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Viceorvirtue
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
I PRESENT TO YOU THE MYRMICANE (sfi's are awesome) | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:29 Firebolt145 wrote: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9843636 I PRESENT TO YOU THE MYRMICANE (sfi's are awesome) At what? | ||
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Body_Shield
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Viceorvirtue
United States273 Posts
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19264 Posts
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
 nice try tofu | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:29 abominare wrote: Ewwww I had to look at a shield myrm, should post warning. Also what exactly is the point of an SFI? I dont understand that fit or really the use of that ship at all. It fulfills the heavy tackler role alongside the proteus in AHAC gangs. Its also kind of like the training wheel ship for flying the cynabals and vagas, though the dps/tank is a little lacking. SFI is to Cynabal as a Taranis is to a Dramiel. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
It's speed is 100m/s slower than a cane, but 100m/s faster than a drake, and aligns faster than both. Assuming valkyries and barrage (so same optimal/falloff), it has 456 dps which is only 50dps less than a cane, but you get the bonus of being able to switch drones at will (you can carry 5x vespa 600's, 5x hornet 300's, 5x hammerheads and 5x warriors all at the same time). You get 1k less ehp than the cane. If you switch out 1 te for a dcu and thus have 2x gyro's, 1 DCU, 2 nano's and 1 TE in the lows, you lose a considerable amount of range (from 3.9+30 to 3.5+25km) but you gain 12k ehp to easily trump the cane (myrm has 56k to cane's 47k EHP). Now I'm not at all advocating this myrm for nanoing - I'm still pretty sure a nanodrake/cane is much better at the jobs we need to do. Plus it doesn't have neuts which are a big reason we bring canes and not just drakes. But it's just interesting to know that the myrm is a pretty damn versatile ship. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3373 Posts
Myrms are silly. | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:47 pahndah wrote: It fulfills the heavy tackler role alongside the proteus in AHAC gangs. Its also kind of like the training wheel ship for flying the cynabals and vagas, though the dps/tank is a little lacking. SFI is to Cynabal as a Taranis is to a Dramiel. an sfi flies completely different than a vaga and even more a cyna, an sfi cannot do what a vaga/cyna does because it has nearly a third of the range. I do kinda get the heavy tackle aspect. | ||
KwarK
United States44397 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:04 Body_Shield wrote: Being able to switch between dps and ECM drones is really really good. A Harb can carry 5 warrior 2s and 5 ec-300s. Myrms are silly. I love ec-600s in small gang bc fights. They're lame as fuck. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19264 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:47 Ramiel wrote: the 1mn's are 12mil / 13mil a piece nice try tofuYou drive a hard bargain. I will buy all of them for 0.92 isk each. | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:00 Firebolt145 wrote: I eft'd that myrmicane, it's actually not that bad at what it's trying to do. I replaced 1 gyro and the DCU with with 2 TE's though to give it the same gun range as a cane. It's speed is 100m/s slower than a cane, but 100m/s faster than a drake, and aligns faster than both. Assuming valkyries and barrage (so same optimal/falloff), it has 456 dps which is only 50dps less than a cane, but you get the bonus of being able to switch drones at will (you can carry 5x vespa 600's, 5x hornet 300's, 5x hammerheads and 5x warriors all at the same time). You get 1k less ehp than the cane. If you switch out 1 te for a dcu and thus have 2x gyro's, 1 DCU, 2 nano's and 1 TE in the lows, you lose a considerable amount of range (from 3.9+30 to 3.5+25km) but you gain 12k ehp to easily trump the cane (myrm has 56k to cane's 47k EHP). Now I'm not at all advocating this myrm for nanoing - I'm still pretty sure a nanodrake/cane is much better at the jobs we need to do. Plus it doesn't have neuts which are a big reason we bring canes and not just drakes. But it's just interesting to know that the myrm is a pretty damn versatile ship. Neuts are important, very important. If youre going to fly a shield myrm with acs theres a point you realize your only like 5 days away from a cane anyways. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3373 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:07 KwarK wrote: I love ec-600s in small gang bc fights. They're lame as fuck. That's why I equip them in my harb, just for you Kwark. I'm pretty sure that's how we smashed those 6 bc's last night so easily, my ec-600s perma jammed 3 canes in a row. | ||
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Ramiel
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
http://i54.tinypic.com/20kxk7q.png | ||
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pahndah
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On June 04 2011 04:05 abominare wrote: an sfi flies completely different than a vaga and even more a cyna, an sfi cannot do what a vaga/cyna does because it has nearly a third of the range. I do kinda get the heavy tackle aspect. Didn't quite say the range was a shortfall specifically, but sure, that's a decent point and like I said, the dps/tank is lacking. It can't kite and kill things that are are bigger than it like the other two, but it'll still eat up frigates and anything smaller than similar to how the the vaga and cyna would do the same. I don't think its fair to call it flying completely different than the vaga and cyna...that seems a bit of a stretch to me. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19264 Posts
On June 04 2011 04:10 Ramiel wrote: 1isk and we have a deal 1 isk for 41 Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarp Drives Deal | ||
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