EPTTL Mafia V: The Town Strikes Back - Page 18
| Forum Index > General Games |
|
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
| ||
|
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On December 30 2008 06:12 mikeymoo wrote: I trust RoL. For now. I was Jack in mafia 3, and my thinking in that game was almost exactly the same as his thinking is now. Congrats to him if he can pull some double-reverse psychology garbage, but I think it is far too risky in a game with both people who are intelligent (the types of people who can read things as reverse psychology) and unintelligent (people who take everything at face value). He is NOT sacrificing himself a la Folca. He is smart enough to have a plan if Ace flips red, although it doesn't indicate his legitimacy. My sole problem is that if Ace flips otherwise and we figure out RoL is mafia, they have a medic that can protect him from vigi hits. Not cool. Hence, I will abstain for now, even though I lean more towards trusting RoL. Good thing the mafia doesn't have a roleblocker like they did in Ace's game. *edit* And what if Ace IS the mafia doc? | ||
|
BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On December 30 2008 06:12 mikeymoo wrote: I trust RoL. For now. I was Jack in mafia 3, and my thinking in that game was almost exactly the same as his thinking is now. Congrats to him if he can pull some double-reverse psychology garbage, but I think it is far too risky in a game with both people who are intelligent (the types of people who can read things as reverse psychology) and unintelligent (people who take everything at face value). He is NOT sacrificing himself a la Folca. He is smart enough to have a plan if Ace flips red, although it doesn't indicate his legitimacy. My sole problem is that if Ace flips otherwise and we figure out RoL is mafia, they have a medic that can protect him from vigi hits. Not cool. Hence, I will abstain for now, even though I lean more towards trusting RoL. Ace dies and flips blue or green, we then lynch RoL following day. Medic don't prot that. But give ace a chance to defend himself and depending on that will determine if he dies or not. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On December 30 2008 06:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ace dies and flips blue or green, we then lynch RoL following day. Medic don't prot that. But give ace a chance to defend himself and depending on that will determine if he dies or not. I'm an idiot. Apologies. DUH LYNCH | ||
|
RealJack
3 Posts
| ||
|
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
I hate not being able to edit =[ | ||
|
BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
silly mikey | ||
|
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
trix is for me | ||
|
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
| ||
|
Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On December 30 2008 06:21 RealJack wrote: Incognito, its obvious that I am playing this game and made an account so I could safely roleclaim jack rofl. rebirth, a vigi hit on ace doesnt work till day 2. I think rebirth is roleclaiming jack to try and get real blue roles by gaining trust. I think ace is probably mafia. I can use my rolecheck on anyone to verify my role. Just give me a target is that allowed? nobody has ever tried to do so before, but my gut feeling is this is against the rules | ||
|
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
| ||
|
RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
You really don't think this through, do you RealJack? There is no proof that you actually role checked someone apart from them saying you did or something. That is not reliable T_T? Any other ideas for your lovely test you would like to fake? Or should I just ignore you from now on? You are probably the mafia trying to throw off what would be a strong town union early on. so all you have to do is say "well I role checked *name*", and whether or not he comes out, you can be mafia. Not too reliable. Edit: Upon popular request, you are now being ignored until the mods kick your account out of the game t_T. Post on your "real" name or stop. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
If the real jack wants to come out into the open they can. But don't be so hasty on lynching Ace yet let's hear his defense. | ||
|
ketomai
United States2789 Posts
Anyways my thoughts: Like many others have said, it makes little sense for Rebirth to roleclaim Jack as mafia. There's only one Jack, and that Jack would know for sure that Rebirth is mafia. There is a small possibility that he's playing on last game's logic, in that Ace was trusted by some because there was no way he was going to sacrifice Ver. Perhaps the mafia is sacrificing Ace to gain everyone's trust (Rebirth could be the godfather) and/or draw out the real Jack. Remember that the mafia has a medic, so the real Jack will not be able to kill Rebirth by himself later in the game. On top of this, if the real Jack allows Rebirth to continue being the "Jack" (since he fears revealing himself), everyone will trust Rebirth, so he's pretty much forced to come out somehow. On the otherhand, roleclaiming Jack as a real Jack is also a stupid move. Don't forget that the mafia can convert this game. Losing our most powerful role to the mafia, especially this early, would be disaster (even if it takes a hit then a convert). If Rebirth eventually proves to be a real Jack, which he undubitably will if he's a real Jack, then he's perpetually at risk of dying or being converted, and that will be a big pain for town and medics. There's also the possibility that he wants to be converted, though that's stupid, because technically he's in a really good position to win if he's converted. Waiting for Ace to post before I do anything. | ||
|
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
| ||
|
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
| ||
|
RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
| ||
|
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On December 30 2008 06:32 nevake wrote: Oh man...poor Ace >.<. It's karma for getting Ver last game. Anyways my thoughts: Like many others have said, it makes little sense for Rebirth to roleclaim Jack as mafia. There's only one Jack, and that Jack would know for sure that Rebirth is mafia. There is a small possibility that he's playing on last game's logic, in that Ace was trusted by some because there was no way he was going to sacrifice Ver. Perhaps the mafia is sacrificing Ace to gain everyone's trust (Rebirth could be the godfather) and/or draw out the real Jack. Remember that the mafia has a medic, so the real Jack will not be able to kill Rebirth by himself later in the game. On top of this, if the real Jack allows Rebirth to continue being the "Jack" (since he fears revealing himself), everyone will trust Rebirth, so he's pretty much forced to come out somehow. On the otherhand, roleclaiming Jack as a real Jack is also a stupid move. Don't forget that the mafia can convert this game. Losing our most powerful role to the mafia, especially this early, would be disaster (even if it takes a hit then a convert). If Rebirth eventually proves to be a real Jack, which he undubitably will if he's a real Jack, then he's perpetually at risk of dying or being converted, and that will be a big pain for town and medics. There's also the possibility that he wants to be converted, though that's stupid, because technically he's in a really good position to win if he's converted. Waiting for Ace to post before I do anything. The mafia can't convert until after day 3. We have time. Plus we can have Rebirth use all his useful skills (DT ones and maybe vigi) then just let him die. Not saying we should kill him off, but this is a community game, so if we can use what assets we have then let our liabilities go, we will do fine. If rebirth is a fake jack we can lynch him, not vigi kill. Medic cannot save there. This has been mentioned. | ||
|
ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
Another possibility is that RoL and Ace are BOTH mafia and RoL is hoping to gain the town's trust by throwing Ace under a bus. However, with only 1 jack in the game, his fake claim wouldn't hold up for long. Or perhaps RoL is actually a detective and is just hoping that he isn't really insane... I hate to screw Ace again, but I'd rather do it than lynch someone on shaky clues. | ||
|
ketomai
United States2789 Posts
Also, if you're the jack, you had no need to reveal Ace as mafia and roleclaim, you should have just waited and vigi killed him or waiting until you could find a mouthpiece instead of risking yourself. | ||
| ||
