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Copymizer
Denmark2087 Posts
On July 01 2021 19:52 Erasme wrote: I'm kinda sick of those games made with 20shades of grey. I want more color! No thanks, we saw what happened with Diablo 3 when they did that. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On July 02 2021 01:48 Copymizer wrote: No thanks, we saw what happened with Diablo 3 when they did that. The last game blizzard made with real colors was wc3. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17260 Posts
On July 02 2021 04:24 Erasme wrote: The last game blizzard made with real colors was wc3. It was outsourced so not really made by Blizzard. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8656 Posts
On July 02 2021 06:24 Manit0u wrote: It was outsourced so not really made by Blizzard. ive never heard that wc3 wasnt made in blizzard | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8656 Posts
i think the underrated part about d1 and d2 that made the game feel darker/scarier was just how shit your characters were before they got leveled and geared. having to jab at people as amazon for the first few levels just makes you feel pathetic, which is what the actual heroes should feel in the world of diablo. in d3 your characters seem supernatural from very early on | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17260 Posts
On July 02 2021 13:30 evilfatsh1t wrote: ive never heard that wc3 wasnt made in blizzard Reforged graphics were outsourced to Lemon Sky Studios: https://www.lemonskystudios.com/projects/warcraft-3-reforged/ | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On July 02 2021 23:54 Manit0u wrote: Reforged graphics were outsourced to Lemon Sky Studios: https://www.lemonskystudios.com/projects/warcraft-3-reforged/ I don't think he was talking about reforged. And I initially didn't like wc3BC because wc2 was my favorite game and wc3's style was too cartoony for me as well. Blizz has been doing one piece proportions basically ever since they started making 3D-games. WC3 unlike D3 was in everything else more than a worthy successor though. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On July 03 2021 02:18 ProMeTheus112 wrote: I think they were led to this style (cartoony 3D) for war3 or wow due to how well it works with optimization (looks good with low polygon count) which blizzard was always super careful about (all their games typically ran really well on a super wide range of hardware). That might very well be and in hindsight I think it works well for wc3 and WoW. But in difference to wc2 d2 actually had some horror elements like light radius and told it's story from the point of view of someone who was entirely helpless in the massive events he was part of, so horror was part of the gameplay as well as the story. | ||
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Spirral
62 Posts
On July 03 2021 05:22 Archeon wrote: That might very well be and in hindsight I think it works well for wc3 and WoW. But in difference to wc2 d2 actually had some horror elements like light radius and told it's story from the point of view of someone who was entirely helpless in the massive events he was part of, so horror was part of the gameplay as well as the story. What's worth noting here is that Warcraft and Diablo were made by basically different companies. Guys behind Warcraft were the original Blizzard, however Diablo/Diablo 2 were made by Blizzard North, which was a separate company initially (Condor), which was bought by Blizzard and renamed to Blizzard North. Blizzard and Blizzard North had very different styles and did not fully agree in many aspects of development. You can clearly see that Diablo 3 was not made by Blizzard North, but by the original Blizzard, the Warcraft guys. In fact Blizzard North started working on Diablo 3, but the project was discontinued and restarted by Blizzard Entertainment later after most of Blizzard North people left the company. I miss Blizzard North. Sometimes I wonder how Diablo 3 would look like if they were allowed to follow their vision and finish the game. | ||
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Ceraskeen
5 Posts
On July 03 2021 19:12 Spirral wrote: What's worth noting here is that Warcraft and Diablo were made by basically different companies. Guys behind Warcraft were the original Blizzard, however Diablo/Diablo 2 were made by Blizzard North, which was a separate company initially (Condor), which was bought by Blizzard and renamed to Blizzard North. Blizzard and Blizzard North had very different styles and did not fully agree in many aspects of development. You can clearly see that Diablo 3 was not made by Blizzard North, but by the original Blizzard, the Warcraft guys. In fact Blizzard North started working on Diablo 3, but the project was discontinued and restarted by Blizzard Entertainment later after most of Blizzard North people left the company. I miss Blizzard North. Sometimes I wonder how Diablo 3 would look like if they were allowed to follow their vision and finish the game. Flagship Studios was Blizzard North. How did that work out? Pretty sure Blizzard North was also working on Diablo 3, they just couldnt get shit done. Oh, and "Blizzard North" didnt leave, Morhaime just killed the studio. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
"Blizzard North" didnt leave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship_Studios#cite_note-2 "Flagship Studios was formed following the resignation en masse of Blizzard North management following a dispute with Blizzard Entertainment parent company Vivendi regarding the potential fate of the company, development team, and titles, which were in doubt at that time." Don't think that's everyone from Blizzard North but also some of Flagship Studios went on to make Torchlight after. | ||
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Ceraskeen
5 Posts
On July 05 2021 03:39 ProMeTheus112 wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship_Studios#cite_note-2 "Flagship Studios was formed following the resignation en masse of Blizzard North management following a dispute with Blizzard Entertainment parent company Vivendi regarding the potential fate of the company, development team, and titles, which were in doubt at that time." Don't think that's everyone from Blizzard North but also some of Flagship Studios went on to make Torchlight after. Exactly what i said, Morhaime killed the Studio. He was sucking up to Vivendi, wanted to make them happy and not willing to give Blizzard North the "Creative Time" they needed | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
https://kotaku.com/jesse-mcree-diablo-4-director-no-longer-at-activision-1847469113 Development hell here we come. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11517 Posts
On August 13 2021 01:39 Emnjay808 wrote: If D4 is delayed cause they need to get rid of the scum(I’m assuming that’s the reason for departure) in the company then so be it. I would go even further and say that if they don't convincingly show that they got rid of the scum, i am not that interested in D4. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On August 12 2021 23:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Jesse McCrea is gone. https://kotaku.com/jesse-mcree-diablo-4-director-no-longer-at-activision-1847469113 Development hell here we come. And Luis Barriga, which is probably even worse for the game since he was game director | ||
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