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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
September 24 2024 19:46 GMT
#61
you have to check your email that is binded with your steam to activate it , it won't show in steam client
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
September 24 2024 23:43 GMT
#62
On September 25 2024 04:06 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
https://deadlocktracker.gg/ for checking your hidden mmr btw.

None of the trackers were actually getting Valve's value for hidden MMR (this isn't given to clients or available in any API), they just had their own form of MMR that was estimated based on the games they had seen. This isn't really ever going to be as accurate as an MMR system driven by the thing doing the matchmaking, and especially for tracklock I found the values to be extremely suspect. Valve also killed the way these trackers were viewing game data as of 3 weeks ago, so they are no longer useful or updated (at least until Valve creates an API for deadlock like it has for dota)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
September 25 2024 09:33 GMT
#63
And thank god for that. People forming '1700 MMR parties' etc on the discord when MMR doesn't even exist yet was quite dumb.
Not to mention deadlocktracker and tracklock - the 2 existing tracking sites - gave different values XD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
September 25 2024 12:13 GMT
#64
That's interesting I'm new to all of these.

I do think the hidden mmr exists tho.

My matchmaking opponents are getting much more challenging to beat.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
September 25 2024 23:29 GMT
#65
On September 25 2024 21:13 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
That's interesting I'm new to all of these.

I do think the hidden mmr exists tho.

My matchmaking opponents are getting much more challenging to beat.

Yes, hidden MMR exists and is used by the game for matchmaking (both for the teams/players in the match and also the lane matchups). That much has been confirmed by the devs in the official discord.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7148 Posts
September 26 2024 07:48 GMT
#66
On September 26 2024 08:29 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2024 21:13 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
That's interesting I'm new to all of these.

I do think the hidden mmr exists tho.

My matchmaking opponents are getting much more challenging to beat.

Yes, hidden MMR exists and is used by the game for matchmaking (both for the teams/players in the match and also the lane matchups). That much has been confirmed by the devs in the official discord.


Wait so there are MMRs attached to lanes?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
September 26 2024 14:54 GMT
#67
On September 26 2024 16:48 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2024 08:29 tec27 wrote:
On September 25 2024 21:13 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
That's interesting I'm new to all of these.

I do think the hidden mmr exists tho.

My matchmaking opponents are getting much more challenging to beat.

Yes, hidden MMR exists and is used by the game for matchmaking (both for the teams/players in the match and also the lane matchups). That much has been confirmed by the devs in the official discord.


Wait so there are MMRs attached to lanes?



I think so, I can feel it, the more I play, the better I got my opponents got increasingly harder.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26604 Posts
September 26 2024 15:35 GMT
#68
Thanks for the advice folks by the way! Got it sorted
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
September 26 2024 16:27 GMT
#69
Evolving my play.
Instead of starting urn runs,
I intercept them.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
September 26 2024 21:25 GMT
#70
On September 26 2024 16:48 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2024 08:29 tec27 wrote:
On September 25 2024 21:13 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
That's interesting I'm new to all of these.

I do think the hidden mmr exists tho.

My matchmaking opponents are getting much more challenging to beat.

Yes, hidden MMR exists and is used by the game for matchmaking (both for the teams/players in the match and also the lane matchups). That much has been confirmed by the devs in the official discord.


Wait so there are MMRs attached to lanes?

Yeah, it tries to balance the game such that evenly skilled players are matched up by lane (but obviously depending on who is in the game, this can be hard to do). If you queue with people of wildly different skill level you'll probably notice you end up in a lot of solo lanes and such.

The devs had said a few weeks back that they were working on a new version of the matchmaker that would improve things a fair amount, not sure what changes they plan to make though (or if they're already in or something)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7148 Posts
September 30 2024 08:57 GMT
#71
Rotti was streaming Deadlock yesterday. I think the hype is real
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
September 30 2024 20:03 GMT
#72
game is super addicting, I am about 250 hours since 13th of this month I started playing ;D
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 01 2024 01:01 GMT
#73
Reddit is just really bad these days. Horrible, almost. I'm back to playing a MOBA and posting on good ol' TeamLiquid.

I'm not good at this game, but it's very fun and addicting.
Retvrn to Forvms
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
October 03 2024 06:37 GMT
#74
vindicta support is a little addicting for me :D
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
October 03 2024 09:01 GMT
#75
Yeah I am really impressed. Not just the game but it's way less toxic than the MOBAs I have played.
I also like how big the balance patches are, rather than fine-tuning like it's close to the finishing line
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
October 05 2024 11:57 GMT
#76
That's classic Icefrog (Deadlock game dev who also balances Dota 2)..
Doesn't matter how old the game is, a balance patch will change nearly every hero and nearly every item, and quite frequently he will also bring huge mechanical or map changes.
They'll get less frequent though, right now we seem to get a balance patch every 2 weeks, that'll change as the game gets more polished. It'll be more like a season approach.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
October 05 2024 13:31 GMT
#77
Is there evidence Icefrog is balancing Deadlock?
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
October 06 2024 08:16 GMT
#78
Fair question. Everyone says Icefrog is behind Deadlock, I'm not sure where that originated from or if it was ever officially stated. The wikipedia also says it was "reportedly helmed by" icefrog, based on this article: https://dotesports.com/dota-2/news/breaking-valve-secret-neon-prime-project-could-be-new-sci-fi-dota-game

It sure feels like icefrog balancing, but actual evidence isn't there yet.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 07 2024 05:43 GMT
#79
My favorite is Lash, but I'm not very good with him. Negative win rate. Never end up farmed. But he's so fun.

I've been playing Mcginnis a lot lately. She's not nearly as fun as Lash... but I can abuse the macro game with her. Non stop push and farm. Disregard 90% of what's going on with the team. And people underestimate the power of her turrets.
Retvrn to Forvms
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
October 08 2024 20:47 GMT
#80
Loving McGinnis.
Build purple and farm the map.
Objectives get crushed.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
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