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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On May 20 2013 13:26 Omigawa wrote: An across the board nerf to every ship that has a specific bonus just strikes me as a weird way to "balance" the game. You must be new to this thread. | ||
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Galdo
United States338 Posts
and CCP in general. Also why are you comparing lost EHP to HP? Compare lost EHP to former EHP, that's where my 6.25% came from. | ||
KwarK
United States43953 Posts
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On May 20 2013 13:58 Galdo wrote: and CCP in general. Also why are you comparing lost EHP to HP? Compare lost EHP to former EHP, that's where my 6.25% came from. You're right. I wasn't clear. I was not doing percent differences to EHP. I was taking an arbitrary value (1000 raw HP) and comparing it to the original (loses 0 EHP per 1000 HP) and the nerfed value (loses 233 EHP per 1000 HP [compared to original]) just to show a relationship between resist amounts and raw HP. Basically, if I take some arbitrary amount of raw HP and apply one resist to it vs. another resist, what's the deficiency of the worse one? I wasn't as concerned with showing what the Abaddon gets in terms of EHP shift - I was trying to build up intuition about how resists do not scale linearly. + Show Spoiler [Percent Difference EHP] + But doing percent difference in EHP with my examples, we'll get: a) All Vs Abaddon (pre-nerf) vs. 0-skill Abaddon a = 1-.5 b1 = 1-.25 b2 = 1-0 1/(a*b1) = 2.667 1/(a*b2) = 2.000 2/2.667 = .74, so this represents a 25% EHP loss (in EM armor tank). b) Pre-nerf Abaddon vs. Post-nerf Abaddon a = 1-.5 b1 = 1-.25 b2 = 1-.2 1/(a*b1) = 2.667 1/(a*b2) = 2.500 2.5/2.667 = .9374 so this is a 6.3% EHP loss. c) same as b) but with an EANM a = 1-.5 b1 = 1-.25 b2 = 1-.2 c = 1-.25 1/(a*b1*c) = 3.556 1/(a*b2*c) = 3.333 3.333/3.556 = .9373 so this is a 6.3% EHP loss. While these are certainly helpful for using EFT, they don't illustrate the nonlinear relationship between resist amount and EHP and in fact mislead us by appearing to be uniform (keep adding more resistances to this calculation, it stays at 6.3%). The loss in EHP is proportional of course, but what's interesting here is the amount lost - i.e. how much are we losing on the deal. 6.3% of 100 is 6.3, but 6.3% of 300,000 is 18,900. In terms of EHP lost, 6.3 is hardly worth mentioning where 18,900 is going to be sorely missed. The only differences between these two situations is the resist amount. That's the point I was trying to get across by saying "how much EHP do we lose per 1000 HP". On May 20 2013 14:04 KwarK wrote: Yes, obviously some ships were less broken than others and a universal change to all resists is unlikely to make everything perfectly balanced. But 25% resist increases without penalty on ships that were good were always pretty dumb, especially the way they stacked with RR, but bad ships are even worse now. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
Kill count: 3 Hammerheads ggggggg | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On May 21 2013 03:34 Body_Shield wrote: Oh shit I actually undocked and shot at things today Kill count: 3 Hammerheads ggggggg alpha as fuck. you have to balance that by playing 1 game of dota now. lets go. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
On May 21 2013 06:47 419 wrote: http://genos.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17862878 Gotta boost those sensors mate | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On May 21 2013 06:47 419 wrote: http://genos.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17862878 guess he wanted to be able to target stuff pretty fast | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
blackbird jams gorski, and warps out (I am bad and I think I dropped point on him) blackbird warps into mendori gate there are ~40 ships camping the gate at zero, he is still aggressed gg | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Dalikah > i just got 100 mill from a guy i killed Dalikah > he wanted to add it as a bounty Dalikah > but sent it to my wallet instead | ||
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KwarK
United States43953 Posts
On May 21 2013 12:26 419 wrote: He just passionately believed in the old bounty system. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
however I make no guarantees that I will be generating content at anywhere near levels considered active ** Chessur: "you should web that myrmidon, he's trying to burn back [150 km] to gate" me: "nah brah I'm bad and don't want to get outplayed" kill the myrmidon anyways while he is trying to deaggro on gate http://www.teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17873495 (we also kill a cane + 2 cruiser + 2 dessy + 4 frigs with our double caracal griefer squad, then chessur goes off and dies in a fire while I am trying to fix socket closed problem. How rude. Might have also killed a rook but apparently it can jam a 22 and a 27 sensor gravimetric sensor ship at the same time, gg) | ||
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
thanks | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
I have no idea how my FOFs even ended up hitting this guy http://www.teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17873681 apparently chessur needs 5 quafes | ||
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Johnny Business
Sweden1251 Posts
On May 21 2013 16:34 419 wrote: assah is the new Saranen - if you are interested in semi-consistent pvp then you are welcome to join the fleets that I 'run' - FC by committee the best That I run giving good warpins. Also CCP rise watched us dunk that gang before I went to sleep. Chessur I am contracting you CNIs edit: just got into another wh corp. They are apparently also a part of the coalition of anti pirates. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17853065 | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:18 Body_Shield wrote: slamdunk In the same night: http://www.twitch.tv/krowt9r/c/2307134 http://www.twitch.tv/krowt9r/c/2307151 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17853957 Apparently this is one of the most successful bombing run to date, with almost 50B in damages. | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
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