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On August 22 2012 23:50 tooDARKpark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 08:54 Zedd Althor wrote: :Random EVE Players:
So a maxed triage carrier with 2 Captial Remote Shield reps will repair 2640 hp/s 1 logi frig with 1 month training is going to repair ~120 hp/s (according to the eve thread, cba to eft it myself) Meaning 20-30 logi frigs (based on skills & fit) = 1 triage carrier Or over 2 bil & months of training just got replaced by 51's & 300 mil
Even if your logic and maths are sound, the real commodity in EVE is manpower. It's quite a bit easier to take a triage x than to find 30 frig x's. Particularly for a 20 man corp. Manpower can easily be simulated by a single person running multiple accounts.
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On August 22 2012 22:28 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:43 Warri wrote:On August 22 2012 21:18 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 22 2012 21:06 Warri wrote:On August 22 2012 19:02 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 22 2012 17:31 NathanEO wrote:On August 22 2012 03:03 Mysticus wrote: Literally going to create and maintain three logi frigate alts to constantly orbit my main(s) at all times. If you apply this to PvE using ships with enough utility highs like the Nightmare or Marauders you can even rep your own reppers back. If you don't need your drones otherwise you can additionaly use logi drones on your repper frigs. Yo dawg...yeah never mind. Yo fb i played against dement and won yesterday! K i be back tomorrow pls teach me so i can beat dement too ty pick lycan win game is this ur amazing strategy every game what happened to sylla i have like 10-30 stats on sylla right now. I dunno why. Doesnt matter if i go solo mid or hardlane or jungle, i get 20k gold till minute 30 and then we lose the game anyway, every time :D
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On August 23 2012 00:11 Mandini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 23:50 tooDARKpark wrote:On August 22 2012 08:54 Zedd Althor wrote: :Random EVE Players:
So a maxed triage carrier with 2 Captial Remote Shield reps will repair 2640 hp/s 1 logi frig with 1 month training is going to repair ~120 hp/s (according to the eve thread, cba to eft it myself) Meaning 20-30 logi frigs (based on skills & fit) = 1 triage carrier Or over 2 bil & months of training just got replaced by 51's & 300 mil
Even if your logic and maths are sound, the real commodity in EVE is manpower. It's quite a bit easier to take a triage x than to find 30 frig x's. Particularly for a 20 man corp. Manpower can easily be simulated by a single person running multiple accounts.
But is it feasible, on a large scale, for people to have 30 alt accounts running on one machine (or even 15 each on two), and to be able to manage and maneuver them as well as say a triage carrier pilot? 30 accounts also costs about 13bil in maintainance per month. Can buy a lot of replacement triage with only 500mil/month maintenance and 12.5bil not spent on 30 alts.
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On August 23 2012 03:40 tooDARKpark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 00:11 Mandini wrote:On August 22 2012 23:50 tooDARKpark wrote:On August 22 2012 08:54 Zedd Althor wrote: :Random EVE Players:
So a maxed triage carrier with 2 Captial Remote Shield reps will repair 2640 hp/s 1 logi frig with 1 month training is going to repair ~120 hp/s (according to the eve thread, cba to eft it myself) Meaning 20-30 logi frigs (based on skills & fit) = 1 triage carrier Or over 2 bil & months of training just got replaced by 51's & 300 mil
Even if your logic and maths are sound, the real commodity in EVE is manpower. It's quite a bit easier to take a triage x than to find 30 frig x's. Particularly for a 20 man corp. Manpower can easily be simulated by a single person running multiple accounts. But is it feasible, on a large scale, for people to have 30 alt accounts running on one machine (or even 15 each on two), and to be able to manage and maneuver them as well as say a triage carrier pilot? 30 accounts also costs about 13bil in maintainance per month. Can buy a lot of replacement triage with only 500mil/month maintenance and 12.5bil not spent on 30 alts. Maintenance is free, when the 51 day is about to run out, you just make 30 more 51 days.
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United States7481 Posts
Anyone making the "30 logi frigates on 51 day accounts is just as good as a triage carrier!!!" argument is being totally specious and should be treated as such. I don't see anyone running around 160-boxing slashers because that equals 1 blap dread.
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People, people! You cannot connect to the server with multiple trial accounts or even a trial and paid account at the same time. The connection will be refused.
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On August 23 2012 04:18 pQylling wrote: People, people! You cannot connect to the server with multiple trial accounts or even a trial and paid account at the same time. The connection will be refused.
A 51-day account isn't a trial account, it's a full account. So you can connect with as many as you can handle.
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On August 23 2012 04:03 Antoine wrote: Anyone making the "30 logi frigates on 51 day accounts is just as good as a triage carrier!!!" argument is being totally specious and should be treated as such. I don't see anyone running around 160-boxing slashers because that equals 1 blap dread. That would be quite hilarious though
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On August 23 2012 04:18 pQylling wrote: People, people! You cannot connect to the server with multiple trial accounts or even a trial and paid account at the same time. The connection will be refused. with sandboxie you can
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The point i was making was for afk structure repping. Since you are afk, there is no maneuvering. Also 51 day accounts are free, no sub required, just make a new one when your 51 days are up. And you can make as many as you want, ccp imposes no limit. People probably wouldn't make 15-20, but 4-8 is reasonable.
There is the issue of whether it's worth the extra hassel, but in return for the added logistics & skill queues you can do something enjoyable rather than watch the shields on an i-hub go up.
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I eat my words, I didn't think this was exploiting the invite reward.
However, there is a limit to how many buddy invites you can send every month.
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On August 23 2012 04:39 Zedd Althor wrote: The point i was making was for afk structure repping. Since you are afk, there is no maneuvering. Also 51 day accounts are free, no sub required, just make a new one when your 51 days are up. And you can make as many as you want, ccp imposes no limit. People probably wouldn't make 15-20, but 4-8 is reasonable.
There is the issue of whether it's worth the extra hassel, but in return for the added logistics & skill queues you can do something enjoyable rather than watch the shields on an i-hub go up. I think there is a limit on the number of 21 days trial you can send per month.
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Yes, i believe there is a limit of invites per account, but if you are making 51 day accounts, you don't need to worry about running out of invites.
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On August 23 2012 04:56 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 04:39 Zedd Althor wrote: The point i was making was for afk structure repping. Since you are afk, there is no maneuvering. Also 51 day accounts are free, no sub required, just make a new one when your 51 days are up. And you can make as many as you want, ccp imposes no limit. People probably wouldn't make 15-20, but 4-8 is reasonable.
There is the issue of whether it's worth the extra hassel, but in return for the added logistics & skill queues you can do something enjoyable rather than watch the shields on an i-hub go up. I think there is a limit on the number of 21 days trial you can send per month.
there is a limit of 10.
so you send out 10, and plex each of the 10 accounts.
then you have 10 accounts with 10 invites.
then you plex all 100 accounts and you have 100 accounts with 1000 trial invites
etc.
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United States12546 Posts
On August 23 2012 07:23 Mysticus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 04:56 Liebig wrote:On August 23 2012 04:39 Zedd Althor wrote: The point i was making was for afk structure repping. Since you are afk, there is no maneuvering. Also 51 day accounts are free, no sub required, just make a new one when your 51 days are up. And you can make as many as you want, ccp imposes no limit. People probably wouldn't make 15-20, but 4-8 is reasonable.
There is the issue of whether it's worth the extra hassel, but in return for the added logistics & skill queues you can do something enjoyable rather than watch the shields on an i-hub go up. I think there is a limit on the number of 21 days trial you can send per month. there is a limit of 10. so you send out 10, and plex each of the 10 accounts. then you have 10 accounts with 10 invites. then you plex all 100 accounts and you have 100 accounts with 1000 trial invites etc. The end result of this is that you have all the accounts in EVE.
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it's literally how kwark became 10% of eve subscribers.
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United States41984 Posts
On August 23 2012 04:18 pQylling wrote: People, people! You cannot connect to the server with multiple trial accounts or even a trial and paid account at the same time. The connection will be refused. Have you played eve before? This discussion is for people who have. If you feel you have but still felt the need to make the above comment then please reassess.
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United States41984 Posts
On August 23 2012 04:56 pQylling wrote: I eat my words, I didn't think this was exploiting the invite reward.
However, there is a limit to how many buddy invites you can send every month. wow
"you can log on a dozen 51s at once" "no you can't, they'll only be trials" "no, they're 51s, they're be full members, all 51s are full members" "but each full member can only make 10 more full members each month" "....."
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