• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:19
CEST 04:19
KST 11:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off6[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax5Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris30Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
No Rain in ASL20? BW General Discussion Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off
Tourneys
[IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! [ASL20] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3172 users

[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1276

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1274 1275 1276 1277 1278 1664 Next
Groslouser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France337 Posts
May 07 2011 18:09 GMT
#25501
On May 08 2011 02:19 TheWarbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 02:18 Sm3agol wrote:
I just got HoN, and was wondering if anyone had any starting tips/good places to play etc. I watched someone stream this and it look really fun.


http://www.honcast.com/ for all hon-related casts/streams


Also gamereplay/honcast have a lot of streamers, several of them being pros. They also have vods on their youtube channel, you can find there a lot of commentated matches from high tier to lower tier games.

You can also check the official hon forums or nerdstomper for guides and other stuff (nerdstomper has video guides made by pros, you might want to check them out).
Moony
Profile Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
May 07 2011 18:11 GMT
#25502
anyone know anything about whether s2 is actually doing anything about this?
facebook.com/macromicrogaming
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 07 2011 18:12 GMT
#25503
On May 08 2011 02:18 Sm3agol wrote:
I just got HoN, and was wondering if anyone had any starting tips/good places to play etc. I watched someone stream this and it look really fun.


tip: don't get upset at stuff you cannot control. this includes bad teammates, unlucky string of misses, server spikes/ping and so on.
it makes no sense, and plus people rage way too much in hon already anyway.

places to play: just play nostats to get a feeling for the game and an idea of what all the heroes are so you can recognize what they can do to you on sight. then hop right into MM, preferably with people who will give you right advice but solo MM is a (less desirable) possibility too.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
paperstreet
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
May 07 2011 19:36 GMT
#25504
if anyone wants to do tmm or ih hit me up

account: paperstreet
proxy561
Profile Joined September 2010
92 Posts
May 07 2011 19:39 GMT
#25505
Any word on HoN? Last few times i looked it was offline. Just me? or others too?
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
May 07 2011 20:12 GMT
#25506
On May 08 2011 04:39 proxy561 wrote:
Any word on HoN? Last few times i looked it was offline. Just me? or others too?

Working fine now.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 07 2011 23:22 GMT
#25507
Solo queueing if you're above 1800 takes soooo long
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 08 2011 02:09 GMT
#25508
On May 08 2011 04:36 paperstreet wrote:
if anyone wants to do tmm or ih hit me up

account: paperstreet


A CHALLENGER APPEARS!
Hates Fun🤔
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 08 2011 02:29 GMT
#25509
On May 08 2011 11:09 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 04:36 paperstreet wrote:
if anyone wants to do tmm or ih hit me up

account: paperstreet


A CHALLENGER APPEARS!


HAHAHA I saw this and was like oh shit roogie has a illegitimate child.
Get it by your hands...
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 02:51:25
May 08 2011 02:50 GMT
#25510
Can you believe that it's been almost a year since Tadzio closed the thread for 24 hours and purged LMNOP?

Can you believe that Insane once threatened to close this thread because he was using INTERNET EXPLORER and the first page took too long to load for him?

Can you believe that the closed LoL thread is still longer than this thread by almost 200 pages?
Hates Fun🤔
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 08 2011 03:00 GMT
#25511
i think we should close this thread with one post on the1337th page
then open up a subforum, LoL Plus Skill or something, idk
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
May 08 2011 03:18 GMT
#25512
Ok, after playing for a while.......what are the roles of the different classes. For instance, what kind of hero goes mid? What kind of hero can solo fine? What is the "accepted" configuration, 2 per side and one mid? How does a hero like the blacksmith have any use at all? What is a good hero for a n00b to choose?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 08 2011 03:42 GMT
#25513
On May 08 2011 12:18 Sm3agol wrote:
Ok, after playing for a while.......what are the roles of the different classes. For instance, what kind of hero goes mid? What kind of hero can solo fine? What is the "accepted" configuration, 2 per side and one mid? How does a hero like the blacksmith have any use at all? What is a good hero for a n00b to choose?


Roogie, you need to link the answer to these kind of questions in the front.
Get it by your hands...
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 08 2011 04:32 GMT
#25514
I don't know if you're joking or not but if someone writes/finds a decent guide, I'll copy/paste or link it to the OP!
Hates Fun🤔
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 08 2011 05:04 GMT
#25515
On May 08 2011 13:32 paper wrote:
I don't know if you're joking or not but if someone writes/finds a decent guide, I'll copy/paste or link it to the OP!


Half-serious, it feels like those kind of questions we got for DotA are being repeated for HoN, someone needs to write something.
Get it by your hands...
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 08 2011 05:08 GMT
#25516
If everyone in our clan actually posted in this thread (I don't even think they know it exists) we would easily have our own subforum.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 08 2011 05:09 GMT
#25517
1500 scrub here,

For instance, what kind of hero goes mid?

Qualities you look for in a mid hero are usually:

1. Can farm effectively with skills or high early game attack damage
1a. Can last hit effectively despite harass (high hp/armor/defensive skills)
2. Can harass/burst down enemy quickly (spammable nukes, etc)
3. Relies heavily on being as high a level as quickly as possible (pebbles, hag, many more)
4. Is capable of rune control (blinks, stuns, etc)

The more of these qualities the hero has, the better. For example, Tundra is a good mid hero because his Q is a spammable (with a bottle) nuke that eats creeps like nothing. He has a good snare with one pet and can scout for runes with the other. His ultimate is almost always a guaranteed death for most heroes, especially under leveled side lane supports. Bad mid heroes are the ones that have very little to zero farming/harassing ability in the early game and rely on a lane partner to assist in getting creep kills (Scout, Magebane, Dark Lady).

As far as heroes that can solo... if you mean versus more than one other hero then you want a hero that has a good escape mechanism and can manage a decent farm by utilizing their skills. (Bubbles, Wretched Hag, Pharaoh). If they do not possess these two qualities they are probably not an ideal solo hero. Slither is kind of an exception but he has good push ability as well as some of the most annoying harass in the game. At your level, the only time you will see a solo hero is if somebody is jungling. You will (almost always at your level) want to solo bottom for Legion, top for Hellbourne. Look up how to creep pull the neutrals into your lane to deny exp and keep the creeps closer to your tower to farm safer.

What is the "accepted" configuration, 2 per side and one mid?


At your level and for 99% of the games you will play until you become a professional, yes. Rather recently (lol, like the past year or more) the pros have been tri-laning. The idea behind it is to send a carry and two supports to a side lane so your carry can farm without any trouble. The supports usually have one or more stuns (behemoth, myrmidon). But you won't have to worry about tri-laning probably ever. It will be either be 2-1-2 or 2-1-1 with one in the jungle.

How does a hero like the blacksmith have any use at all?


I'm probably not qualified enough to answer this question. He's almost never seen in the competitive scene. At lower levels pretty much every hero is viable, though. He has some ridiculous burst but relies heavily on RNG to accomplish it.

What is a good hero for a n00b to choose?


Plague Rider is probably the best newbie hero. His high early game movespeed will help you survive from the many many positional mistakes you will make as a newbie. His W scales into late game and his ult if well placed can net you a bunch of kills and assists and is one of the nastiest spells in the game especially against other newbies who won't spread out when you cast it. You can look at the HoN forums because I'm sure if you search there are numerous threads on this for you to look at. I would generally advise against going Pyromancer as a newbie unless you feel comfortable landing his skill-shot stun and are good at shift-queuing commands.

OKAY I didn't proofread this or anything and I'm not exactly a good player but I like to think I have a decent understanding of the game. People are welcome to correct me or add onto things I said. I only scratched the surface in my post.
Chains none
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 05:11:59
May 08 2011 05:11 GMT
#25518
On May 08 2011 12:18 Sm3agol wrote:
Ok, after playing for a while.......what are the roles of the different classes. For instance, what kind of hero goes mid? What kind of hero can solo fine? What is the "accepted" configuration, 2 per side and one mid? How does a hero like the blacksmith have any use at all? What is a good hero for a n00b to choose?


Hey.
A hero that goes mid is usually a hero that can use the extra levels they gain from the solo xp to a huge advantage, like a ganker. THis means that by getting those extra levels they can help destroy side lanes and push the "advantage" so that their teammates have an advantage.
Another hero that can go mid is a pushing type of hero, a hero that needs lvl 6 to really push down towers basically forcing the opposing sides mid hero to either give up the tower or sit in lane and try to hold the push. (pollywog and defiler).
The last? type of hero is a hero that can farm solo extremely well like soulstealer, thus there is no reason for them to put them in a sidelane.

A hero that can solo fine is usually one that has either a long range move so that it can farm comfortably away from the enemy heroes, or a hero with an escape move, ye i know it doesn't make sense but whatever. Blacksmith has a slow a stun and an attack speed boost for you carry, there are of course heroes that are basically useless in 99percent of circumstances but that doesn't mean that they are 100percent useless.

Best hero in my opinion for a noob to choose is plague riders, seriously you can not do better in a game than plague rider. he has a high movespeed, a decently easy to master spell set and a gamechanging ultimate. I remember when i first started dota i played Lich only for like 30games and would destroy noob only games. Another hero would be witchslayer, assuming that you dont use your ultimate to killsteal and that you level hex over manadrain you will dominate your lane.

I am still an absolute noob at HoN but i have helped many of my freinds get through the rough early stages so i HOPE that my advice can come in handy.

Edit: EPIC NINJA'D
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 08 2011 05:24 GMT
#25519
My biggest piece of advice to a newbie is to NEVER AUTO ATTACK CREEPS unless you are making a dedicated push. For one it is a huge sign you are a newbie, secondly it makes it easier for enemies to deny, and thirdly it will push the lane away from your tower (it really has an exponential effect).

Also, you will die. A lot. You will hear shit talking directed at you and others. A lot. You must focus on NOT dying at any cost (even if it means being away out of exp range or going to tower whenever mid is MIA) and ignoring the assholes. Do not play matchmaking games unless you are sure you have a decent grasp of the game.
Chains none
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#25520
On May 08 2011 14:24 LordWeird wrote:
My biggest piece of advice to a newbie is to NEVER AUTO ATTACK CREEPS unless you are making a dedicated push. For one it is a huge sign you are a newbie, secondly it makes it easier for enemies to deny, and thirdly it will push the lane away from your tower (it really has an exponential effect).

Also, you will die. A lot. You will hear shit talking directed at you and others. A lot. You must focus on NOT dying at any cost (even if it means being away out of exp range or going to tower whenever mid is MIA) and ignoring the assholes. Do not play matchmaking games unless you are sure you have a decent grasp of the game.

NEVER AUTO ATTACK CREEPS ALWAYS (unless its calculated that you will get the last hit). Even if you are pushing always try to get the last hits unless it's really urgent.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Prev 1 1274 1275 1276 1277 1278 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#46
PiGStarcraft420
SteadfastSC147
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft420
Nina 215
SteadfastSC 147
NeuroSwarm 134
RuFF_SC2 84
ProTech77
Nathanias 66
PattyMac 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 799
NaDa 71
Icarus 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever691
capcasts8
Counter-Strike
taco 189
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox512
Other Games
summit1g8458
tarik_tv7844
shahzam1464
WinterStarcraft626
C9.Mang0408
ViBE259
Maynarde138
ROOTCatZ9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1040
BasetradeTV21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• rockletztv 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt461
Other Games
• Scarra1421
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
7h 41m
hero vs Alone
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
21h 41m
The PondCast
1d 7h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 8h
Clem vs Classic
herO vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
1d 21h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
2 days
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
3 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
SC Evo League
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.