[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1277

On March 28 2008 01:14 Ack1027 wrote:
Note: Some heroes fall under more than one category, and some heroes like necrolyte can be used in a solo lane if you're playing on a really skilled team. Goes along the lines of what I said earlier about you need 5 who can play everything and you can start getting really imaginative. People even run solo rooftrellen. There are some overlapping roles, but be assured they are all present.

Solo: Not necessarily your carry, but a hero that is able to lane alone vs multiple people. Usually ends up being carry
Examples: Silencer, Zeus, Mag, PotM, Shadowfiend, Viper, QoP, BM, Puck, Warlock

Support: Heroes that are able to buy wards, buy chicken/crow, in early game start the initiates, are able to amplify your carry/solo's effectiveness.
Examples: CM, Tauren, Necro, Omni, Lina, Sven, Lesh, CK, SK, Skel King, Levi, Pugna, Tiny, Ogre Magi.... Generally, all str heroes since the majority of them have stuns. Support is a general term that encompasses all heroes that are not there to carry/solo/jungle.

Support Secondary Carry: Heroes that are inherently support OR are not able to start dealing decent damage until about midgame. It is very possible for these heroes to outclass and out dps your main carry but usually require sick items or farming time alone. Desolator is great on some of these heroes because it helps as the game progresses, and they don't have to actually farm for mkb,radiance,buriza etc.
Examples: PotM, Furion, Magnus laning, Puck, Fiend, Razor, Sniper, Bane Elemental, Weaver, Juggernaught

Carry: This should be obvious, the heroes that can win the game for you in the long run. Whether through jungle or solo or lane.
Examples: Mag, Terrorblade, Luna, Void, Spectre, Silencer, Fiend, almost all agi heroes.

Pusher: Pushers are usually only good when they provide two roles [like pugna for ward support and mek] or your team is trying to win a more fast paced game with an all push lineup. Mek is a really nice item on some these heroes.
Examples: THD, Pugna, Avernus, Furion, KotL, Bane, Warlock, WD

Initiator: Mostly blink aoe stunners or someone who can start the team fights/ganks off.
Examples: Any stunner... The best are blink aoe stunners like Tauren, Mag, Levi
Then there's void with chrono, Beastmaster's roar, Warlock's infernal, Centaur's blink stun, Pudge's hook, Bane's sleep and fiends grip with necros out

Follow up initiator: Many overlap from the initator category but are MORE effective if there's a primary initiator on your team:
Examples: Sand king blinking in with epi burrow after any initiator, Silencer's global, CM's ult, Levi

Ganker Roamer: Some heroes are able to almost exclusively roam which provides two benefits, 1 two solo on your team, granted they can handle it [ again alluding to my point ] and 2, rune control and keeps the other team guessing. If you play these expect not to get stacked items.
Examples: Venomancer, BH, VS, Chen, Sven, Skel King

Jungle: Jungle is a really awesome technique. Provides 2 solos, money not stolen, if done correctly a faster way to level than even a solo could + more money and no denies. Must know how neutral spawns work in order to double or even triple stack. Also can double or triple stack ancients.
Examples: Furion if not bothered and BM are by far probably the best junglers, I'll explain in the next category. In .48b you can crow yourself a full bottle so if someone buys it for you almost anyone can jungle but I'll list the classic ones/most effective. BB, Juggernaught, Terrorblade, Luna, Ursa, Centaur.

Jungle ganker: This is a nice role too. Most junglers are simply unable to help gank in between jungling because they don't have the hp or the versatility to move around. BM and Furion are the best simply because of maphawk roar and quillbeast for BM and furion can tp anywhere. If furion is completely left alone he is absolutely the easiest jungle hero. You can triple stack all 3-4 spawns in your area with created treants with a little micro. Not to mention he has a global that can hit anyone in his vision [ done correctly ] and is able to tp anywhere non fogged.

Hope that helped some people out, was a lot to type. Anyway, that's not the SOLE way to view this game but that's how I see it when you talk about roles and lineups. I couldn't list every single hero but I tried to list the most common ones. A lot of people fail to realize these different roles and try to stick heroes in a role they simply are not able to excel in.

On March 28 2008 07:54 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Btw Ack make more long posts, gives something nice and helpful to read