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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
December 22 2009 19:11 GMT
#681
Yeah I kinda figured htat halfway through writing :O

There really should be a second thread for HC, because it's nothing at all like normal.
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Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
December 22 2009 19:17 GMT
#682
Why is hardcore any less noobier :S

You lose your crosshair, cool, it's barely used. You lose your map, pain in the ass. You lose your ammo counter, pain in the ass. You kill in one or two shots, oh, cool, now I don't need to worry about aim as much!
Kk.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
December 22 2009 19:21 GMT
#683
...Are you serious? Have you tried HC?

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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 22 2009 19:22 GMT
#684
you have to worry about aim more -- if you start to hip fire at another player and miss 3 times, and he scopes, fires once, and hits you once, then you're dead
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
December 22 2009 19:23 GMT
#685
Hawk some of the guys of the people here never heard "Hardcore" yet thats why.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 22 2009 19:24 GMT
#686
On December 23 2009 04:10 789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 04:02 CTStalker wrote:
based on the thread, hawk, none of these guys play HC (read: they're n00bz)

based on this post, guys, this guy is an elitist prick.

the post was written jokingly. i don't care what mode you guys play, and i'm sure most of you would kick my ass in the regular mode. that said, i like the tactical play that's easier to foster in HC games
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
December 22 2009 19:24 GMT
#687
Not to mention that's where you'll find probably 75% of the good players. And that not having a mini map to let you know where shots are coming from makes it a lot harder. Or that there's no death cam, so that good sniper who has a good spot is going to rape your dumb ass about five times over.

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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
December 22 2009 19:27 GMT
#688
On December 23 2009 04:24 CTStalker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 04:10 789 wrote:
On December 23 2009 04:02 CTStalker wrote:
based on the thread, hawk, none of these guys play HC (read: they're n00bz)

based on this post, guys, this guy is an elitist prick.

the post was written jokingly. i don't care what mode you guys play, and i'm sure most of you would kick my ass in the regular mode. that said, i like the tactical play that's easier to foster in HC games

I apologize then.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 22 2009 19:28 GMT
#689
in either mode the team that works together the most will probably win. that teamwork-to-renegade score gap will just be exasperated in HC.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 22 2009 19:33 GMT
#690
On December 23 2009 03:32 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
WA2000 right now, used Barrett the most, tried intervention a bit but why go bolt action when you can semi auto -_-


I've developed a liking to the M21 myself, but I've seen negative reviews about it around here somewhere.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
December 22 2009 22:32 GMT
#691
On December 23 2009 04:33 Nikoner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 03:32 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
WA2000 right now, used Barrett the most, tried intervention a bit but why go bolt action when you can semi auto -_-


I've developed a liking to the M21 myself, but I've seen negative reviews about it around here somewhere.


my friend likes it a lot, I personally haven't tried it more than 2-3 shots (picking 1 up in a game) so I can't really tell
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DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
December 22 2009 23:51 GMT
#692
I played hardcore for quite a while, but you get fucked really bad when your team sucks. At least in ground war I can still fuck the other team up.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
December 23 2009 04:02 GMT
#693
I <3 Hardcore. Silenced Intervention + Me = <3

Anyways, who else thinks Terminal is RETARDEDLY one-sided? Like, if a team pulls top spawn, they can just sit it out and pick you off as you charge. I've never won a HC TDM from the bottom spawn.
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
December 23 2009 04:21 GMT
#694
On December 23 2009 13:02 number1gog wrote:
I <3 Hardcore. Silenced Intervention + Me = <3

Anyways, who else thinks Terminal is RETARDEDLY one-sided? Like, if a team pulls top spawn, they can just sit it out and pick you off as you charge. I've never won a HC TDM from the bottom spawn.


Terminal can be one-sided until someone pulls the noobtube.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
December 23 2009 05:23 GMT
#695
I can't speak for hardcore since I don't play it, but even in normal matches the team that spawns on top wins a higher percentage of the games for sure. I usually don't even try to go up the stairs into the open area when I spawn bottom. I usually start by going into the plane and working my way from there. I don't usually noobtube, but claymores in the front of the plane can be almost as bad lol.

But yeah, I would say there is at least a solid advantage to spawning top on terminal with teams that are relatively even in skill.
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
December 23 2009 20:05 GMT
#696
Yeah, I've had some success with pushing through the bookstore, but only because it's the least expected of all the routes. If the other team knew you were there (god forbid they have mics and are calling out to each other), it's suicide.

If you can pull off the ninja up-the-gut and disrupt their setup while the rest of the team flanks you can take the top spawn. But having that level of coordination just doesn't happen in pubs.
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Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
December 23 2009 20:36 GMT
#697
Why hardcore is good: Quick aim with any gun will get you the kill, no stupid AR stopping power vs my SMG. Snipers are deadly, because hey lets face it- taking a sniper bullet anywhere is going to kill you / incapacitate you. No radar is really great, and because everyone uses silencers it's tones of fun! Super tactical.

Why hardcore is bad: MW2 is a game where the defender wins. Camping and holding down areas are too easy in MW2 and once you are ahead a good team of players will do just that. Really stupid trying to fight when you cannot possibly hope to clear their contain.
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Card5harko6
Profile Joined December 2008
United States90 Posts
December 23 2009 20:43 GMT
#698
I consider myself pretty good at the cod series including mw2 and I think hc is really easy... Granted playing hc demands a slower, more careful play style which you may argue as being "harder". I keep seeing all these arguments about accuracy being more important in hc!?? that is complete bullshit. Hardcore is all about positioning and getting the jump on your opponent. The regular mode requires much more skill when it comes to accuracy/speed. IMO
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NatsuTerran
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States364 Posts
December 23 2009 21:20 GMT
#699
The trick to spawning Spetsnaz on terminal is not letting the other team control your escalator. Once they do you're screwed, but until then I find it to be fairly balanced. If you want to talk about imbalanced maps, try estate. It literally starts with one team fighting an uphill battle...

As for Hardcore, it doesn't take any more or less skill than core. You have to play more carefully in hardcore, that is all. Someone mentioned that a sniper in hardcore will kill you five times over. That is exactly why people say HC takes no skill. There is no way to counter a good sniper. It places too much emphasis on the defense. Trying to run and gun in hardcore is like playing a low level TvP game, much easier for the opposition. It all depends on what you consider skilled though. I consider skill in a shooter to be the people who run and gun constantly and have dead on aim. I have seen in some killcams of people shooting me in the back to be spraying EVERYWHERE, only to land the kill after missing 12 shots. I can only imagine how much more of that skill-lessness goes on in hardcore where people only need to shoot you once. Overall, I just think it takes more skill to get shot, turn around and own someone after they had the upper hand than to sit around camping and making whoever sees the other first win the battle.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
December 23 2009 21:35 GMT
#700
If you're playing hardcore and don't at least have an idea of where the sniper shot came from, even if you didn't even see the bullet, you suck, period. You also gotta learn to travel in packs. If you see a guy go down ahead of you, just don't rush out like a retard. HC is all about knowing the maps, timing rushes, coming up descretely through flanks...

HC isn't all about camping... people do it more, but you certainly don't win on just camping. Estate isn't half as hard as you guys make it out to be to break. One sniper down low picking window people (you can easily clear out the front steps) and come up from the flanks. It's all patience.
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