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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34492 Posts
August 23 2012 04:08 GMT
#24821
On August 23 2012 08:08 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 07:23 Mysticus wrote:
On August 23 2012 04:56 Liebig wrote:
On August 23 2012 04:39 Zedd Althor wrote:
The point i was making was for afk structure repping. Since you are afk, there is no maneuvering. Also 51 day accounts are free, no sub required, just make a new one when your 51 days are up. And you can make as many as you want, ccp imposes no limit. People probably wouldn't make 15-20, but 4-8 is reasonable.

There is the issue of whether it's worth the extra hassel, but in return for the added logistics & skill queues you can do something enjoyable rather than watch the shields on an i-hub go up.

I think there is a limit on the number of 21 days trial you can send per month.


there is a limit of 10.

so you send out 10, and plex each of the 10 accounts.

then you have 10 accounts with 10 invites.

then you plex all 100 accounts and you have 100 accounts with 1000 trial invites

etc.

The end result of this is that you have all the accounts in EVE.

Now where have I seen this before?
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
August 23 2012 07:14 GMT
#24822
KwarK Fightinggggg! xD
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 21:47:07
August 23 2012 10:18 GMT
#24823
2012.08.23 10:16:35 Player Donation 250 000 000,00 ISK [r] xxx deposited cash into RAM Legion DOT's account

Ram legion dot just got it's first merc contract! 250m now 250m after pos removal with 1b for carrier kills and 500m for rorqual kills.
Serious Business
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
August 23 2012 14:43 GMT
#24824
x merlin 2 stabs
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#24825
amarr dram longpoints me in my mission, suddenly +10 local spike. i try to stay as long as possible to finish it, but unfortunately it was reprisal and i only just started it. When their blob started to land on the field i just warp out and trololo in local. stabbed tengu life.

[14:23:34] nitedragon thorhammer > only 10 people?
[14:24:31] Orgon34 > couldnt get any more
after 5 minutes local clears out except for one and dscan is clear, so i go back in again. An arazu decloaks but i warp out before he can target me.
[14:32:39] nitedragon thorhammer > yeah
[14:32:40] nitedragon thorhammer > arazu works
[14:32:49] nitedragon thorhammer > because it totally doesnt have a targeting delay after cloaking
[14:33:06] Condor Amarr > How's that mission going champ?
[14:33:06] Grimfang Wyrmspawn > Sooo, hows that missioning working out for you?
[14:33:18] nitedragon thorhammer > pretty well
[14:33:24] nitedragon thorhammer > farmed 3b so far today
[14:33:24] nitedragon thorhammer > you?
[14:33:39] Ethan Argoin > Missions are for girls!
[14:33:40] Condor Amarr > Well thanks. I have some isk AND credibility
[14:33:41] Grimfang Wyrmspawn > Ahh, so you a a farmer then.
[14:33:50] Grimfang Wyrmspawn > Thought you were worthless at pvp
[14:34:11] nitedragon thorhammer > nicely observed captain obvious

Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 17:51:12
August 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#24826
On August 23 2012 19:18 Johnny Business wrote:
2012.08.23 10:16:35 Player Donation 250 000 000,00 ISK [r] omeagadeath deposited cash into RAM Legion DOT's account

Ram legion dot just got it's first merc contract! 250m now 250m after pos removal with 1b for carrier kills and 500m for rorqual kills.


Oooooor we could not do any of that and just have 250m.

edit: better idea, offer our services as a defense merc for 150m to the people we are gonna destroy the pos of, then offline and steal it.

then we have 400m + pos + whatever the pos has.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
August 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#24827
On August 23 2012 23:43 419 wrote:
x merlin 2 stabs

x merlin scram but no guns
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
August 23 2012 19:48 GMT
#24828
Happy Birthday Kwark if it is your bday
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 20:48:35
August 23 2012 20:48 GMT
#24829
On August 24 2012 02:48 Mysticus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 19:18 Johnny Business wrote:
2012.08.23 10:16:35 Player Donation 250 000 000,00 ISK [r] omeagadeath deposited cash into RAM Legion DOT's account

Ram legion dot just got it's first merc contract! 250m now 250m after pos removal with 1b for carrier kills and 500m for rorqual kills.


Oooooor we could not do any of that and just have 250m.

edit: better idea, offer our services as a defense merc for 150m to the people we are gonna destroy the pos of, then offline and steal it.

then we have 400m + pos + whatever the pos has.



New mercenary plan, have alt corp harass target corp. Offer from the merc corp to "deal with the the offenders" for iskies. Have alts rage on forums, merc corp call success and has happy client, move on to next victim.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#24830
On August 24 2012 05:48 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 02:48 Mysticus wrote:
On August 23 2012 19:18 Johnny Business wrote:
2012.08.23 10:16:35 Player Donation 250 000 000,00 ISK [r] omeagadeath deposited cash into RAM Legion DOT's account

Ram legion dot just got it's first merc contract! 250m now 250m after pos removal with 1b for carrier kills and 500m for rorqual kills.


Oooooor we could not do any of that and just have 250m.

edit: better idea, offer our services as a defense merc for 150m to the people we are gonna destroy the pos of, then offline and steal it.

then we have 400m + pos + whatever the pos has.



New mercenary plan, have alt corp harass target corp. Offer from the merc corp to "deal with the the offenders" for iskies. Have alts rage on forums, merc corp call success and has happy client, move on to next victim.


I see no holes in that plan.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 04:03:46
August 23 2012 21:04 GMT
#24831
This BR sponsored by RAM Legion DOT. Farmer pigs and providers of high-quality mercenary services.

The roam starts with Oracle, 2 Harbinger, Drake, Curse + tackle fighting an Ashimmu + RR Dominix duo. I was not present at the start, but it seemed from comms that the fleet lacked the dps to break any of the armor tanking vessels, which was not aided by Karah Serrigan burning out his launchers during the fight. However some hapless falcon decloaked to hate on everyone, and he was quickly burned as a sacrifice to Caldari Jesus:

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14413407

“Oh Caldari Jesus, please accept this offering of burning ECM vessel, please give us good fight and not this RR domi bullshit / get titan bridged by 1000 rapiers and falcon”

So I joined, bringing our BC count to 5. Along our travels to R3-, professional scout Liquid’Courage jumped into a system and reported “there is no one here but the bubble”, and by “no one” that really meant a wolf and an omen navy issue. The wolf was not aggressed and thus managed to escape through the gate. The omen navy issue was not, and thus suffered an unfortunate case of terminal hull breach:

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14413406

We warped to an outgate while a hostile Sleipnir jumped into system, no doubt on a quest to disgracefully blob honour-warriors and/or drown kittens. Perhaps overcome by remorse for his sinful actions, he decided to hold his jump-in cloak while presumably watching our entire fleet appear on dscan. Only when we all landed on grid did he decloak, at which point he traveled approximately 1 km before his ship exploded:

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14413405

On the next system we met a bearing tengu who decided he really didn’t need a scout for his 1b+ ship because no one in Providence is CVA-unfriendly and this guy is CVA-friendly and so oh god who are these guys and why am I tackled and oh shit what is that curse doing-

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14413404

Eventually we roused the attention of the legendary provi-police, a combined Yulai Federation/CVA strike force consisting of: Sacrilege*, Cynabal, Naga, 2x Tornado, 3x Hurricane, 2x Harbinger*, 2x Drake, Brutix, Sabre, Flycatcher, Purifier*, Manticore, 2x Retribution*, Malediction*, Ishkur, Wolf, Jaguar, Hyena + a ninja assassin ship that was cunningly positioned to ensure our fleet’s doom (!!!!!)

Our forces at the time consisted of: Curse*, 2x Harbinger*, 2x Drake, Oracle*, 2x tackle frigates

*amarr victor, bitches

Our fleet had a whopping 66% Amarr racial purity factor (t1 frigates are not real ships) – Fon Revedhort-approved! – and thus we felt confident that we could achieve victory over the heathens.

We opened the fight up by jumping half our fleet in, which immediately vaporized a Sabre and a Purifier. Karah landed webs on a Cynabal, prompting us to jump the rest of our fleet in to quickly finish him. We dropped a cane on the initial burn-out, then focused on killing the light tackle, dropping a couple AFs / dictors. Things seemed to be going well, but then disaster struck:

(notify) (Loki)Silver Dolan <CVA> has started trying to warp scramble “(Oracle)Wrathful Penguins <TL>”

A CVA in his True Sansha Loki™ had decloaked behind our Harbinger/Drake frontline and started dropping our Oracle quite quickly. However, Liquid’Courage quickly scrams the ninja Loki, and the Drakes put on overheated webs, allowing the Oracle to escape with a burned MWD.

The Loki’s situation quickly sours, as his cunning positioning has placed well beyond the protective reaches of his friends, and in the middle of many TL angries. Being of shoddy Minmatar scrapheap-construction*, the Loki falls quite quickly.

*Alternative explanation: True Sansha rats do not drop faction 1600mm plates, and thus he could not bear to ruin the purity of his ship by fitting them.

We then primary a heavily tanked Drake (2x LSE, 3x hardeners, cap stable), which takes a while to drop. Throughout this time, AFs are continuously trying to pin down our Curse. Unfortunately, because we switch our focus to them (killing a Wolf + Jaguar pair), we allow 2 BCs to escape in structure. A Hyena, for some reason, begins approaching my Drake – “m8, I web u.” Well, “m8 I web you”.

He dies in 2 missile volleys.

After we kill a Harbinger, the Provi-police retreat to a safe spot and we warp off. With a good warpin, we manage to snag an out-of-position Drake before heading to Misaba to rep up.

Total losses: Merlin, Rifter
Wrathful Penguins “Taste the Rainbow” solokills count: 2 (Manticore + Purifier)

Perhaps bristling over their defeat, the Provi-police comes into Misaba and begins camping the station undock. However, things are rather uneventful as they refuse to GCC on me leaving the station. However we decide to safe up and let them probe us down.

Probes pulled, game on. Their force numbers around 20 now, with some replenished tacklers (Slicer, Ares) and some new hardware (Absolution, Typhoon, Onyx). First blood is drawn when a Thrasher ventures too close to our Oracle. After a few minutes of establishing warpins, we manage to land point on a sniper Tornado, sealing his fate.

Their entire tackle corps is killed off rather quickly – Ares/Jag/Punisher/Slicer. Unfortunately, a Typhoon comes to the front of their fleet, hampering our efforts to get points on their less-tanky / more-expensive hardware. Nevertheless, we manage to add 3 BCs to our tally before they evacuate the field.

Losses: none

Aggrieved hostile’s post fight commentary:
reflex94: 2012-08-22 22:13:32
GJ FC ! 20 vs 7 and all blue dead.....


The hostiles then began camping the Misaba gate back in R3-, though their camp now lacks tackle, and their numbers have diminished to ~13, with 2 Nagas providing long-range sniper support. We decide to jump into their hictor bubble.

Unfortunately I spawn on the opposite side of everyone else and thus am forced to burn off at a different angle. The hostiles are understandably reluctant to burn off the gate, but we do manage to kill a Vagabond + a Drake that decided to impale himself on our lasers and missiles.

Wrathful Penguins “Taste the Rainbow” solokills count: 2 (Thrasher + Cheetah)

I leave fleet at this point, but it seems the forces of peace and justice ran into some bait involving 2 guardians, 2 arazus, some apocs, and a lot of other shit.

You know things are serious when the 5-point Arazu is fielded: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14414348

The Hatchery fleet manage to kill a Guardian + 2 Arazu + 2 Interceptors while losing the Curse, a Harbinger, and a tackle frigate.

Amarr Victor!

R3- (Rounds 1-3), Misaba combined battlereport: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=14413712
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42870 Posts
August 23 2012 21:33 GMT
#24832
Thank you for the present BBQ. It's just what I wanted.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
August 23 2012 21:48 GMT
#24833
gz kwarkfuhrer!
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 23 2012 22:12 GMT
#24834
On August 24 2012 06:04 419 wrote:
You know things are serious when the 5-point Arazu is fielded: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14414348



What, is that fit a thing??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 23 2012 22:18 GMT
#24835
On August 24 2012 07:12 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 06:04 419 wrote:
You know things are serious when the 5-point Arazu is fielded: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14414348



What, is that fit a thing??


It's for pointing a sextuple stabbed ships.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
August 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#24836
On August 24 2012 07:12 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 06:04 419 wrote:
You know things are serious when the 5-point Arazu is fielded: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14414348



What, is that fit a thing??


it's almost like quad-scram proteus but better.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34492 Posts
August 24 2012 02:25 GMT
#24837
happy birthday kwark ~
Moderator
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
August 24 2012 02:28 GMT
#24838
On August 24 2012 11:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
happy birthday kwark ~

And for Kwark's birthday, he gets to have a discussion in the "What is Rape" thread on this marvelous website that is teamliquid.net
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
August 24 2012 02:56 GMT
#24839
On August 24 2012 11:28 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
happy birthday kwark ~

And for Kwark's birthday, he gets to have a discussion in the "What is Rape" thread on this marvelous website that is teamliquid.net


I continue to stay amazed that they didn't just close and kill that thread the moment it posted.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
August 24 2012 04:33 GMT
#24840
Happy B Day kwark, your amazing
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
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