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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 15:27:49
January 14 2010 15:27 GMT
#1001
Maybe, but even training basic learnings from III to IV takes 18+ hours each which seems kinda extreme for me now.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 15:53:24
January 14 2010 15:46 GMT
#1002
Than after 2-3 months, you'll wish that all level V skills took 10 days max and be happy with it.

Ninja Edit: For the costs of the advanced books ask in SCBW for isk help. Believe me, you'll be happy you trained the learning stuff. If nothing else, just set the skills training and go about your life as if EvE didn't exist (minus setting next skill to train) for a week or so. No need to force yourself to get into EvE so fast when the beginning IS boring if you want to set up a good character foundation. Fun ramps up once you get a good set of core skills though.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 16:14:33
January 14 2010 16:13 GMT
#1003
Hmm... You might have a point there. I guess I'll just wait another 20hrs for all the stuff I want to finish first so I'm good to fly around and do the missions (not to mention getting 2-3 more certificates, if they mean something) and then switch to finishing all the learning.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
January 14 2010 16:20 GMT
#1004
On January 14 2010 23:17 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2009 09:08 r.Evo wrote:
Within the next days we're going to move to the 0.0 space the alliance is based in and start kicking the shit out of other peoples backyards. Roaming gangs 23/7. This also means that we have to upgrade recruitment minimum for guys from TL to not make them be lost in 0.0 from the start.

New requirements will be:
-Basic (x1) and advanced learnings (x3) to IV (no need for charisma skill here)
-Hull Upgrades IV
-High Speed Maneuvering III
-Propulsion Jamming III
-Racial Frigate Skill to IV (NOT depending on which race your character was at the start)

These skills should take about 2 weeks total. Sign up before you want to play (also PM ppl posting in here from the corp for 21 day trials, helps both you and us)

Some random crap which makes you do okay in the racial frig of your choice (e.g. to fit nos / small armor repper on a rifter)


After playing EVE for a couple of days now I hardly see this demands being realistic for new players to reach within 2 weeks. Especially the advanced learnings which cost 4.5mil/skill and to get all that in time you have to forgo some of the stuff that helps you run the missions (and thus get cash for the advanced skills). Not to mention that learning learning is utterely boring and useless from a newbie view (at least mine). Why should I bother getting all of this learning so high in the beginning when I can do it later, when skills start to take really long to train and for now I'm happy learning my missile operations/missile bombardment etc. higher.



It's actually not that hard at all to do within 2 weeks. Sure, you won't be in a cruiser or anything blasting crap away, but for tackling, it's pretty basic and easy to get all that up. It's boring yeah, but that's how most games are at the start. If money's the main issue: start doing the epic arc missions. 100k-200k per mission base+whatever you get in time bonus. And they're stupidly easy. If you get to a point where you're stuck in the arc [I'm still at Burning Down the Hive, haven't bothered to try it again after I lost like 2 destroyers], then go to the eve agent finder and find some level 1 missions and just grind them or find a good hub and do them. It may be boring at the start, but it's rather relaxing and quick to do, and you get some very nice money from the missions+salvage from all the wrecks [assuming you do kill type missions]. I'm not even a month into the game, and I funded my current character with all the advanced learnings [except charisma], and I funded a second character that I'm training up to be a simple mission/ratting bot with all his advanced learning skills; and I only touched that second character to move him closer to my main so it's easier for me if I get an item and want to contract it to him. It's really not that hard at all.
In DotA you could
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
January 14 2010 17:09 GMT
#1005
Hmm... Where/how do you start this epic arc as a Caldari?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 14 2010 18:01 GMT
#1006
I (like a lot of us did when we started out as the first TL wave) tried to avoid learnings to IV as long as possible. Result was that learningfags like KwarK (sup?) had a sick advantage in terms of SP after a few months.

And we were still like "durr.... 3 days..... durr...... must get.... new spaceship...."

Do it asap, you won't regret it if the general eve concept is appealing to you. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Dexxus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States329 Posts
January 14 2010 18:04 GMT
#1007
On January 14 2010 23:15 WiljushkA wrote:
del doesnt have an accent ._.

and is actually useful


At least they don't claim to be useful in PvP and lose expensive ships like some people we all know...

Also, REVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'S COMING BACK!!!!
I need a signature so I'm using this one.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 14 2010 18:07 GMT
#1008
THE BAND'S GETTING BACK TOGETHER

+ Show Spoiler +
EXCEPT ME


hey I don't remember who I gave my trade route secrets out to. Does anyone know if they're still running it?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 14 2010 18:17 GMT
#1009
On January 15 2010 03:07 motbob wrote:
THE BAND'S GETTING BACK TOGETHER

+ Show Spoiler +
EXCEPT ME


hey I don't remember who I gave my trade route secrets out to. Does anyone know if they're still running it?


It's not. CCP > My mainaccount and I believe del and bormac are still slacking off. So are you.


YOU HAD TRADE ROUTE SECRETS AND DIDN'T TELL ME?!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 14 2010 18:17 GMT
#1010
On January 15 2010 03:04 Dexxus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 23:15 WiljushkA wrote:
del doesnt have an accent ._.

and is actually useful


At least they don't claim to be useful in PvP and lose expensive ships like some people we all know...

Also, REVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'S COMING BACK!!!!



How expensive are vagas nowadays btw? ^_^
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
January 14 2010 18:37 GMT
#1011
del and bormy were both online last night :p
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
January 14 2010 18:48 GMT
#1012
On January 15 2010 02:09 Manit0u wrote:
Hmm... Where/how do you start this epic arc as a Caldari?


if you completed a training arc, then the agent should guve you the location of the sisters of eve bureau where you can get it. If you can't remember where, look at your People & places tab on your neocom.
In DotA you could
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 19:26:50
January 14 2010 19:16 GMT
#1013
On January 15 2010 03:17 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 03:07 motbob wrote:
THE BAND'S GETTING BACK TOGETHER

+ Show Spoiler +
EXCEPT ME


hey I don't remember who I gave my trade route secrets out to. Does anyone know if they're still running it?


It's not. CCP > My mainaccount and I believe del and bormac are still slacking off. So are you.


YOU HAD TRADE ROUTE SECRETS AND DIDN'T TELL ME?!

well... you left, so I guess I unconsciously made the right decision
ModeratorGood content always wins.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 14 2010 20:30 GMT
#1014
Oh yeah here's a good story.

3 months ago

Vil: Oh yeah Kizu, make sure you get support skills cause they are cool and stuff and you need it for fitting
Kizu: But what about perception/int remap. I get pewpew guns and can fly ships
Vil: No, int/mem is what you want.
Kizu:...you sure?
Vil: Yes

3+ months pass. I STILL don't have T2 of any weapons, not even small pulses.

Vil's words of wisdom.













...Bastard
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 14 2010 20:32 GMT
#1015
he was right
ModeratorGood content always wins.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 14 2010 20:33 GMT
#1016
Yeah....no
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 14 2010 20:34 GMT
#1017
you'll thank him later. I assume you're getting learning skills?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 14 2010 20:36 GMT
#1018
Actually, you probably should have rolled a character with high int/mem, gotten learning, and then remapped
ModeratorGood content always wins.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 14 2010 20:39 GMT
#1019
Hell no.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 14 2010 20:40 GMT
#1020
Wait roll a character? They don't have that anymore. You get two remaps and start out with all stats the same. My first remap was int/mem after getting all learnings to IV, and in a month I'll remap to perception/will and train every single inty and fly faction shit like a pro!
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