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macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 08 2011 11:42 GMT
#30781
who the heck max aura before stun and wave?
early game is about burst. All the percent based damage stuff is good for mid and late game.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
September 08 2011 11:53 GMT
#30782
i max out aura before stun since you get +200 magic dmg on one and +30% base dmg on the other which works out at like 5 hits to mobs under the effects of your aurora herrrrrrrp :O
Meh.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17637 Posts
September 08 2011 12:03 GMT
#30783
On September 08 2011 20:42 macmann wrote:
who the heck max aura before stun and wave?
early game is about burst. All the percent based damage stuff is good for mid and late game.


The way andro is being used in HoN currently it's better to go 1/4/4 (apply ult as necessary) with her. She'll most likely be just supporting a tri-lane or roaming. Either way, stun lvl 1 is all you need (just for the stun, not damage), aurora's damage isn't that important, what counts is debuffs and vision it gives. Aura is great for team fights and helping your carry farm.
Once again, andro isn't there to deal damage herself, she's there to enhance others and set up kills with swap/stun.

By the way, go watch Duskbin vs Complexity game 2 on honcast right now. All I can say is that this game has over 2 deaths/minute in it and it's just non-stop action. Both teams suddenly deciding to screw the laning phase and just go kill stuff is awesome. I mean, how cool can 50 hero kills be at 20 minute mark?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 08 2011 12:24 GMT
#30784
On September 08 2011 21:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 20:42 macmann wrote:
who the heck max aura before stun and wave?
early game is about burst. All the percent based damage stuff is good for mid and late game.


The way andro is being used in HoN currently it's better to go 1/4/4 (apply ult as necessary) with her. She'll most likely be just supporting a tri-lane or roaming. Either way, stun lvl 1 is all you need (just for the stun, not damage), aurora's damage isn't that important, what counts is debuffs and vision it gives. Aura is great for team fights and helping your carry farm.
Once again, andro isn't there to deal damage herself, she's there to enhance others and set up kills with swap/stun.

By the way, go watch Duskbin vs Complexity game 2 on honcast right now. All I can say is that this game has over 2 deaths/minute in it and it's just non-stop action. Both teams suddenly deciding to screw the laning phase and just go kill stuff is awesome. I mean, how cool can 50 hero kills be at 20 minute mark?

Also odds are you won't even hit level 14 ^^ Just sit back, throw out an aurora, and swap out someone when necessary
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#30785
I max aura, however in certain situations, say your dual or trilaning with a nuker such as Pyromancer and facing a healing hero such as DS or Jereziah then I would max the stun for the increased burst.

Most of time I'd do aura, although that may just be force of habit.
Adonai bless
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 08 2011 15:00 GMT
#30786
820 retires.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 08 2011 16:53 GMT
#30787
On September 08 2011 21:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 20:42 macmann wrote:
who the heck max aura before stun and wave?
early game is about burst. All the percent based damage stuff is good for mid and late game.


The way andro is being used in HoN currently it's better to go 1/4/4 (apply ult as necessary) with her. She'll most likely be just supporting a tri-lane or roaming. Either way, stun lvl 1 is all you need (just for the stun, not damage), aurora's damage isn't that important, what counts is debuffs and vision it gives. Aura is great for team fights and helping your carry farm.
Once again, andro isn't there to deal damage herself, she's there to enhance others and set up kills with swap/stun.

By the way, go watch Duskbin vs Complexity game 2 on honcast right now. All I can say is that this game has over 2 deaths/minute in it and it's just non-stop action. Both teams suddenly deciding to screw the laning phase and just go kill stuff is awesome. I mean, how cool can 50 hero kills be at 20 minute mark?

I guess you didn't watch Hanni's game yesterday, that game has 7 kills, 2 kongor attemp in 2 minutes lol
But yeah HoN is an action-packed game, way more fun than dota or lol
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
September 08 2011 17:25 GMT
#30788
On September 09 2011 01:53 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:03 Manit0u wrote:
On September 08 2011 20:42 macmann wrote:
who the heck max aura before stun and wave?
early game is about burst. All the percent based damage stuff is good for mid and late game.


The way andro is being used in HoN currently it's better to go 1/4/4 (apply ult as necessary) with her. She'll most likely be just supporting a tri-lane or roaming. Either way, stun lvl 1 is all you need (just for the stun, not damage), aurora's damage isn't that important, what counts is debuffs and vision it gives. Aura is great for team fights and helping your carry farm.
Once again, andro isn't there to deal damage herself, she's there to enhance others and set up kills with swap/stun.

By the way, go watch Duskbin vs Complexity game 2 on honcast right now. All I can say is that this game has over 2 deaths/minute in it and it's just non-stop action. Both teams suddenly deciding to screw the laning phase and just go kill stuff is awesome. I mean, how cool can 50 hero kills be at 20 minute mark?

I guess you didn't watch Hanni's game yesterday, that game has 7 kills, 2 kongor attemp in 2 minutes lol
But yeah HoN is an action-packed game, way more fun than dota or lol


can we please not?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17637 Posts
September 08 2011 18:14 GMT
#30789
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17637 Posts
September 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#30790
If you're not watching MSI vs OK @ honcast right now you're missing on a great deal of awesomeness.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
hongyLOVE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
September 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#30791
On September 09 2011 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?


nullstone is basically anti succubus.

but also has anyone else been having ridiculous queue times? when i have a party of 3-5 queue is usually 15 minutes +..
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 21:13:09
September 08 2011 21:12 GMT
#30792
On September 09 2011 06:07 hongyLOVE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?


nullstone is basically anti succubus.

but also has anyone else been having ridiculous queue times? when i have a party of 3-5 queue is usually 15 minutes +..


Really? You can just use smitten to take null down.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#30793
I dont watch competitive hon as much as i should. is breaky considered one of the better casters? and whos the person casting along with him?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
September 08 2011 21:24 GMT
#30794
Breaky has a good casting voice, but his game knowledge isn't that good, plus when he's cameraman, he'll often miss a lot of the action. That's why he usually has a cocaster who knows the game very well.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
September 08 2011 21:32 GMT
#30795
you mean a shit co-caster and then a competitive player that knows the game very well
hongyLOVE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
September 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#30796
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 09 2011 06:12 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:07 hongyLOVE wrote:
On September 09 2011 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?


nullstone is basically anti succubus.

but also has anyone else been having ridiculous queue times? when i have a party of 3-5 queue is usually 15 minutes +..


Really? You can just use smitten to take null down.

i suppose, but if they also get bkb, your ulti is only good for the hold.. i dont know. not saying succ is bad but i think there are better heroes for her role
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
September 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#30797
by the time it gets to that point, her ulti is only good for the hold regardless. that's also why ulti staff is a horrible pick up for her (adds damage, not grip duration)
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#30798
I just like it when breaky yells whenever kracken ults
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17637 Posts
September 08 2011 22:26 GMT
#30799
On September 09 2011 06:24 ahswtini wrote:
Breaky has a good casting voice, but his game knowledge isn't that good, plus when he's cameraman, he'll often miss a lot of the action. That's why he usually has a cocaster who knows the game very well.


Pretty much sums it up nicely. But you gotta love the insight the pros he invites to co-cast have. Swindlemelonzz especially as he's not just an awesome player but he's also really enthusiastic about casting and shares a lot of pro-wisdom on us noobs. I really like it how he casually mentions stuff like getting boots and wards at start (support on hellbourne) and rushing down immediately, then selling the boots for full refund after 13 sec. All this so you can ward bottom legion spawn before they can really counter it effectively and be back home to buy stuff before the first wave comes out.

P. S.

Man, Online Kingdom is so baller.
+ Show Spoiler [OK vs MSI] +

Game 3, all on the line and OK goes: fuck jungle, fuck carry, fuck tri-lane. They went 1-2-2 pub-style.
Freaking ownage game.

Also, when's the last time you've seen 0-8 N0tail on Silhouette?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:12:28
September 08 2011 23:04 GMT
#30800
On September 09 2011 07:26 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:24 ahswtini wrote:
Breaky has a good casting voice, but his game knowledge isn't that good, plus when he's cameraman, he'll often miss a lot of the action. That's why he usually has a cocaster who knows the game very well.


Pretty much sums it up nicely. But you gotta love the insight the pros he invites to co-cast have. Swindlemelonzz especially as he's not just an awesome player but he's also really enthusiastic about casting and shares a lot of pro-wisdom on us noobs. I really like it how he casually mentions stuff like getting boots and wards at start (support on hellbourne) and rushing down immediately, then selling the boots for full refund after 13 sec. All this so you can ward bottom legion spawn before they can really counter it effectively and be back home to buy stuff before the first wave comes out.

P. S.

Man, Online Kingdom is so baller.
+ Show Spoiler [OK vs MSI] +

Game 3, all on the line and OK goes: fuck jungle, fuck carry, fuck tri-lane. They went 1-2-2 pub-style.
Freaking ownage game.

Also, when's the last time you've seen 0-8 N0tail on Silhouette?

He went 0-7 against SK (old EG) with bdiz (i think) destroying him mid with witchslayer. He then ended the game like 12-7 :p

Swindle has great game knowledge - he is a pro; but there isn't a lot to say about his personality :/ anyway.. WHP5 now = eZ?

In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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