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Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
June 03 2011 18:29 GMT
#12001
I havent been able to get on since I recently moved and im missing all the good kills! Currently I am attempting to download the newest patch for eve but Im at a starbucks and the internet here is....well.....extreamly slow. Hopefully I can get my internet back up soon and actually get on some of these killmails.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
June 03 2011 18:29 GMT
#12002
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9843636

I PRESENT TO YOU

THE MYRMICANE

(sfi's are awesome)
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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
June 03 2011 18:32 GMT
#12003
On June 04 2011 03:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9843636

I PRESENT TO YOU

THE MYRMICANE

(sfi's are awesome)



At what?
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 03 2011 18:35 GMT
#12004
Sounds like fun...I'm going to be away this weekend
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
June 03 2011 18:37 GMT
#12005
Even if he wasnt using hail that fit still doesnt work. Your forced to use barrage no matter what because of your lack of tracking enhancers. It is interesting though, ill give it that.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 03 2011 18:39 GMT
#12006
I have 41 Gistii B-type 1mn MWD's I am setting them for 12/13mil is anyone here interested?
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
June 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#12007
I will buy all 41 for 12/13ths of a million.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 03 2011 18:47 GMT
#12008
the 1mn's are 12mil / 13mil a piece nice try tofu
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 03 2011 18:47 GMT
#12009
On June 04 2011 03:29 abominare wrote:
Ewwww I had to look at a shield myrm, should post warning.


Also what exactly is the point of an SFI? I dont understand that fit or really the use of that ship at all.


It fulfills the heavy tackler role alongside the proteus in AHAC gangs. Its also kind of like the training wheel ship for flying the cynabals and vagas, though the dps/tank is a little lacking. SFI is to Cynabal as a Taranis is to a Dramiel.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 19:02:17
June 03 2011 19:00 GMT
#12010
I eft'd that myrmicane, it's actually not that bad at what it's trying to do. I replaced 1 gyro and the DCU with with 2 TE's though to give it the same gun range as a cane.

It's speed is 100m/s slower than a cane, but 100m/s faster than a drake, and aligns faster than both. Assuming valkyries and barrage (so same optimal/falloff), it has 456 dps which is only 50dps less than a cane, but you get the bonus of being able to switch drones at will (you can carry 5x vespa 600's, 5x hornet 300's, 5x hammerheads and 5x warriors all at the same time). You get 1k less ehp than the cane.

If you switch out 1 te for a dcu and thus have 2x gyro's, 1 DCU, 2 nano's and 1 TE in the lows, you lose a considerable amount of range (from 3.9+30 to 3.5+25km) but you gain 12k ehp to easily trump the cane (myrm has 56k to cane's 47k EHP).

Now I'm not at all advocating this myrm for nanoing - I'm still pretty sure a nanodrake/cane is much better at the jobs we need to do. Plus it doesn't have neuts which are a big reason we bring canes and not just drakes. But it's just interesting to know that the myrm is a pretty damn versatile ship.
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 03 2011 19:04 GMT
#12011
Being able to switch between dps and ECM drones is really really good. A Harb can carry 5 warrior 2s and 5 ec-300s.

Myrms are silly.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
June 03 2011 19:05 GMT
#12012
On June 04 2011 03:47 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 03:29 abominare wrote:
Ewwww I had to look at a shield myrm, should post warning.


Also what exactly is the point of an SFI? I dont understand that fit or really the use of that ship at all.


It fulfills the heavy tackler role alongside the proteus in AHAC gangs. Its also kind of like the training wheel ship for flying the cynabals and vagas, though the dps/tank is a little lacking. SFI is to Cynabal as a Taranis is to a Dramiel.



an sfi flies completely different than a vaga and even more a cyna, an sfi cannot do what a vaga/cyna does because it has nearly a third of the range.

I do kinda get the heavy tackle aspect.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44113 Posts
June 03 2011 19:07 GMT
#12013
On June 04 2011 04:04 Body_Shield wrote:
Being able to switch between dps and ECM drones is really really good. A Harb can carry 5 warrior 2s and 5 ec-300s.

Myrms are silly.

I love ec-600s in small gang bc fights. They're lame as fuck.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
June 03 2011 19:08 GMT
#12014
On June 04 2011 03:47 Ramiel wrote:
the 1mn's are 12mil / 13mil a piece nice try tofu

You drive a hard bargain. I will buy all of them for 0.92 isk each.
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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
June 03 2011 19:10 GMT
#12015
On June 04 2011 04:00 Firebolt145 wrote:
I eft'd that myrmicane, it's actually not that bad at what it's trying to do. I replaced 1 gyro and the DCU with with 2 TE's though to give it the same gun range as a cane.

It's speed is 100m/s slower than a cane, but 100m/s faster than a drake, and aligns faster than both. Assuming valkyries and barrage (so same optimal/falloff), it has 456 dps which is only 50dps less than a cane, but you get the bonus of being able to switch drones at will (you can carry 5x vespa 600's, 5x hornet 300's, 5x hammerheads and 5x warriors all at the same time). You get 1k less ehp than the cane.

If you switch out 1 te for a dcu and thus have 2x gyro's, 1 DCU, 2 nano's and 1 TE in the lows, you lose a considerable amount of range (from 3.9+30 to 3.5+25km) but you gain 12k ehp to easily trump the cane (myrm has 56k to cane's 47k EHP).

Now I'm not at all advocating this myrm for nanoing - I'm still pretty sure a nanodrake/cane is much better at the jobs we need to do. Plus it doesn't have neuts which are a big reason we bring canes and not just drakes. But it's just interesting to know that the myrm is a pretty damn versatile ship.


Neuts are important, very important. If youre going to fly a shield myrm with acs theres a point you realize your only like 5 days away from a cane anyways.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 03 2011 19:10 GMT
#12016
On June 04 2011 04:07 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 04:04 Body_Shield wrote:
Being able to switch between dps and ECM drones is really really good. A Harb can carry 5 warrior 2s and 5 ec-300s.

Myrms are silly.

I love ec-600s in small gang bc fights. They're lame as fuck.

That's why I equip them in my harb, just for you Kwark.

I'm pretty sure that's how we smashed those 6 bc's last night so easily, my ec-600s perma jammed 3 canes in a row.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 03 2011 19:10 GMT
#12017
1isk and we have a deal
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
June 03 2011 19:12 GMT
#12018
Got bored and decided to do a ring around MH. Got to Skarkon and noticed a gang of 4 Drakes, 4 Canes, 3 Harbs, Absoloution, Tengu and Dramiel were a jump behind me. They then went into B-VIP from Egbinger, so I carried on my way looking for easy target's in my rifter. Jumping from Aedald into Heild.. Massive E-Uni Blob, tried to warp out, no chance. Bye bye rifter. We debate going after them, but with only 3bc's and a few rifter's online it'd be quite futile.

http://i54.tinypic.com/20kxk7q.png
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 03 2011 19:14 GMT
#12019
On June 04 2011 04:05 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 03:47 pahndah wrote:
On June 04 2011 03:29 abominare wrote:
Ewwww I had to look at a shield myrm, should post warning.


Also what exactly is the point of an SFI? I dont understand that fit or really the use of that ship at all.


It fulfills the heavy tackler role alongside the proteus in AHAC gangs. Its also kind of like the training wheel ship for flying the cynabals and vagas, though the dps/tank is a little lacking. SFI is to Cynabal as a Taranis is to a Dramiel.



an sfi flies completely different than a vaga and even more a cyna, an sfi cannot do what a vaga/cyna does because it has nearly a third of the range.

I do kinda get the heavy tackle aspect.


Didn't quite say the range was a shortfall specifically, but sure, that's a decent point and like I said, the dps/tank is lacking. It can't kite and kill things that are are bigger than it like the other two, but it'll still eat up frigates and anything smaller than similar to how the the vaga and cyna would do the same. I don't think its fair to call it flying completely different than the vaga and cyna...that seems a bit of a stretch to me.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
June 03 2011 19:16 GMT
#12020
On June 04 2011 04:10 Ramiel wrote:
1isk and we have a deal

1 isk for 41 Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarp Drives

Deal
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