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What is the biggest skill 1v1 fighter game? - Page 8
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
Obviously Street Fighter is first here because everyone = street fighter fanboys. ^^ | ||
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Kerensky
148 Posts
i am (was) absolute master of that game | ||
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Kerensky
148 Posts
just watching people play makes me cringe (since i can 100% block every single move in the game) | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
On February 14 2009 08:08 CharlieMurphy wrote: If they ever make SF3:4th they should get rid of his easy stun imo. lol | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On February 14 2009 08:08 CharlieMurphy wrote: Akuma is pretty fierce with brutal rushdowns. Imo the problem is that he has both low HP and low stun meter. If it was one or the other I would probably agree with Kuroda. If they ever make SF3:4th they should get rid of his easy stun imo. if my defense/patience/execution was as good as Kuroda then Akuma probably would seem a lot better than if I was a random dude who isn't a top Japanese 3S player | ||
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lgd-haze
Sweden547 Posts
There's actually a pretty huge scene for it right now even though its not even released outside Japan. Though some characters seems to be kinda underpowered now, there's people coming up with new ways to play each character. So in the end i suppose it can be pretty balanced. And come on, who doesn't like seeing their favourite final fantasy character kick some serious asses. Video of two people playing : | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
On February 14 2009 07:56 MCMcEmcee wrote: guess who invented like 90% of the mechanical basis for modern Marvel play oh right Japan did that in XvSF and then stopped caring. If you have seen any of the stuff that the Japanese players who came to Evo did, it's pretty clear their issues with Marvel have nothing to do with technical stuff at all. When team USA went to Japan for that old invitational, the report about Marvel was "they don't play the game much so they aren't very good, but dang their combos are crazy." Incidentally a major theme from the reports from that trip- "Japan's execution is a billion times better than America's." well put MC3, glad at least one person in this thread read my post. The skill set that Japanese players and Americans focus on seems so different though. I dunno how much you can take him at his word, but JWong in his interview noted that he felt his reflexes were stronger than Nuki's (I think that's who he said...) when he played against him at Evo. I guess the stereotype is that Japanese players are robots. Did any of the people who voted Smash read my posts? If so, I welcome any constructive arguments like MC3's because right now, I'm more inclined than ever to think that Smash players are blindly voting and not even participating in the discussion. Just blindly pointing out the perks in Smash while simply stating, "yeah, the mind games are definitely better than in Street Fighter or Tekken" is extremely vague and unconvincing. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On February 14 2009 09:01 Scooter wrote: well put MC3, glad at least one person in this thread read my post. The skill set that Japanese players and Americans focus on seems so different though. I dunno how much you can take him at his word, but JWong in his interview noted that he felt his reflexes were stronger than Nuki's (I think that's who he said...) when he played against him at Evo. I guess the stereotype is that Japanese players are robots. Did any of the people who voted Smash read my posts? If so, I welcome any constructive arguments like MC3's because right now, I'm more inclined than ever to think that Smash players are blindly voting and not even participating in the discussion. Just blindly pointing out the perks in Smash while simply stating, "yeah, the mind games are definitely better than in Street Fighter or Tekken" is extremely vague and unconvincing. I think that's just Justin though, lol. Justin is pretty unique as fighting game players go in a lot of respects- not to say that nobody can be as good as him or whatever, but his reflexes ARE really good and he approaches games really intelligently. As for the whole "Japanese are robots, Americans/westerners/whatever play more creative" argument, it's pretty similar to the "Koreans are all mechanics, foreigners play strategically" argument for SC. | ||
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tegg
United States33 Posts
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
On February 14 2009 09:01 Scooter wrote: Did any of the people who voted Smash read my posts? If so, I welcome any constructive arguments like MC3's because right now, I'm more inclined than ever to think that Smash players are blindly voting and not even participating in the discussion. Just blindly pointing out the perks in Smash while simply stating, "yeah, the mind games are definitely better than in Street Fighter or Tekken" is extremely vague and unconvincing. If any of that type of discussion was going on, it'd belong in the official thread anyway. This thread's sole purpose is fanboy nonsense lol In regards to mahhvel, if you watch the rare japanese players that use a halfway decent team, the execution is much much better than any american counterpart. Mitsu's Iron Man is 100% consistent in his combos and is constantly canceling moves to make them safe. J360's Iron Man, on the other hand, is pure RTSD resets. Only us player whose execution seems to be pretty on point is yipes  And chris schmidt at OSB3. To use the marvel terminology, he played MSP that whole tournament with "no boomerangs." (magneto's 896 p projectile from the air that comes out if you fuck up a tri jump). | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 14 2009 11:27 IzzyCraft wrote: KOF 98'! lol yea, KoF isnt even on the list.. 98 is the best of the series imo | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Not exactly the best example to use T2 for your argument... As for realism, VF > tekken. Tekken has fighting animals for crying out loud... and how is the juggle system "realistic" T_T VF, as I've heard many top players say, is highly technical but I don't know much about it so X_X As for marvel, the "Fake out suspense" stuff you can find are commonly present with Magneto players trying to hit their resets. See: the new "Seasons Beatings III" footage zachdms posted on youtube along with some select videos of Yipes (IFCyipes) using MSP If you want a good MvC2 series to watch, look for Clockwork vs Duc Jr. moneymatch series on youtube. As for Alpha 3, I admit, its pretty great, Xenozip's tutorial explains some of its advanced tactics really well and it was a hit for both the US scene and Jap scene. Hell, if we're going for SF alpha games, SFA2 is underrated. | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
As for the whole "Japanese are robots, Americans/westerners/whatever play more creative" argument, it's pretty similar to the "Koreans are all mechanics, foreigners play strategically" argument for SC. when i used to play/follow tekken, it was the koreans who played safe/robotic, the japanese who played with the parlor tricks, with the westerners falling somewhere in the middle, but overall behind. | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
In short: are qudans, Nin, Knee etc etc still alive? =O EDIT: Just to follow-up. Yeah, wong said his reaction time was faster than nuki's (Said it in a gootecks podcast I believe, about how he can see nuki whiff something, s.fierce I think... not really sure, and punish) | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Ended up being Nin Vs Knee everytime =O epic DR tourney | ||
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