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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:18:56
September 07 2011 11:18 GMT
#30741
It's actually not an infinite amount of health, there is a cap but it's very very high(at least in hon).

Vindicator (hon's silencer) also has a hard cap on how much int he can get - I believe it's 128 (at least according to a few mechanics threads about a year ago). I think in hon devourer is capped at 1028 strength or something like that.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
September 07 2011 11:22 GMT
#30742
On September 07 2011 20:07 lozarian wrote:
Blademail has a damage cap of 3k. Anything above 3k damage (or below 2 damage) in one hit is ignored. Just to bring some mechanics into this discussion. Also pudgeywudgey could just get a bkb.


in HoN, at least, barbed armour (equiv of blademail) is of damage type returned, so BKB does nothing.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 07 2011 11:23 GMT
#30743
in HoN, at least, barbed armour (equiv of blademail) is of damage type returned, so BKB does nothing.


Think he meant a BKB to block Preds lifesteal? I think it does physical damage but is considered a magical effect iirc
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:29:27
September 07 2011 11:26 GMT
#30744
On September 07 2011 19:51 Gowerly wrote:
Does DotA have the equivalent of predator that has a passive that does 8% of target's current HP in physical damage and heals for that?

Yes there is.
Lifestealer
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
September 07 2011 12:22 GMT
#30745
Na'ix!
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 12:52:12
September 07 2011 12:51 GMT
#30746
On September 07 2011 18:19 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:51 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:00 wonderwall wrote:
So, TL, what is the hardest carry in HoN?


Have to be more specific. Highest potential dps on a single target? No clue I think Dark Lady is up there though. 1v1 carry wars? These are really situational and often depend on who initiates on who. The best carry to pick in a MM game? Valk and Magebane are up there as its so difficult to gank them and stop them from farming. Best carry in the pro scene? Silhouette recently in last weeks games.


I think what he means is, if one carry had high farm, when compared to other carries at the same farmed state, which is the strongest?

I this SW is a strong contender for hardest carry. If you can get him 2400 or so health (frostwulf and behemoths heart?), then he's extremely hard to bring down, and does huge damage to everyone. Nullfire or mock makes him do obscene damage. While at the same time, Frostwulf slowing everyone and draining some mana. Crazy.

Scout is definitely in the conversation. So is Dark Lady.




According to swindlemelonzz Silhouette is the hardest carry in HoN hands down. He even mentioned something about her winning against CD using conduit on her with just autoattacks and not using any skills. Sick.

Might also be a reason why sgty picks her for Tralfamadore every time they can.
+ Show Spoiler [sgty vs DM] +
Annihilation against Dirty Minds isn't something that happens often, isn't it?



They pick Silhouette for Tralf everytime she's available because Tralf is one of the two best silhouette players in the game.

Notail is the only other one that plays her at the same level.

She is a beastly carry that doesn't really have a weak part of the game. She has a strong Early/Mid/Late, can gank fairly effectively, can farm like crazy, has amazing harassment ability, and can pretty much win 1v1 in a lane against any hero besides maybe a succubus.

Really I consider her slightly OP still, but shes by far my favorite hero. Very fun to play and has a high skill cap. One of the few S2 heroes I really enjoy playing.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 07 2011 13:16 GMT
#30747
I haven't watched any competitive HoN games but I think that Sillos ult is way too good and people don't use it to its full potential
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 07 2011 13:45 GMT
#30748
On September 07 2011 22:16 GhostKorean wrote:
I haven't watched any competitive HoN games but I think that Sillos ult is way too good and people don't use it to its full potential


The fact that tralf and notail do is what makes them so dangerous on that hero.

Her ult is amazing. Get out of jail free card or you can just push a lane to your hearts content in relative safety, especially if you have a nullstone.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 07 2011 13:56 GMT
#30749
Does the Teamliquid channel and stuff still exist for HoN or has it kind of died down?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
September 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#30750
I mean get a bkb to block blademail. And yeah, I don't know anythign about HoN
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:38:42
September 07 2011 15:38 GMT
#30751
So How many times is hon down a day? fucking jokes, can't wait for dota 2.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 07 2011 15:42 GMT
#30752
On September 08 2011 00:38 Suffo wrote:
So How many times is hon down a day? fucking jokes, can't wait for dota 2.

I've had 0 problems as of late =p doesn't mean there isn't a problem but how is dota 2 suppose to prevent bad servers? because they'll be private? so ppl will blame shitty servers instead of valve?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:59:41
September 07 2011 15:55 GMT
#30753
I'm still amazed by the amount of retards playing this game.
I mean BGHing on US East feels good compared to HoN.

Worst things are the carries who yell "ward" all game ( even if you are warding ), cry about ks when you are just trying to help and never say thanks for the assists and saves. Ofc they will never forget to blame you if you lose a team fight.

At least in bw when someone was talking shit all game you could always 1x1 after lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
September 07 2011 16:23 GMT
#30754
On September 08 2011 00:55 Boblion wrote:
I'm still amazed by the amount of retards playing this game.
I mean BGHing on US East feels good compared to HoN.

Worst things are the carries who yell "ward" all game ( even if you are warding ), cry about ks when you are just trying to help and never say thanks for the assists and saves. Ofc they will never forget to blame you if you lose a team fight.

At least in bw when someone was talking shit all game you could always 1x1 after lol.

Last night, I was playing andro, and a valk and DR were chasing someone down, the valk and DR having basically zero mana. I cut the guy(i think it was a PR with phase boots) off of the tower, and dropped my q on her, trying to stun her so they could finish it off. Well, apparently a level 4 andro q ability takes a lot of hp off of a level 8 PR, so it killed her. Immediately both the DR and valk start bitching at me for kill stealing. -_-
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 16:49:06
September 07 2011 16:34 GMT
#30755
Anyone who complains about kill stealing is bad. Unless they have some gigantic streak, the extra hundred gold isn't game changing. They're just stat whores.

Also, some useful reading for new people. Should still be accurate.

Edit: When I say "they have some gigantic streak.." I mean the enemy. You get bonus gold for killing someone on a streak of 3+. Regardless, it doesn't matter in pubs.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 07 2011 16:44 GMT
#30756
if someone is close to a genocide or an immortal the team should let them as the team will get extra silver and xp in the end for it. But outside of that unless it's super late game and the carry needs more gold saying someone ksed you is bullshit, every hero needs early game gold and short of someone just being tb sitting in well waiting to ult to get a kill it's hardly ever the case someone is trying to take kills from you just to troll.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 07 2011 17:49 GMT
#30757
On September 07 2011 22:56 Denzil wrote:
Does the Teamliquid channel and stuff still exist for HoN or has it kind of died down?


So someone answers it. Or is there another channel where the TL guys hang out?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
September 07 2011 17:50 GMT
#30758
On September 08 2011 02:49 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 22:56 Denzil wrote:
Does the Teamliquid channel and stuff still exist for HoN or has it kind of died down?


So someone answers it. Or is there another channel where the TL guys hang out?

Clan Teamliquid. It's very active.

I thought someone already answered you.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 07 2011 20:07 GMT
#30759
On September 08 2011 01:23 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 00:55 Boblion wrote:
I'm still amazed by the amount of retards playing this game.
I mean BGHing on US East feels good compared to HoN.

Worst things are the carries who yell "ward" all game ( even if you are warding ), cry about ks when you are just trying to help and never say thanks for the assists and saves. Ofc they will never forget to blame you if you lose a team fight.

At least in bw when someone was talking shit all game you could always 1x1 after lol.

Last night, I was playing andro, and a valk and DR were chasing someone down, the valk and DR having basically zero mana. I cut the guy(i think it was a PR with phase boots) off of the tower, and dropped my q on her, trying to stun her so they could finish it off. Well, apparently a level 4 andro q ability takes a lot of hp off of a level 8 PR, so it killed her. Immediately both the DR and valk start bitching at me for kill stealing. -_-

Sounds like you maxed her stun first. Aurora Aurora Aurora!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 07 2011 21:16 GMT
#30760
On September 08 2011 05:07 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 01:23 Sm3agol wrote:
On September 08 2011 00:55 Boblion wrote:
I'm still amazed by the amount of retards playing this game.
I mean BGHing on US East feels good compared to HoN.

Worst things are the carries who yell "ward" all game ( even if you are warding ), cry about ks when you are just trying to help and never say thanks for the assists and saves. Ofc they will never forget to blame you if you lose a team fight.

At least in bw when someone was talking shit all game you could always 1x1 after lol.

Last night, I was playing andro, and a valk and DR were chasing someone down, the valk and DR having basically zero mana. I cut the guy(i think it was a PR with phase boots) off of the tower, and dropped my q on her, trying to stun her so they could finish it off. Well, apparently a level 4 andro q ability takes a lot of hp off of a level 8 PR, so it killed her. Immediately both the DR and valk start bitching at me for kill stealing. -_-

Sounds like you maxed her stun first. Aurora Aurora Aurora!


Ya your other two moves are more important then maxing the stun first, the stun duration stays the same throughout all 4 levels. Recommended guide is correct for her
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