I ran into were using akimbo rangers. So I can't really comment on them, but if it was like the rangers, but better.. it probably could have been annoying. I can imagine something like akimbo rangers but with more range as annoying. I like shotguns in general in the game, even the basic pump shotty is pretty powerful with sleight of hand. I don't use shotguns anymore though, I figure it is a good idea to be a team player and run around with a rocket launcher to take down choppers/planes. I played a few too many games where no one had one and people kept running outside to suicide to harriers and what not. So I'm running around with a stinger and using my SCAR to do everything else.
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On December 23 2009 02:34 789 wrote: I never got to use the 1887, because I'm only level 39 (got started late compared to most and don't play as much as you guys might) and most of the people I ran into were using akimbo rangers. So I can't really comment on them, but if it was like the rangers, but better.. it probably could have been annoying. I can imagine something like akimbo rangers but with more range as annoying. I like shotguns in general in the game, even the basic pump shotty is pretty powerful with sleight of hand. I don't use shotguns anymore though, I figure it is a good idea to be a team player and run around with a rocket launcher to take down choppers/planes. I played a few too many games where no one had one and people kept running outside to suicide to harriers and what not. So I'm running around with a stinger and using my SCAR to do everything else.
good man.
yeah, akimbo 1887 is worse than akimbo ranger tbh, with ranger at least you're limited to 2 rounds/gun and have to reload often whereas 1887 has like 5 rounds and with range/perks it's possible to one shot kill using only 1 of them which, if you use in the right situation, could let you chain kill people with barely any downtime
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On December 21 2009 06:38 Hawk wrote: lol you guys are nuts if you think snipers are useless
In Team Death match they are worthless. Simply put AR's do everything a sniper does, only better. If you are going to snipe (like me) you literally have to only snipe if you want to hope of becoming good enough, and have a quick shot. As far as sniping goes i realize that i am not the end all in sniper discussion, however for all of mw1 and mw2 the only thing that i have every done is snipe- Had my golden dragonov, and now i have the mastery of all but the M21 snipers. As much as i hate to admit it, sniping is really pointless. Until they (IW) change the maps / make them bigger, or take away the ungodly accurate red dot / halo sights from the guns- and actually make recoil shake your aim, sniping will always be pointless.
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Sweet Tears, which sniper are you using?
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On December 23 2009 02:53 Nikoner wrote: Sweet Tears, which sniper are you using?
WA2000 right now, used Barrett the most, tried intervention a bit but why go bolt action when you can semi auto -_-
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On December 23 2009 02:50 Misrah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2009 06:38 Hawk wrote: lol you guys are nuts if you think snipers are useless In Team Death match they are worthless. Simply put AR's do everything a sniper does, only better. If you are going to snipe (like me) you literally have to only snipe if you want to hope of becoming good enough, and have a quick shot. As far as sniping goes i realize that i am not the end all in sniper discussion, however for all of mw1 and mw2 the only thing that i have every done is snipe- Had my golden dragonov, and now i have the mastery of all but the M21 snipers. As much as i hate to admit it, sniping is really pointless. Until they (IW) change the maps / make them bigger, or take away the ungodly accurate red dot / halo sights from the guns- and actually make recoil shake your aim, sniping will always be pointless.
on normal, maybe, but on HC TDM, sniper is perfectly fine. I just use it for certain maps. It's pretty much a one shot each time and I really don't need more than that with the barrett (I dislike the WA2000, but I don't have any upgrades for it yet, so that may be why) If I have trouble with sniping, usually just running into players while not ready or having someone sneak up on me. There's like four or five maps where I'm completely comfortable running with sniper only the whole game no problem.
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based on the thread, hawk, none of these guys play HC (read: they're n00bz)
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On December 23 2009 04:02 CTStalker wrote: based on the thread, hawk, none of these guys play HC (read: they're n00bz) based on this post, guys, this guy is an elitist prick.
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