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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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KwarK
United States44187 Posts
On September 16 2009 04:37 WiljushkA wrote: sent I beat you to it. :p | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
i should have made you train social skills as a preemptive revenge for this btw, considered by many to be the best match of the alliance tournament so far: | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10921 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
On September 16 2009 15:24 motbob wrote: If you guys hadn't dicked around in the first match you'd be in the finals right now -_- Lol you are right we tried to do a cute strat like you see alot of alliances have success with and it just backfired horribly (that plus our epic preperation for the first match). The second week the post asking for ship types was actually called "get ready to die" where we said fuck it bring short range high DPS BCs like we roam with every day, and insure them and expect to die in a fire. turns out our usual roaming package is quite fearsome. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
Since I just started and I'm poor and have no standings/etc, I wanna run missions to get Implants to speed up training and money/standings. People donated 10.1mil to me on the 1st day which was a great help, ty So should I just get up to cruisers or BCs asap so I can run missions? Or aim for T2 tech items? Also, can somebody explain the Amarr play style? What role/type of ships will I be stuck in (comparing to sc: zealot, siege tank, dragoon)? I've heard from another member that Amarr ships are slow because of armor. This doesn't seem that appealing to me. Perhaps it's better to just train up Caldari/Gallente ships or something. Pulse or beams? Etc. I'll try to get basic and advanced learnings to 4 but I want to train in useful areas too. Btw, if somebody quit the game and has an established account already, can I have it to take over? | ||
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
On September 18 2009 10:05 vnlegend wrote: I started an Amarr character about 2-3 days ago. Since I just started and I'm poor and have no standings/etc, I wanna run missions to get Implants to speed up training and money/standings. People donated 10.1mil to me on the 1st day which was a great help, ty So should I just get up to cruisers or BCs asap so I can run missions? Or aim for T2 tech items? Also, can somebody explain the Amarr play style? What role/type of ships will I be stuck in (comparing to sc: zealot, siege tank, dragoon)? I've heard from another member that Amarr ships are slow because of armor. This doesn't seem that appealing to me. Perhaps it's better to just train up Caldari/Gallente ships or something. Pulse or beams? Etc. I'll try to get basic and advanced learnings to 4 but I want to train in useful areas too. Btw, if somebody quit the game and has an established account already, can I have it to take over? Amarr the laser DPS race basically, their ships are generally not the fastest but have good middle to long range weapons and do just sick amounts of DPS. Their t1 frigs and cruisers are a bit underwhelming in the grand scheme of things, but their BCs and all t2 (cept their AFs) hulls are some of the best in the game. a rundown: The harbinger is the only BC you need to know basicly, it's a beast and with good tech 2 fitting can be pvp fit to do nearly 600 DPS with around 85k EHP. just a mean mean boat that can lay the hurt down in BC and HAC gangs, and can run missions well. basicly everyone loves harbis. The HAC zealot is the best sniper hac in the game bar none, and with sniper HACs being so popular so is the Zealot. The Armageddon is the best remote rep battleship in the game, with a triple 1600 plate and scorch ammo giving plenty of range to it's pulse lasers this is the big brother of the harbi, and basicly a staple of RRBS fights. The Apocalypse is an amazing sniping BS platform, with range upwards of 175km easy, and 400 dps out that far. enough said. The Guardian is the amarr logistics ship and is the best armor rep ship in the game should you choose to go that route. The two interceptors have a very different playstyle then the rest of the race (which is basicly to lay down hurt with the pew pew). The malediction is a very survivable fleet tackler/scout, with rockets making you able to do moderate dps while staying out of your tackled ships optimal range (in the case of ACs and basters this will save your ass). also has enough PG to fit a small repper and nos, giving you even more surviabilty (for an inty at least), with rigs it can warp 16.2au/s which is just about as fast as anything in the game. The Crusader lacks the mid slots to be a great scout/tackle but it's offensive capabilites make it one of the best anti support fleet ships as well as a mean mean solo frig hull. Certain very talente ceptor piolts in our alliance do amazing things with this ship. As for the assult frigs....man idk they also seem sorta underwhelming, i am toying with the idea of making a sniping retribution though, 100 dps at 57 km for a frig is not bad and very surviable do to range tanking. Also word to the wise get the training done with and train basic tackle frig skills then decide what you want your role in the fleet to be and train for it. As for pulse vrs beam, pulse is shrt range beam is long range, so just depends on what you need. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10921 Posts
Basic skills for tackle frig. Battlecruisers (quick!). Full T2 fit except guns (Hull Upgrades 5!) Battleships T2 Guns. Else you will have trouble making money/need much time for it (Harbinger is only good in lvl 3 Missions which pay bad compared to lvl 4's and, if you want to join the TL-Corp you probably will be in Great Wildlands where you'll find the worst Rats you can imagine for Amarr) ... :p Btw: Cool corps would live in stain :p. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10921 Posts
i don't know why i blae the nazis! edit: and vil | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10921 Posts
but vil is stilla t fault | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
22:53:45 ] aDore Him > mmy fukcking geyknoard iiiis so broke (m and i ) ---------------------------------------------------------------- 22:57:12 ] aDore Him > your fuckng dexsus lose fucking stuff to gateguns ---------------------------------------------------------------- 22:59:16 ] aDore Him > beer fucked up my M and I key 22:59:31 ] aDore Him > it's like hitting on a fucking dead cat with fuckng bad responsetime 22:59:59 ] aDore Him > yyeah,.. everyoone says that 23:00:13 ] aDore Him > until they actually hitted a dead cat with fuckng low response itime 23:00:15 ] aDore Him > theire like 23:00:18 ] aDore Him > mwww 23:00:20 ] aDore Him > instead of 23:00:21 ] aDore Him > meeew 23:00:23 ] aDore Him > sucks 23:00:28 ] aDore Him > i want the full stuff 23:00:37 ] Lord Dexxus > this is the best drunken rant ever 23:00:58 ] aDore Him > i wasn't talking about beer 23:01:01 ] aDore Him > beer.. is to slow 23:01:31 ] aDore Him > i managed it 23:01:36 ] aDore Him > to register in genetlemans 23:01:38 ] aDore Him > .. stuff 23:03:13 ] aDore Him > you know 23:03:18 ] aDore Him > you could have this with voice small taste of our corp last night. embarassing stuff cut out. join now for more drunken madness | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10921 Posts
I told ya how it is | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
IIRC, my character is Gallente, has like 3M SP and can fly cruisers. | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
Revo is still AFK. Assumed abducted by poker hating aliens with superior ninja skills. (He said he wil return in 2 weeks time so there's still hope.) In the mean time our leadership has been slightly presured into merging our corp with a larger once because of revo's absence. We've held strong though! SCBW 4 life. Other than that not much has happened. Our US timezone guys have currently taken over the kb and are trying to break my awesome 2 week rain :>. This is another consequence of having no EU timezone fleet commanders(I'm looking at you Revo). Well, that and the lack of time me and Vil are having and it's only gonna go down with Uni starting for me in 1 week. Other than that more drunk rant by aDore! Warning: It's unedited, use your BRAIN to figure out the missspellings. + Show Spoiler + [ 2009.09.24 22:51:39 ] Yulwei > you missed some major drama today [ 2009.09.24 22:55:29 ] aDore Him > hu? [ 2009.09.24 22:55:37 ] aDore Him > i'm drunk and should go sleeping.. [ 2009.09.24 22:55:39 ] Yulwei > yeah [ 2009.09.24 22:55:42 ] aDore Him > give gossip [ 2009.09.24 22:55:43 ] Yulwei > oh lol [ 2009.09.24 22:55:46 ] Yulwei > again ? :> [ 2009.09.24 22:55:52 ] aDore Him > yeah again [ 2009.09.24 22:55:57 ] aDore Him > but it's not weekend now [ 2009.09.24 22:55:57 ] Yulwei > how's your brother chick doing? :D [ 2009.09.24 22:55:58 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 22:56:02 ] aDore Him > on weekend it's kinda normals [ 2009.09.24 22:56:10 ] aDore Him > brother chick is back in the east [ 2009.09.24 22:56:14 ] aDore Him > not as far east as vil [ 2009.09.24 22:56:15 ] aDore Him > but east [ 2009.09.24 22:56:20 ] Yulwei > in slovenia?' [ 2009.09.24 22:56:30 ] aDore Him > yep [ 2009.09.24 22:56:36 ] aDore Him > isn't it slowakia? [ 2009.09.24 22:56:38 ] aDore Him > .... [ 2009.09.24 22:56:42 ] Yulwei > i dunno [ 2009.09.24 22:56:49 ] aDore Him > it was... [ 2009.09.24 22:56:49 ] Yulwei > is she from slowakia or slovenia? [ 2009.09.24 22:57:39 ] aDore Him > hm... [ 2009.09.24 22:57:45 ] aDore Him > i don't see a diffrence? [ 2009.09.24 22:58:00 ] Yulwei > those are 2 different countries >.< [ 2009.09.24 22:58:09 ] aDore Him > are you sure? [ 2009.09.24 22:58:14 ] Yulwei > lol [ 2009.09.24 22:58:26 ] aDore Him > my status is: [ 2009.09.24 22:58:28 ] aDore Him > there was the [ 2009.09.24 22:58:29 ] Yulwei > yes i'm sure I live in slovenia [ 2009.09.24 22:58:38 ] Yulwei > and i'm not a slovak [ 2009.09.24 22:58:45 ] aDore Him > ok.... [ 2009.09.24 22:58:49 ] aDore Him > tschochslovakei [ 2009.09.24 22:58:54 ] aDore Him > the slovakei part [ 2009.09.24 22:58:55 ] Yulwei > lol [ 2009.09.24 22:59:05 ] Yulwei > that isn't a joint country anymore [ 2009.09.24 22:59:17 ] aDore Him > yeah i know [ 2009.09.24 22:59:19 ] aDore Him > now it's [ 2009.09.24 22:59:24 ] aDore Him > tschechia [ 2009.09.24 22:59:29 ] aDore Him > and slowenia? [ 2009.09.24 22:59:32 ] aDore Him > or slowakia? [ 2009.09.24 22:59:34 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 22:59:37 ] aDore Him > damn... [ 2009.09.24 22:59:46 ] Yulwei > have you been living with your head up your ass for the last 15years? :p [ 2009.09.24 22:59:47 ] aDore Him > i thought i would be ok with geographie [ 2009.09.24 22:59:55 ] Yulwei > you're fucking bad [ 2009.09.24 23:00:07 ] aDore Him > obviously [ 2009.09.24 23:00:36 ] Yulwei > slovenia isn't even a neightbouring to slovakia [ 2009.09.24 23:00:44 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 23:00:57 ] aDore Him > second... second screen... will help me with this [ 2009.09.24 23:01:23 ] aDore Him > ok... [ 2009.09.24 23:01:27 ] aDore Him > i got a map right next to me [ 2009.09.24 23:01:37 ] Yulwei > how old is it? [ 2009.09.24 23:01:37 ] aDore Him > and.. [ 2009.09.24 23:01:45 ] aDore Him > it's obvously dated before 1990... [ 2009.09.24 23:01:48 ] aDore Him > next tr [ 2009.09.24 23:02:13 ] aDore Him > ok [ 2009.09.24 23:02:16 ] aDore Him > shes slovakian [ 2009.09.24 23:02:24 ] aDore Him > but still... where the fuck is slovenia [ 2009.09.24 23:02:25 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 23:02:32 ] Viljushkar > [22:57:56] Yulwei > those are 2 different countries >.< [ 2009.09.24 23:02:34 ] Yulwei > slovenian wasn't a sovereignh nation till 1991 [ 2009.09.24 23:02:34 ] Viljushkar > [22:58:05] aDore Him > are you sure? [ 2009.09.24 23:02:37 ] Viljushkar > LOL [ 2009.09.24 23:02:38 ] Viljushkar > brb [ 2009.09.24 23:02:44 ] Viljushkar > and youll tell me of the drama [ 2009.09.24 23:02:45 ] Yulwei > i'm so possting this on tl [ 2009.09.24 23:03:05 ] aDore Him > your using me [ 2009.09.24 23:03:08 ] aDore Him > all the time [ 2009.09.24 23:03:10 ] aDore Him > again [ 2009.09.24 23:03:11 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 23:03:15 ] Yulwei > hey [ 2009.09.24 23:03:30 ] aDore Him > this map i got now on google... still got... yugoslavia on it... [ 2009.09.24 23:03:31 ] Yulwei > i'm not the guy that fails at geography :> [ 2009.09.24 23:03:36 ] Yulwei > rofl [ 2009.09.24 23:03:49 ] aDore Him > you know [ 2009.09.24 23:03:52 ] aDore Him > some years ago [ 2009.09.24 23:03:54 ] aDore Him > it was easy [ 2009.09.24 23:03:56 ] aDore Him > there was a wall [ 2009.09.24 23:04:00 ] aDore Him > and east of it [ 2009.09.24 23:04:02 ] aDore Him > there was evil [ 2009.09.24 23:04:09 ] aDore Him > nowadays... [ 2009.09.24 23:04:13 ] aDore Him > :p [ 2009.09.24 23:04:19 ] Yulwei > lol [ 2009.09.24 23:04:56 ] Yulwei > switzerland has always been easy, you just sit in the middle of a pile of shit and do nothing [ 2009.09.24 23:05:29 ] aDore Him > no really i had to learn in school [ 2009.09.24 23:05:36 ] aDore Him > all the counties of europe and their capital [ 2009.09.24 23:05:51 ] aDore Him > and i knew them... [ 2009.09.24 23:06:14 ] Yulwei > and then you didn't notice that yugoslavia split up in 1990? [ 2009.09.24 23:06:19 ] Yulwei > what the fuck [ 2009.09.24 23:06:22 ] aDore Him > nooo [ 2009.09.24 23:06:25 ] aDore Him > the google map was that old [ 2009.09.24 23:08:21 ] aDore Him > ok... now simple: [ 2009.09.24 23:08:28 ] aDore Him > capital of slovenia = ? [ 2009.09.24 23:08:37 ] Yulwei > ljubljana [ 2009.09.24 23:08:58 ] aDore Him > ah.... [ 2009.09.24 23:09:02 ] aDore Him > there [ 2009.09.24 23:09:10 ] aDore Him > i never will forget that name.. [ 2009.09.24 23:09:11 ] aDore Him > never [ 2009.09.24 23:09:14 ] aDore Him > so uch pain to learn it [ 2009.09.24 23:09:43 ] aDore Him > but now we have to set my record strait... [ 2009.09.24 23:09:52 ] aDore Him > capital of island? [ 2009.09.24 23:10:00 ] Yulwei > reykjavik? [ 2009.09.24 23:10:05 ] aDore Him > damn [ 2009.09.24 23:10:11 ] aDore Him > portugal? [ 2009.09.24 23:10:15 ] Yulwei > lisbona [ 2009.09.24 23:10:19 ] aDore Him > .... [ 2009.09.24 23:10:25 ] aDore Him > white russia [ 2009.09.24 23:10:28 ] Yulwei > minsk [ 2009.09.24 23:10:31 ] aDore Him > ... [ 2009.09.24 23:10:34 ] aDore Him > damn i just faild [ 2009.09.24 23:10:48 ] aDore Him > switzerland? [ 2009.09.24 23:10:51 ] Yulwei > bern [ 2009.09.24 23:11:05 ] aDore Him > couldn't you say zurick? just to make me look... better? | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
On top of this, I spent days planning how to increase my DPS so I can breeze faster through missions, and I can barely squeeze out 8% faster firing speed and 15% increased damage, etc after days. Then I look at Drone Interfacing, 80% dps increase in just 3 days. Want T2 pulse lasers and Scorch? Wait 30 days. Want T2 drones? 6 days. Gallente is the true PvE ez mode, just aggro, run away with afterburner while let the drones afk win the mission. Anybody got a Gallente character they want to give me? | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
From what I've read, Amarr is also very good at killing shields in pvp and letting the rest of your group make up for whats left. Also thanks Vil for spending the time to tell me how weapons work. The meta thing totally eluded me until you explained it. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
As for making money, learn to ninja salvage. You need ~12 hrs of skill training only to successful ninja salvage. Salvaging to 2, Astrometrics to 2, Astrometric Rangefinding 1. That's it. I use a Probe (mimitar frigate) to scan and salvage. Scan first, then dock, fit salvagers and go salvage the lvl 4 mission wrecks. I also loot stuff if they're gone. This is by far the best way to make money, at least 3mil ISK per hour. Here's a guide: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=733552&page=1 | ||
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