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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:45:20
September 08 2011 23:31 GMT
#30801
On September 09 2011 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?

Ult is channeling and is broken easily. Needs too much farm since she uses too much mana and needs good positioning to ult efficiently. A support can just take off her sleep on a carry or other hero with lots of dmg. She's very bad at stopping pushes but she can do decently in the midgame with strong ganks but not very good in 5v5 or even 4v4 skirmishes. Also she takes ages to cast a spell so you'll always get interrupted before you get to cast anything. Basically doesn't contribute anything except for awesome small ganks and teams will take advantage of succ's weaknesses. She hits like 60 dmg at level 1 for some reason
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17872 Posts
September 08 2011 23:48 GMT
#30802
Thanks for clarifying it up
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
September 08 2011 23:50 GMT
#30803
korok plays succubus mid all the time
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 09 2011 00:01 GMT
#30804
On September 09 2011 08:50 Diizzy wrote:
korok plays succubus mid all the time


In comp play?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
September 09 2011 00:10 GMT
#30805
On September 09 2011 08:31 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
To get things back on track quickly:

Why do you guys think isn't Succubus used in competetive scene? She seems like a pretty good support (and I'm in love with her) with decent nuke, debuff and 2 disables.
Is she not viable at all or the abundance of better picks makes her unpickable at the top of the game?

Ult is channeling and is broken easily. Needs too much farm since she uses too much mana and needs good positioning to ult efficiently. A support can just take off her sleep on a carry or other hero with lots of dmg. She's very bad at stopping pushes but she can do decently in the midgame with strong ganks but not very good in 5v5 or even 4v4 skirmishes. Also she takes ages to cast a spell so you'll always get interrupted before you get to cast anything. Basically doesn't contribute anything except for awesome small ganks and teams will take advantage of succ's weaknesses. She hits like 60 dmg at level 1 for some reason


Have to give her something other than a strong true damage nuke.

Raped many many sss with her.
Stuck.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#30806
In comp play you basically don't get a full Ultimate off except in small 1-2 man ganks. Unlike it pubs someone normally saves a stun for you and then you're down to sleep which supports can take for themselves and Heartache which is strong but not enough.

Some sexy combos with Valk though doing Sleep-Arrow. Also fun to do with a friend is Succubs/Devourer lane, Sleep-Hook is awesome.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 00:25:42
September 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#30807
On September 09 2011 09:01 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:50 Diizzy wrote:
korok plays succubus mid all the time


In comp play?

Yes. He tried her vs MSI definitely, and at other times I've heard about his play of it. (A certain player missed an arrow on a slept pollywog priest... which was rather impressive, I thought).

With a hero like succubus I'm pretty sure the reason she's not played more is amount of coordination sleep takes - and player preference. Watching SK play, there were multiple times where korok slept himself to get his team to try and kill polly wards, while they just ran around him - and a single moment of miscommunication results in a useless hero. She dominates pretty much any hero mid but has a hard time farming compared to many and relies on being able to gank.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
September 09 2011 00:24 GMT
#30808
Korok definitely has used succubus in competitive play; i have only seen it twice and the first time he completely destroyed and dominated with it the other time it didn't work out.

I think she is very situational but definitely has her place. I mean sleep conduit combo is hilarious in pubs :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#30809
On September 09 2011 09:22 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:01 Risen wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:50 Diizzy wrote:
korok plays succubus mid all the time


In comp play?

Yes. He tried her vs MSI definitely, and at other times I've heard about his play of it. (A certain player missed an arrow on a slept pollywog priest... which was rather impressive, I thought).

With a hero like succubus I'm pretty sure the reason she's not played more is amount of coordination sleep takes - and player preference. Watching SK play, there were multiple times where korok slept himself to get his team to try and kill polly wards, while they just ran around him - and a single moment of miscommunication results in a useless hero. She dominates pretty much any hero mid but has a hard time farming compared to many and relies on being able to gank.

Heh if you think that's impressive you haven't seen me play
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 01:10:50
September 09 2011 01:10 GMT
#30810
On September 09 2011 09:26 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 09:22 Nevuk wrote:
On September 09 2011 09:01 Risen wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:50 Diizzy wrote:
korok plays succubus mid all the time


In comp play?

Yes. He tried her vs MSI definitely, and at other times I've heard about his play of it. (A certain player missed an arrow on a slept pollywog priest... which was rather impressive, I thought).

With a hero like succubus I'm pretty sure the reason she's not played more is amount of coordination sleep takes - and player preference. Watching SK play, there were multiple times where korok slept himself to get his team to try and kill polly wards, while they just ran around him - and a single moment of miscommunication results in a useless hero. She dominates pretty much any hero mid but has a hard time farming compared to many and relies on being able to gank.

Heh if you think that's impressive you haven't seen me play




Go to about 1:25 to see some amazing valk play.

Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
September 09 2011 08:08 GMT
#30811
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=14273660&postcount=114

HoN 3.0, get hype!
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 09 2011 09:44 GMT
#30812
On September 09 2011 00:00 rabidch wrote:
820 retires.



might be coming back tho

"The reason I left was to give myself a temporary break, to relieve whatever pressure has built up since the beginning of the year."
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 09 2011 11:11 GMT
#30813
Can't log in.

Account hacked or S2 being S2 ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
September 09 2011 11:26 GMT
#30814
I can't log on either. S2 be getting on my nerves. Shitty servers, silly game changes, and now the entire game not working when I want to play :@. HOPE DOTATWO WORKS BETTER
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
September 09 2011 11:28 GMT
#30815
Pretty sure this is scheduled maintenance. Has been a sticky about it on forums all day.
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
September 09 2011 12:49 GMT
#30816
So what's the best way of going about gathering all the Heroes in Hon? Just win in pubs alot?
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#30817
Buy a legacy account off the Hon Reddit.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 09 2011 12:52 GMT
#30818
buying a used legacy account

pissing money at s2

or playing a lot (a lot a lot)

pretty much your only options
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 13:43:31
September 09 2011 13:43 GMT
#30819
On September 09 2011 21:52 Dead9 wrote:
buying a used legacy account

pissing money at s2

or playing a lot (a lot a lot)

pretty much your only options

Bet you're happy you have 19 accounts now aren't you. Sell them before they lose value

Btw how much can I sell an account for? I have ~3k silver coins on it too!
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
September 09 2011 14:42 GMT
#30820
On September 09 2011 20:26 Kickstart wrote:
I can't log on either. S2 be getting on my nerves. Shitty servers, silly game changes, and now the entire game not working when I want to play :@. HOPE DOTATWO WORKS BETTER

They said that there would be scheduled maintenance from 5-9am EST. There was a in-game message and a thread stickied on the forum. Shitty players, silly reading comprehension, and now the entire game is being patched when I sleep.
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