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Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 13:50:08
May 28 2014 13:49 GMT
#36641
On May 28 2014 09:58 KwarK wrote:
Legion is sitting on a station at 0, I'm undocked in a letto pointing it.
Legion: "Shit son, I'm being pointed by a letto, better point it back and aggress"
We undock a second letto, a nado, an ishtar and I deaggress. The letto points it and the other two attack.
Legion: "Shit son, I've successfully baited a response" and lights his covert cyno to bring in about 10 blops, mostly redeemers but some panthers. I undock my oracle and insta out, everyone else pulls out to 50km, they all aggress but the legion forgot to wait until he had a ship tackled.
Panther1: "Shit son, I'm deaggressed on an npc station at 0, nobody is shooting me, I'm on 0 with 9 other RR BS" and MJDs out in a random direction, immediately cloaking as the letto runs towards him.
Panther2: "I'll distract that letto" and MJDs out in a different direction towards empty space, off the station at 0 where he is deaggressed and nothing is shooting at him.
Redeemer1: "All the cool kids are doing it" and MJDs out, landing near the letto and getting longpointed.

At this point the ishtar, oracle and nado pile onto it. He is scrammed and we go to work. The rest of the blops leap into action.
7 other blops: "Shit son, friendlies tackled, light those MJDs" and they literally starburst in all directions. We're somewhat confused by this.
As the only person who didn't panic light his MJD and end up in the middle of fucking nowhere (possibly due to no MJD) the legion takes command of the situation.
Legion: "Don't worry redeemer bro, I'm rocking the remote rep defensive subsystem and fit triple CCC rig, I'll get you out of this" and warps himself to his redeemer friend who is in structure and scrammed by the letto. Unfortunately for them the legion, although fitting the RR defensive sub and using CCC rigs rather than, you know, trimarks, hasn't actually put RR in his highs. The letto throws his longpoint on the legion, keeps scramming the redeemer and the redeemer goes down.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23644142

Legion: "Shit, sorry redeemer bro, forgot to refit RR, this letto seems to be holding me, rest of the blops warp to me"
The blops which are in warp range start warping to the legion but unfortunately the 4 slot tank, combined with warping onto ishtar and 2 ABCs, combined with the lack of tank rigs, are collectively unable to resist the incoming dps. The legion goes down.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23649510

The majority of the blops fleet is now clustered on the wreck of the legion and redeemer but there were some whose initial MJDs left them within 150km and couldn't warp in. Fortunately they had a solution to this.
Redeemer 2: "Can't warp in to save you legion, my MJD is ready, will try and jump it"
Redeemer 3: "Are you pointing in our direction?"
Redeemer 2: "Shit son, is that how this module works!?!? Fuck!"

A redeemer jumps into open space about 80km from his friends. Fortunately the letto joins him. Damage goes on, he is longpointed.
Redeemer 2: "Come save me!"
Redeemer 3: "I'll MWD over there and get my remote reps on you"
Unfortunately at this point because we know the MJD is on cooldown we just longpoint the redeemer with the ishtar, thus freeing up the letto and his scram again.
Redeemer 3: "Shit, I tried to MWD over to you but after getting like 50km from the rest of the blops I'm now scrammed by the letto, sorry bro, no reps this time".

So we keep firing and the second redeemer goes down.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23644141

Redeemer 3: "Guys, I'm out in open space here and scrammed, help, help!"
Remaining 6 blops: "Okay, lighting MJDs"
At this point they all MJD in random directions again. We longpoint another (MJD on cooldown) while keeping damage on the the third.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23644140

He had this feedback to give regarding the situation as a whole
[22:48:24] NATTA LIA > gj guys i was flying with a bunch of noobs
Unfortunately further analysis of the fight was cut short
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23644139

Damage then goes onto redeemer 4 who is completely isolated and longpointed with MJD on cooldown when we get ambushed. A kessy warps to redeemer 4, who is going into structure at this point, and lights a cyno. In come, and I swear to god this is the literal truth, 10 more fucking NC. blops, one of whom immediately lights his MJD and jumps into the middle of fucking nowhere in a panther.
Remote reps go on the 4th redeemer who is saved in low structure as our nado, which was sitting at 20km blapping the shit out of it, is forced to back off by the 17 remaining blops ships while our ishtar is no longer in range of his curators and has to use hammerheads. The panther in the middle of nowhere cloaks and the rest of them take their moment and jump out.

Here is a earlier BR of a blops gang containing most of the blops used, although some (such as NATTA) must have either not gotten on the killmails there or joined later. Either way it should serve to show that it really wasn't just my 4 guys (including a frig) blobbing 3 t2 bs and a legion.
http://macabrevotum.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23642695

and here is our full BR
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23644140



Are people really this bad at pvp?
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 28 2014 13:55 GMT
#36642
Yes. 99% of eve is complete shit. Eve would be such a more amazing game if everyone played it at the level we do. Instead you have the vast majority of players completely missing the point. This is sad, because this very large and vocal majority is always giving feedback to CCP- which they listen to, and then create content (which these players want / affirm) which pushes this game in some less then optimal positions. Which is sad becuase EvE had the potential to be so beautifully complex
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42752 Posts
May 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#36643
On May 28 2014 20:12 FortuneSyn wrote:
My first day in Stain. Caught a mackinaw, and he bailed his ship, then comes back in a drake and a talos buddy ahhahaha wtf is this shit.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

He did that to me last time I caught him, I sold it back to him for 50m.
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
May 28 2014 15:25 GMT
#36644
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/supercarrier-changes-coming-in-kronos/
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As detailed in this Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/giving-drones-an-assist/, we're making some adjustments to supercarriers in the Kronos release, set for deployment on June 3rd.

As part of these changes, we will be doubling the volume of Fighter Bomber class drones. During the deployment downtime, if your drone bay becomes overfull as a result of this change, all drones in your drone bay will be moved to your ship’s cargo bay. This can prevent your ship from warping or jumping if your cargo bay is overloaded, until they have been jettisoned or otherwise removed.

As such, we would suggest that you move any extra Fighter Bomber Drones out of your drone bay before the release is deployed, so that you're not left in space with no drones to deploy!

If you do find yourself in a situation whereby your ship is stuck with its cargo bay overloaded, you can jettison the drones and scoop them up to the ship’s corp hangar or fleet hangar, if there is space available.

If you do happen to run into problems and need assistance after Kronos has been deployed, please don’t hesitate to contact Customer Support by filing a ticket under the ‘Stuck Characters’ category and our friendly GM Team will do their best to help you out.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 16:06:58
May 28 2014 15:56 GMT
#36645
On May 28 2014 22:55 Ramiel wrote:
Yes. 99% of eve is complete shit. Eve would be such a more amazing game if everyone played it at the level we do. Instead you have the vast majority of players completely missing the point. This is sad, because this very large and vocal majority is always giving feedback to CCP- which they listen to, and then create content (which these players want / affirm) which pushes this game in some less then optimal positions. Which is sad becuase EvE had the potential to be so beautifully complex

tbh its not a whole lot of effort to learn to fly at a passable level (roughly - "Dalikah doesn't ragequit on your fleet because of how retarded you are"). Learning the details of the game isn't trivial though and it can be a lot of memorization at times. That process can be accelerated by having the right teachers. (You don't need to know why the hurricane is shit but it helps that the people you are learning from know that it is so, etc.)

there are certainly a lot of intricacies of piloting, but even if you understand how to ctrl-space and accelerate to full speed in direction away from people you are fighting, you can do 75%++ of nomen fights for example
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#36646
I agree completely for the most part. Manual piloting is difficult. Regular nanoing, is really not that complex. I think that the two most difficult things in eve to grasp are:

1. Situational awareness, or learning how to take it all in and react when you have 50+ ships on the gird
2. General game knowledge (which you have already mentioned)

I agree that eve is really not that heard to learn, and at least play on a passible level. However even that passible level is far beyond what 99% of the eve playerbase plays at.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42752 Posts
May 28 2014 18:06 GMT
#36647
So I just set a log off trap on an ice belt that locals had been mining on with 15 macks and a rorqual. Then I got distracted by the wife and left kwark on a belt in a tengu, apparently uncloaked. Lost tengu to belt rats and was podded by romanian legion while afk. Come back, activate logoff trap, point rorqual. Try to put links up because I forgot completely where the tengu was but fail. Left the zealot in the wrong system so fail to get secondary point on rorq. Don't have the people together ready to go for the trap anyway. Fuck everything everywhere fuck fuck fuck. Rorq gets out.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 18:43:38
May 28 2014 18:43 GMT
#36648
Well on my side, I just undocked my Ishtar into a Chimera and a few other things. I was curious how much damage a Chimera with 10 Geckos would do, among other things. Went from 100-20% shields in first salvo, then 20-dead in the next second or so.

That was stupid. D:
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 28 2014 18:51 GMT
#36649
On May 28 2014 09:58 KwarK wrote:
Beautiful report just like in the old days <3

Haha, you had me at the starburst bit. Pure gold! I love the obligatory Body (TM) gif afterwards as well.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 29 2014 06:03 GMT
#36650
God undocks, -a-a does not, bni forgets how.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2014 07:31 GMT
#36651
Kwark, have you got a focused Hound/Purifier pilot that you can sell to me for ~4.5b?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2014 07:33 GMT
#36652
Also, one of the NC. people responded on Reddit:

[–]HonestlyMidget 2 points 51 minutes ago
Aww I'm late oh well.
Panther1 here, wish I had audio of our comms it was pretty funny, easily as funny as this battle report which oh god my sides, then I read it again and it got me a second time too.
10/10 would MJD randomly again. =D
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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
May 29 2014 07:50 GMT
#36653
I came across a 25 man Caldari FW gang, roleplaying all Caldari ships of course. Drakes, Feroxes, and plenty of Ospreys. Asked around, nobody wanted to fight it.

Then I came across a 20 man Gallente FW gang, roleplaying all Gallente ships of course. Ishtar, Vexor Navys, Vexors, and plenty of Exequrors. They were bashing a Infrastructure Hub. Fueron, Eggy and I considered fighting it but nah. So I asked around, this time leaving out the part where they had 8 Exequrors, and Exodus seemed interested.

After a good 15 minutes or so Exodus formed up about 15 people in assorted kitchen sink ships, came 2 jumps out (out of about 5 jumps total), sent their own scout in, saw "like 40 logi" and began to waiver. For some reason 4 Exequrors and some assorted Gallente FW dps ships left system. I recounted their fleet comp and noted that this was easily fightable. Their scout also noted that the iHub has been flipped and the Gallente FW fleet was leaving. In a panic, Exodus went in and further dispersed our prey. Eventually the Gallente FW fleet went for the gate (since they couldn't dock in the Caldari system and wanted to go home) and they managed to get into the next system as our tackle did. Our tackle tackled, the enemy bit, and so we fought on gate.

And people were really bad and flew off in random directions not applying damage. The guys that were in damage range and actually doing stuff such as getting points, applying damage, etc., yeah those guys got primaried and killed. (Serg and I)

More people trickled in with real ships and we eventually forced the enemy fleet to disengage and scatter, managing to score some kills on stragglers.

So we went home. But then the Caldari gang came back to bash a Gallente FW Customs Office. We decided to form up and fight them. After a good 30 minutes or so, we arrived on field with about 10 people kitchen sink ships. And the poco was already flipped. The Caldari gang wasn't interested in fighting so we chased them back to their home.

Post Rain Mafia found 2 Kronos and a Vargur sitting in a safe. Suddenly there's 20+ people on comms. When they started probing the 3 marauders warped to a novice plex. We proceeded to kill them. Then a Paladin landed on field. That died too.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23663263
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23663262
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23663246
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23663631

On our way home we came across a Nighthawk. He managed to gate crash away from 6 ishtars and 2 inties into 2 ishtars and 1 inty. Poor guy.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23663382

Again on our way home, we bumped into Tempest Legion's typical 10 man Apoc Navy fleet with armor tech3 support. I jumped into them by accident, gate crashed, waited for them to aggress, and jumped out. Deaths were avoided thanks to my firsthand intel.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 00:36:00
May 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#36654
Day started off slow but ended with a rather nice bang:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/39179544/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/39180367/

Among a bunch of other things.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 30 2014 01:02 GMT
#36655
poland cannot into space.
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0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 02:28:38
May 30 2014 01:22 GMT
#36656
On May 30 2014 10:02 419 wrote:
poland cannot into space.

I have come to this master piece:

+ Show Spoiler +
you are worst c0ven. you are the c0ven idiot you are the c0ven smell. return to hisec. to our Happy Cartel cousins you may come our ratting packet. you may live in the station….ahahahaha , Vanguard we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but dumb c0ven stink happy cartel sqhipere shqipare..SOLAR genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead cynabal ..ahahahahah C0VEN WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget ww2 .CVA we kill the king , solar return to your precious querious….hahahahaha idiot c0ven and cartel smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE CYNABAL FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. kwark+merlin+curse+NC=kill c0ven…you will ww2/ karah alive in stain, karah making lp of sansha . fast lp karah stain. we are rich and have lp now hahahaha ha because of kwark… you are ppoor stink c0ven… you live in a station hahahaha, you live in hisec
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 02:02:31
May 30 2014 02:02 GMT
#36657
On May 30 2014 10:22 0m3ga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 10:02 419 wrote:
poland cannot into space.

I have come to this master piece:

+ Show Spoiler +
you are worst c0ven. you are the c0ven idiot you are the c0ven smell. return to hisec. to our Happy Cartel cousins you may come our ratting packet. you may live in the station….ahahahaha , Vanguard we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but fuck ass c0ven stink happy cartel sqhipere shqipare..SOLAR genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead cynabal ..ahahahahah C0VEN WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget ww2 .CVA we kill the king , solar return to your precious querious….hahahahaha idiot c0ven and cartel smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE CYNABAL FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. kwark+merlin+curse+NC=kill c0ven…you will ww2/ karah alive in stain, karah making lp of sansha . fast lp karah stain. we are rich and have lp now hahahaha ha because of kwark… you are ppoor stink c0ven… you live in a station hahahaha, you live in hisec

wut

Also, everyone, don't go into the Isle Vista Shooting thread over there in the General Forums, just don't
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 30 2014 02:05 GMT
#36658
Yeah I think that thread needs a dose of kwark. Maybe several. Also flying interceptors is fun, I think I've found the class I actually want to get good at flying.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 30 2014 02:24 GMT
#36659
Ceptors? You should just get a slicer <3 lol
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 30 2014 02:32 GMT
#36660
wut




educate yourself.
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