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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 27 2011 13:22 GMT
#13201
Gallente has only few useful ships.
Arazu/lachesis for nano longrange pointing and Proteus for heavy armor tackle and Thanatos/Nyx for dps.
Every other ship you see flown is because people want to be "different" and cool.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 13:25:34
June 27 2011 13:25 GMT
#13202
Lach is a decent ewar boat in its own right too, those damps can be brutal. But yeah, Gallente's lineup is pretty much mediocre, narrower than Caldari's (which is also pretty shit) without the Caldari bonus of the few ships it has being broken.
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Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
June 27 2011 13:28 GMT
#13203
On June 27 2011 22:25 KwarK wrote:
Lach is a decent ewar boat in its own right too, those damps can be brutal. But yeah, Gallente's lineup is pretty much mediocre, narrower than Caldari's (which is also pretty shit) without the Caldari bonus of the few ships it has being broken.


So you would recommend training more into Amarr/Minmatar atm? I know that Amarr would benefit more from my armour tank skills but Minmatar have their fair share of ships that can armour tank correct?
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#13204
On June 27 2011 22:28 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:25 KwarK wrote:
Lach is a decent ewar boat in its own right too, those damps can be brutal. But yeah, Gallente's lineup is pretty much mediocre, narrower than Caldari's (which is also pretty shit) without the Caldari bonus of the few ships it has being broken.


So you would recommend training more into Amarr/Minmatar atm? I know that Amarr would benefit more from my armour tank skills but Minmatar have their fair share of ships that can armour tank correct?

The Amarr ships we run are given a shield tank for the agility, speed, and damage that yields.

There are very very few armor tanked ships we would bring with us. And when you fly nano ships like we do, you'll understand, and you'll feel so vulnerable and exposed in armor ships.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
June 27 2011 13:47 GMT
#13205
On June 27 2011 22:22 Warri wrote:
Gallente has only few useful ships.
Arazu/lachesis for nano longrange pointing and Proteus for heavy armor tackle and Thanatos/Nyx for dps.
Every other ship you see flown is because people want to be "different" and cool.


the taranis/ishkur/enyo and angel cartel would like to have a word with you.


also, when it comes to gallente you really shouldnt listen too much to the advise of people in hatch, yes they are extremely futile in our fleets, but people really hate them mainly because 99% of the people in corp are shitscared to commit to a fight.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43960 Posts
June 27 2011 13:53 GMT
#13206
On June 27 2011 22:47 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:22 Warri wrote:
Gallente has only few useful ships.
Arazu/lachesis for nano longrange pointing and Proteus for heavy armor tackle and Thanatos/Nyx for dps.
Every other ship you see flown is because people want to be "different" and cool.


the taranis/ishkur/enyo and angel cartel would like to have a word with you.


also, when it comes to gallente you really shouldnt listen too much to the advise of people in hatch, yes they are extremely futile in our fleets, but people really hate them mainly because 99% of the people in corp are shitscared to commit to a fight.

I'll commit to a fight if I've scouted them out and I'm 100% sure that we have more shit and can escalate beyond them, armour tank style. But it's not fun, it's completely pointless, just some guy donating you his mods. My problem with committing to a fight is that pilot skill is out of the equation, the winner is predetermined and the only reason the fight is even happening is that one side doesn't know that it's not going to be them (because you hid your fleet out of local etc). The beauty of nanoing is that you can attack pretty much anything and be fine because of pilot skill. The Hatchery has pretty limited ability to escalate so committing to fights is simply a bad idea.

Also the angel cartel use projectiles which aren't terrible. It goes without saying they're exempt from the default Gallente suck.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 14:38:00
June 27 2011 14:37 GMT
#13207
On June 27 2011 22:47 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:22 Warri wrote:
Gallente has only few useful ships.
Arazu/lachesis for nano longrange pointing and Proteus for heavy armor tackle and Thanatos/Nyx for dps.
Every other ship you see flown is because people want to be "different" and cool.


the taranis/ishkur/enyo and angel cartel would like to have a word with you.


also, when it comes to gallente you really shouldnt listen too much to the advise of people in hatch, yes they are extremely futile in our fleets, but people really hate them mainly because 99% of the people in corp are shitscared to commit to a fight.


properly flown hookbills want to have a word with them.
and dont count angel ships as gallente please~~

also you should know by now that im familiar with armor fleets :p
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
June 27 2011 15:25 GMT
#13208
On June 27 2011 22:28 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:25 KwarK wrote:
Lach is a decent ewar boat in its own right too, those damps can be brutal. But yeah, Gallente's lineup is pretty much mediocre, narrower than Caldari's (which is also pretty shit) without the Caldari bonus of the few ships it has being broken.


So you would recommend training more into Amarr/Minmatar atm? I know that Amarr would benefit more from my armour tank skills but Minmatar have their fair share of ships that can armour tank correct?


Better option might even be to just auction your character off on eve forums and buy a different race one instead. There are alot of really stupid deals to be made on those forums if you are keen enough to look around frequently.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
June 27 2011 15:26 GMT
#13209
On June 27 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:12 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

What would you use an oneiros for? It simply produces less reps than guardians (paired for cap stability). If you're in a blob then nothing compares to guardians/basilisks for pure RR volume and if mobility is an issue then you're shield tanked and using a scimitar. The ship just doesn't do anything.
By the way, they're 96 million in Jita and 15 sold in the last 24 hours. By comparison the guardian is 120 million and sold over 50. It's not just us, it's the ship.


Eccm projection. Some groups fly pods of 4 ships. 2 oneiros and 2 guardians. Guardians cap up each other and one oneiros and the oneiros projects eccm onto whatever ships you'd prefer not to have jammed. It may not have the repping power of 4 guardians but it adds a little versatility and gives a role to the oneiros. With this kind of setup you lose a large rr for a medium one and gain an eccm slot.

Theres arguments for and against and its up to whoever leads the fleet to decide if they want to lose a bit of rep strength for unjammed ship potential.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 18:43:08
June 27 2011 18:36 GMT
#13210
Electronic Attack Ship starting tomorrow, then my Sentinel, you will arise.

Mwahahahaa. Gonna kill drams.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
ChinaRestaurant
Profile Joined May 2008
Austria324 Posts
June 27 2011 18:52 GMT
#13211
On June 28 2011 03:36 Body_Shield wrote:
Electronic Attack Ship starting tomorrow, then my Sentinel, you will arise.

Mwahahahaa. Gonna kill drams.


Dont make mistakes with that thing tho, ive flown a few and theyre thinner than paper.
SPAAAAAAACE
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 27 2011 18:59 GMT
#13212
On June 28 2011 00:26 Deja Thoris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:12 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

What would you use an oneiros for? It simply produces less reps than guardians (paired for cap stability). If you're in a blob then nothing compares to guardians/basilisks for pure RR volume and if mobility is an issue then you're shield tanked and using a scimitar. The ship just doesn't do anything.
By the way, they're 96 million in Jita and 15 sold in the last 24 hours. By comparison the guardian is 120 million and sold over 50. It's not just us, it's the ship.


Eccm projection. Some groups fly pods of 4 ships. 2 oneiros and 2 guardians. Guardians cap up each other and one oneiros and the oneiros projects eccm onto whatever ships you'd prefer not to have jammed. It may not have the repping power of 4 guardians but it adds a little versatility and gives a role to the oneiros. With this kind of setup you lose a large rr for a medium one and gain an eccm slot.

Theres arguments for and against and its up to whoever leads the fleet to decide if they want to lose a bit of rep strength for unjammed ship potential.


I fly my guardians with an projected eccm. I always assumed the standard guard fit had one...
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#13213
On June 28 2011 03:52 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 03:36 Body_Shield wrote:
Electronic Attack Ship starting tomorrow, then my Sentinel, you will arise.

Mwahahahaa. Gonna kill drams.


Dont make mistakes with that thing tho, ive flown a few and theyre thinner than paper.

You can get 4.5k ehp on it, but yeah screw up and you'll be dead.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
June 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#13214
On June 28 2011 03:59 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 00:26 Deja Thoris wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:12 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

What would you use an oneiros for? It simply produces less reps than guardians (paired for cap stability). If you're in a blob then nothing compares to guardians/basilisks for pure RR volume and if mobility is an issue then you're shield tanked and using a scimitar. The ship just doesn't do anything.
By the way, they're 96 million in Jita and 15 sold in the last 24 hours. By comparison the guardian is 120 million and sold over 50. It's not just us, it's the ship.


Eccm projection. Some groups fly pods of 4 ships. 2 oneiros and 2 guardians. Guardians cap up each other and one oneiros and the oneiros projects eccm onto whatever ships you'd prefer not to have jammed. It may not have the repping power of 4 guardians but it adds a little versatility and gives a role to the oneiros. With this kind of setup you lose a large rr for a medium one and gain an eccm slot.

Theres arguments for and against and its up to whoever leads the fleet to decide if they want to lose a bit of rep strength for unjammed ship potential.


I fly my guardians with an projected eccm. I always assumed the standard guard fit had one...


I probably worded badly, not a self eccm, an remote eccm projector. cast it on other ships to increase their signal strength.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 19:21:32
June 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#13215
Flawless OP 100% efficiency perfect victory
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
June 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#13216
Hey guys, I recently read this blog. I found the EVE entries to be particularly awesome, simply because of the scope of the game's economy. It left me wondering how a bank in a world such as this can collect on what's owed. I'm aware there is a bounty system, are there people who will kill players and repossess their items?
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 27 2011 19:24 GMT
#13217
The trick is not to lend anything to anyone unless you have an external mechanism to punish them.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#13218
On June 28 2011 04:24 Body_Shield wrote:
The trick is not to lend anything to anyone unless you have an external mechanism to punish them.


Just don't lend away stuff you can't afford to lose if the person turns out to be a scoundrel.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
June 27 2011 19:50 GMT
#13219
On June 28 2011 04:21 Misanthrope wrote:
Hey guys, I recently read this blog. I found the EVE entries to be particularly awesome, simply because of the scope of the game's economy. It left me wondering how a bank in a world such as this can collect on what's owed. I'm aware there is a bounty system, are there people who will kill players and repossess their items?


Short answer is it can't. There are no game mechanics that cater for it. Most "banks" are really investment type places taking your ingame currency and offering a return (then they all elope with the money once the sums become juicy enough )
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
June 27 2011 20:02 GMT
#13220
That's unfortunate. Seems Ponzi schemes would run rampant and consumer trust would be virtually non-existant. Assuming it already is, that's much to the credit of those who continue to pull it off. Social engineering FTW I suppose.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
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