EPTWhen you've played enough games to easily gauge most situations with competency, it's better to emphasize a passive style because your experience is the key to winning battles. Sure, you can be aggressive because you know you can, but aggression is by far a short-term strategy because being aggressive forces you into unknown territory and jumping into a fight with an instant disadvantage will lose you so many battles.
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paper
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When you've played enough games to easily gauge most situations with competency, it's better to emphasize a passive style because your experience is the key to winning battles. Sure, you can be aggressive because you know you can, but aggression is by far a short-term strategy because being aggressive forces you into unknown territory and jumping into a fight with an instant disadvantage will lose you so many battles. | ||
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
Merlini is playing for SK vs reason right now in Gosugamers tournament right now! For those of you who have no idea who merlini is | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Some of the most dominating teams we have ever seen: VP, MYM, SMM Winners, Chinese teams have been focused around aggressive play. When you begin playing, you don't know when to be aggressive or not and just randomly starting to be aggressive doesn't help you learn faster when you can and can't be aggressive. If you begin by playing passive then you learn when they go aggressive on you and know when it works or not which you can apply to your own game play. Basic sc analogy: If you are zerg, you won't learn the game very well if you 6 pool every game and determine when you can't. You can always 6 pool, just like you can always be aggressive in dota. Instead being passive and getting 6 pooled yourself will let you know when it works and when it doesn't. As for the 2nd part. When you play enough to recognize situations with competency you will be aggressive when it calls for it because it is not a short term strategy. Specifically regarding the Chinese teams and the farm era. You might call that passive, but in the lane they are aggressive as VP or SP or any russian team ever was. Only from that point do they aggressively force you into a situation where you had to push or lose your own towers while 1 person farmed like a boss. That is strategy aggression and it made a lot of balance changes happen. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I sorry. Fucking merlini. waaahhhh real life waaaaahhh i quit competitive dota. oh hon tym. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
don't give a fuck, play dota. haters gonna hate. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I just want him to admit that Hon takes less time/dedication so he can prioritize irl ;D Edit: I don't see how haters gonna hate even applies to this scenario >_> | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
edit:and sk asked to concede ;o edit2: apparantly era playing ;o. Pretty shady stuff goin on here edit3: apparant proofz?: http://www.ploader.net/files/ad53c6b55dd5d413dc9a51a6accf6513.png lol at swindle bein all over your nuts though testie. 4: testie starts up his stream says that fogged ditched them after 1st game, card was afk, so tralf says "hey we can just have era play". 5. http://i55.tinypic.com/20hppw3.png | ||
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
Especially if they had the chance to get their own players. Or at least he should have played under his real account as ringer. | ||
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Shinbi
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
Their proof, sucks that they had to ruin a good series by not telling them they were using a ringer. =/ | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:48 Nitrogen wrote: i meant about starting to play dota/hon for the first time I'll stop posting since apparently I'm not picking up on anything today @_@ | ||
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DarkOptik
452 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:57 Dacendoran wrote: http://ploader.net/files/ad53c6b55dd5d413dc9a51a6accf6513.png Their proof, sucks that they had to ruin a good series by not telling them they were using a ringer. =/ That being said, there wouldn't be a series if they didn't use a ringer: that is, if Card was really afk and Fogged had to go. Just would've ended after game 1. They probably should've just told them (Rea/GG) straight up for the second match: at least that way they forfeit one match and still win one, and now they're probably going to just get disqualified. And hell, maybe Rea or GG would've allowed them. THAT BEING SAID, I would've preferred them to have finished the game first, rather than concede mid game. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Slakkoo
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 09 2011 02:16 tube wrote: fucking around is a skill you need in tl dota or else your teammates rage at you all game and continue to do so afterwards dont farm, sit with tuskar and wait for the pubs to get stupid enough to try to last hit even though they saw you and 2 of your allies go to side shop 3 of your allies died and the last one is about to die to their entire team? fuck leaving, stick around and give him that much-needed vampiric aura so that he can get a few tens of hp back when he makes that last hit right before he dies, that will make all the difference in tl dota someone says lets rosh and your ally is on the cliff right next to rosh? ping the fuck out of him and tell him to go rosh over and over even though you yourself are sitting at fountain recharging mana but nah, i don't know anything, im just a fucking korean massive rice farmer 1. you were farming 2. you were farming and had you initiated with us that wouldn't have happened 3. you were farming, leoric makes rosh easy. | ||
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tube
United States1475 Posts
2. what do you mean had i initiated, they came to push our first tier mid tower while i was at a side lane, and when they came i was on my way; nor does that change the fact that a few of you just started bitching at me for leaving the lost teamfight so that i could die with you? 3. no i wasn't, i was on the cliff right next to rosh, if anyone still has that replay i would ask them to confirm for me also my entire point was that you guys repeatedly just got really mad for seemingly no reason, and we weren't even in danger of losing the entire game yet somehow people started raging at me for not constantly following them | ||
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RLTY
United States965 Posts
On May 09 2011 07:43 tube wrote: 1. of course i was farming, did you even read that segment 2. what do you mean had i initiated, they came to push our first tier mid tower while i was at a side lane, and when they came i was on my way; nor does that change the fact that a few of you just started bitching at me for leaving the lost teamfight so that i could die with you? 3. no i wasn't, i was on the cliff right next to rosh, if anyone still has that replay i would ask them to confirm for me also my entire point was that you guys repeatedly just got really mad for seemingly no reason, and we weren't even in danger of losing the entire game yet somehow people started raging at me for not constantly following them We were mad at you because we were playing a strategy and you weren't. It's that simple. | ||
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
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