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On June 08 2010 22:18 bN` wrote:
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You will learn to love lag as much as it loves you : P

On June 08 2010 23:40 bN` wrote:
Because riskfree 30mil ISK/hour missioning is totally the way to go for eve to not devolve into some lame ass grind fest where people stay in hi sec till they have a carrier.

Oh wait...

On June 05 2010 03:33 MayZerG wrote:
I'm in the I.T. Alliance of Querious, i've mostly been inactive, left the game 3-4 months ago and gave everything i have away.

How big is your alliance? Whats the sov fee every month? how many systems do you control? Also would it be possible to get 200m Isk to start me up if i join so i can run an abaddon and do sanctums to repay it back?

It's irrelevant

If that's how people want to play then that's how they want to play. Low sec is too much of a shitsalad to want to get involved in. The only thing of value in low sec is level 5 missions but again, it's wayyy too easy to scan down people who run them in an RR BS gang.

Besides, all those high sec mission runners are the ones that buy my extra deadspace modules. If that's how they want to play then I have no business telling them otherwise.

There are more than enough people in null sec for me to shoot and kill without problem.

On June 09 2010 05:10 bN` wrote:


Lowsec sucks income wise because hisec is so insanely profitable. the risk/reward ratio is broken to such a degree it's retarded.
Why do anomalies in 0.0 when you get the same income in hisec absolutely risk free(suicide tempest fleets excluded)? With the several nerfs in nullsec complexes that's not as good anymore aswell. Some buddies of mine say you can do 75mil/hour in a wormhole with a small group. Twice and a half much money is a wormhole. A WORMHOLE. It has no local and sleepers are actually decent rats not lol afk guristas.
So really, saying lowsec sucks for isk it's because hi sec is riskfree good money.

On June 09 2010 05:32 Jayme wrote:
First off, 0.0 anomalies are infinitely better. eYou are seriously talking to the wrong person if you want to tell me that high sec missions are better than 0.0 anoms with occasional complexes (just scan them down...). I have done both... a lot... I still do both.. A LOT and I can tell you that on a good week I can pull in 750mil from 0.0 anom/complexes only playing 2-3 hours a day. 10-15 hours of playtime for 750mil.... If I'm paying full attention to level 4 missions I can pull in 45mil/isk an hour and this is from a fully pimped as fuck golem with max/near max skill in every category that matters. I'm talking down to faction TP's and damage mods. Not only is that boring as sin but most people just cannot pull that much money in from mission running because I just do them faster/better. If i'm dual boxing and just running level 4's on autopilot then my income probably drops to about 15-20mil/hr. Again this requires a character with over 90mil SP.

Lowsec sucks for isk because lowsec sucks for isk. I don't know how else to put it. Lowsec has no incentive at all for someone to venture out there. You lose all the benefits of high sec but don't gain rewards of any note from it. You're still better off mining Pyrite in a high sec system than mining in low sec. Even if you move level 4's to low sec people just aren't going to go. Being forced to go to low sec will not work.

It's too easy to scan down someone doing missions so there is no reason to fly my multi billion isk ship into low sec. Just for comparisons sake... I have absolutely no issue flying the same pimped golem in 0.0...Why? Because 0.0 is an order of magnitude safer than low sec, even when I'm in hostile space. That being said I could still die but my income goes up in response to that.

If you are going purely on risk vs reward living in a border .4 system like Rancer should net you 100mil an hour. There is no middle point from .5 to .4. For all intents and purposes you can consider a .4 a null sec system. Make scanning in a .4 harder or something because as it is now is not working.

I am completely against moving level 4 missions from high sec and it's not because it's my only income. It's because those mission runners are providing me (and a whole hell of a lot of null sec pvpers) my isk with which to blow other people up with. Low sec is a waste land and until it gets a huge revamp it will stay that way.

For someone like me, all moving level 4 missions to low sec will do is make me live in null sec permanently. For someone not like me? They'll just quit.

On June 09 2010 07:18 bN` wrote:
You can post numbers here all day long. I've never done any ratting ever, yet from reading missions and complexes forum from time to time and seeing posts about how someone can make 70mil/h in a golem in hisec tips me off a bit. You could just say they're pullingnumbers out their ass, but then again same can be said for you.
Either way anecdotal evidence is not evidence.
Here's the thing. When someone jumps into a system when you're missioning in hi sec: do you notice? You do maybe, if you're at war.
When someone jumps into your system in 0.0 and you're in an anomaly ratting in your pimped golem what do you do? See here it gets tricky. He could jump in somewhere where he's not in scan range, he could be cloaked, he could be really good at probing OR he doesn't even need to be because anomalies always! spawn within onboard scanner range of a planet.
What's your reaction? Do you warp to a safe pos? Do you keep on going and risk it? Maybe he's got a giant hardon for golem pilots and getting juicy ratter kills. So he adds you to friends and logs in his prober alt everytime you log on. He probably has friends too and his friends sure like 'em golem kills.
So it's down to you. Say fuck it and potentially lose a 2bil golem or safe up. Say you safe up. How long do you stay in a safe? 15mins, half hour? Do you log off? What if he logs back in when you log back in? You're losing time.
Time that you could be spending doing carefree missions in hi sec.

Oh and I almost forgot. Do you give a fuck when a rat tackles you in hi sec? Because I would if it tackled me in 0.0. With darkside living 5jumps away you never know when creamster is gonna come frapsing for his new video.

So let's say your numbers are right. Do you wanna go through all that trouble and do anomalies in 0.0 just for the sake of 5-30mil more an hour? In a faction pimped golem? Doesn't sound like a good reward for having balls that big.