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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 27 2011 08:21 GMT
#13181
So Ka'el spots a "missioning drake" in Atlar on the late night, so I decide to go have a look. Helo is a new guy and eager for some action so we have 2bcs + rifter ready. I hop in and notice that the drake is self named, on a belt. Well... I haven't had the best luck with fighting on an asteroid belt the past couple night, so I point out that this is DAMN fishy (learn from dieing right?~!). I see which belt hes on while the 3 of us hang on atlar gate. I check out Gelf and see that nothing is around. Alright whatever, we send the rifter in to go for a point. Ka'el decides to jump in with the rifter but maybe for the best. At this point Oddelulf local goes up by a couple, so I'm telling them to just get clear, a Falcon decloaks next to me and points me on the gate. Uh, ok ? lol I jump through the gate and safe up in Atlar. I send my alt to check atlar gate... Rapier, rook, falcon, drake x3 ;o

No losses, but yea... Fuck asteroid belts.

Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
June 27 2011 08:41 GMT
#13182
I used to play this and was around 15m SP when I left with some really nice gallente and drone skills. I hate to see that you've put "gallente are useless" but this makes me reconsider playing again.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 09:07:34
June 27 2011 09:06 GMT
#13183
On June 27 2011 17:41 Firesilver wrote:
I used to play this and was around 15m SP when I left with some really nice gallente and drone skills. I hate to see that you've put "gallente are useless" but this makes me reconsider playing again.


Well my main character isn't even a month in, but you should realize by now what is meant by useless. Gallente ships are sub-optimal for hatchery purposes. By no means are they useless in other areas, just you'll be sitting around with alot of 'wasted' skills like gallente spaceship or those gunnery skills if you'd be flying in the corp.

I'm happy it's written there, in retrospect chosing minnie and beeing able to fly a rifter fast is awesome.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
June 27 2011 09:20 GMT
#13184
On June 27 2011 18:06 banana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 17:41 Firesilver wrote:
I used to play this and was around 15m SP when I left with some really nice gallente and drone skills. I hate to see that you've put "gallente are useless" but this makes me reconsider playing again.


Well my main character isn't even a month in, but you should realize by now what is meant by useless. Gallente ships are sub-optimal for hatchery purposes. By no means are they useless in other areas, just you'll be sitting around with alot of 'wasted' skills like gallente spaceship or those gunnery skills if you'd be flying in the corp.

I'm happy it's written there, in retrospect chosing minnie and beeing able to fly a rifter fast is awesome.


I understand they'd be sub-optimal but still, claiming they are worthless is too much. Might take a look into training more into amarr as I already have a few M SP invested in there.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
June 27 2011 09:30 GMT
#13185
Amarr isn't really ideal for Hatchery as well unless you're content flying shield harbs. I suppose you could go for zealots and curses too though.
Moderator
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 27 2011 10:45 GMT
#13186
Kwark said he likes Gallente interceptors or something at some point. The Myrm is pretty good at nanoing with really good nav skills, snakes, and links. As Suliman has shown me. Also, sensor damps are fun.

Saving grace for the Harb is the drone bay: EC-600's = win every fight against BC's all day man.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
June 27 2011 10:50 GMT
#13187
We like Gallente recons, not much else.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 27 2011 10:53 GMT
#13188
Blasters are just really, really bad except in frigate fights and when you have 6 webs on the target (ie battleship fights). Neither are especially relevant to lowsec pvp.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 11:10:05
June 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#13189
We also apparently like Thanatos's.

I wish Harbs had 4% more speed, and a 5km increase on laser range. But then Zealots would have to be nerfed to keep the range the same.

Blasters should have way better tracking, and reduced damage to match. Rail guns should fire like twice as fast. I don't know.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#13190
But not grammar.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 27 2011 11:10 GMT
#13191
On June 27 2011 20:09 KwarK wrote:
But not grammar.

Hatchery prerequisite.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 11:23:11
June 27 2011 11:20 GMT
#13192
Interesting, I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm with you guys if I was to get accepted. What space do you guys mainly operate in? I can't remember where I was but I was with IT Alliance before I left.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 11:26:07
June 27 2011 11:25 GMT
#13193
I can tell you right now that you'll be starting in a frigate if you join us. Everyone does. I don't hate an automyrm shield tanked in nanogangs because of that drone bay but I don't really love it either. We mainly operate in molden heath lowsec, basing out of Odde.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
June 27 2011 12:27 GMT
#13194
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 or your logi skills are shit.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 27 2011 12:53 GMT
#13195
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 13:08:57
June 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#13196
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 27 2011 13:09 GMT
#13197
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 13:14:53
June 27 2011 13:12 GMT
#13198
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

Wishing I re-rolled Minmatar now, lol.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
June 27 2011 13:15 GMT
#13199
On June 27 2011 22:12 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

What would you use an oneiros for? It simply produces less reps than guardians (paired for cap stability). If you're in a blob then nothing compares to guardians/basilisks for pure RR volume and if mobility is an issue then you're shield tanked and using a scimitar. The ship just doesn't do anything.
By the way, they're 96 million in Jita and 15 sold in the last 24 hours. By comparison the guardian is 120 million and sold over 50. It's not just us, it's the ship.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
June 27 2011 13:18 GMT
#13200
On June 27 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 22:12 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:09 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 22:08 Firesilver wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:53 KwarK wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:27 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2011 20:20 Firesilver wrote:
I had some decent logi skills so I might re-activate my account and try fly a myrm

I'm so confused....

Also, either you have Logi 5 and any cruiser V but gallente or your logi skills are shit.

fixed


Lol, Gallente support is fine. Myrms support is fine, especially when I was using it with a BC/HAC squad which is armour tanking.

And logi 5 is obviously awesome to have.

The oneiros has no role in any gang. Guardians for armour, basilisk for shield, scimitars for nano.


Wow, did gallente get suddenly shit since I stopped playing? or does everyone just hate gallente for some reason?

What would you use an oneiros for? It simply produces less reps than guardians (paired for cap stability). If you're in a blob then nothing compares to guardians/basilisks for pure RR volume and if mobility is an issue then you're shield tanked and using a scimitar. The ship just doesn't do anything.
By the way, they're 96 million in Jita and 15 sold in the last 24 hours. By comparison the guardian is 120 million and sold over 50. It's not just us, it's the ship.


Ah I see, awful shame to see it's totally unused, I was aiming to get one before I left.

Looks like I'll have to invest into another race's cruiser skill more if I want to go down that path then. The other skills wont matter because they work regardless.

Thanks for warning before I keep training towards it though.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
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