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On September 16 2011 07:05 fire179 wrote:
Is there a trick to keeping people nearby as maliken? One of the most difficult things i have is keeping people near me during my ulti and i never see an icebrand or any kind of slow picked up on him. So yeah is there a trick?
That's the problem with any melee carry lol
Yell at you team to pick heroes that can hold their team still while u shoot them
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On September 16 2011 07:05 fire179 wrote:
Is there a trick to keeping people nearby as maliken? One of the most difficult things i have is keeping people near me during my ulti and i never see an icebrand or any kind of slow picked up on him. So yeah is there a trick?
initiate with your sword throw into a cluster of their heroes and ult, it does wonders and lets your team follow you into the battle
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On September 16 2011 07:13 BalancedBreakfast wrote:
a lot of people play mali wrong. They think they can just ulti>bkb and rape. While this is somewhat true, you rape a lot harder if you ulti>atk and bkb when you are 40%hp. I always facepalm myself when I see a mali waste bkb at full hp, get stunned at 30% hp and is useless when he does the most damage.
your words are truth, and sometimes i find myself falling victim to that myself haha
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worst thing about maliken is hitting q twice due to lag
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or coming out of a stun and spamming your q to try and get out but end up blinking an inch away
same with bubbles.  DAT PANIC MODE.
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On September 16 2011 07:41 wooozy wrote:or coming out of a stun and spamming your q to try and get out but end up blinking an inch away same with bubbles. DAT PANIC MODE.
Oh good Im not the only one :p.
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On September 16 2011 07:41 wooozy wrote:or coming out of a stun and spamming your q to try and get out but end up blinking an inch away same with bubbles. DAT PANIC MODE.
Or pressing r while in fountain.
Actually I do that with every hero
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what exactly is the point of the leveling system anyway? its nice to get a ton of coins but other then that cant see a point of it
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On September 16 2011 06:55 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 20:40 Sm3agol wrote:
So rhapsody....OP support hero? Her staccatto stun is ridiculously annoying, disco inferno is the ultimate pushing tool, her ulti is golden, and her passive can be super powerful lategame. i say this having played rhapsody last night a couple of times, and despite getting killed tons of times, and never getting a single kill, I hugely affected so many team fights. My q alone saved multiple teamates multiple times. Rhapsody is hands down the best support in the game. Her disco inferno skill is pretty broken; and if you are semi competent her ult is insane! I played a rhapsody jera combo the other day; it was pretty hilarious. He just used repel until i got a shrunken and we hardly had any deaths in a team fight. I think her disco inferno is the only really 'broken' part of it; it needs a nerf big time. And i don't think i agree with "let supports get the early cs" - from my experience supports get the majority of their gold from assists on ganks; a creep kill here and there is obviously fine but i'd prefer my carry hitting core items sooner
I don't agree at all.
She's definitely good with the right lineup, combined with other pushing heroes. Other than that, I'll take DS or Andro over her pretty much any day.
Comet = Staccato (Staccato getting better with higher level, Comet being better at level 1), Aurora = Disco Inferno (situational), Andro's aura > Rhap's aura, Swap > Rhap's ulti.
The problem with channeling spells is that they rely so much on positionning, and they rely on your enemies being unable to save their stuns/focus target you basically, so they generally scale poorly with skill level.
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On September 16 2011 07:13 BalancedBreakfast wrote:
a lot of people play mali wrong. They think they can just ulti>bkb and rape. While this is somewhat true, you rape a lot harder if you ulti>atk and bkb when you are 40%hp. I always facepalm myself when I see a mali waste bkb at full hp, get stunned at 30% hp and is useless when he does the most damage.
And then the other team chainstuns the shit out of you and kill you before you can even pop your BKB, or simply bring you low enough to be able to autoattack you down when you finally bkb.
Seriously, thats a very very bad idea. It sounds good on paper, but its not going to work against competent people.
As for rhapsody, she is definately one of the strongest support hero by far. Id pick her over dsham any day of the week, but I wouldnt pick her over and andro anytime, I think that really depends on the lineup. (push centric = rhap, gank centri = andro, carry centric = andro)
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Here's the thing with Andro, she's also really good with pushing strats. Her aura is an underrated pushing tool, applying +30% damage to all creeps, Aurora also helps clearing creep waves in 2 seconds.
Her only big weakness I can see is if she's played as a babysitter, obviously she can't harass for shit.
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Rhap can lane pretty well with someone who can hold for a long time. Poly/Elec for a long on hold on floor with nukes from both after the hold is over. Then on top of that you have you and your creep wave are being healed, and their creep wave is dying so when it's over they have creeps chasing them. It's not omg amazing but it does work ok. I don't think her ulti is as strong as people make it out to be, it's just too situational. Although situationally it is a game changer like many other heroes. I can see how Jere + Rhap is an awesome combo.
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On September 16 2011 10:08 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 07:13 BalancedBreakfast wrote:
a lot of people play mali wrong. They think they can just ulti>bkb and rape. While this is somewhat true, you rape a lot harder if you ulti>atk and bkb when you are 40%hp. I always facepalm myself when I see a mali waste bkb at full hp, get stunned at 30% hp and is useless when he does the most damage. And then the other team chainstuns the shit out of you and kill you before you can even pop your BKB, or simply bring you low enough to be able to autoattack you down when you finally bkb. Seriously, thats a very very bad idea. It sounds good on paper, but its not going to work against competent people. As for rhapsody, she is definately one of the strongest support hero by far. Id pick her over dsham any day of the week, but I wouldnt pick her over and andro anytime, I think that really depends on the lineup. (push centric = rhap, gank centri = andro, carry centric = andro)
By that logic you can get chainstunned at any time and killed
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When to bkb is going to be situational and vary mostly depending on their heroes. Most teams can't actually stunlock and burst a farmed maliken down (given decent positioning), but a few can. Fortunately those teams tend to be filled with squish and generally at least 1-2 can be killed before bkb wears off. (Pyro witchslayer polly tb mag is an example of a team that I would bkb against at the beginning rather than end).
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On September 16 2011 10:52 GhostKorean wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 10:08 TurpinOS wrote:On September 16 2011 07:13 BalancedBreakfast wrote:
a lot of people play mali wrong. They think they can just ulti>bkb and rape. While this is somewhat true, you rape a lot harder if you ulti>atk and bkb when you are 40%hp. I always facepalm myself when I see a mali waste bkb at full hp, get stunned at 30% hp and is useless when he does the most damage. And then the other team chainstuns the shit out of you and kill you before you can even pop your BKB, or simply bring you low enough to be able to autoattack you down when you finally bkb. Seriously, thats a very very bad idea. It sounds good on paper, but its not going to work against competent people. As for rhapsody, she is definately one of the strongest support hero by far. Id pick her over dsham any day of the week, but I wouldnt pick her over and andro anytime, I think that really depends on the lineup. (push centric = rhap, gank centri = andro, carry centric = andro) By that logic you can get chainstunned at any time and killed
That's why we bkb first and kill some before going down. Maliken strat aka S2 true story.
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thats why we go into teamfights at <10% hp so we can get the full dmg AND use bkb immediately
jeez why did nobody think of THAT
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Der, that's why you get insanitarius, so you can kill yourself to 10% ready for any fight. Like the good old let Roshan kill you to 10% and go ganking in enemy forest with terrorblade strat.
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On September 16 2011 13:16 AndyJay wrote:
Der, that's why you get insanitarius, so you can kill yourself to 10% ready for any fight. Like the good old let Roshan kill you to 10% and go ganking in enemy forest with terrorblade strat.
TB with Dagon was so much fun 
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oh god another patch, hopefully hon isn't down for the whole day.
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If Terrorblade made a mistake he'd be errorblade.
and if Terrorblade lost all his hair he'd be Terrorbalde
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