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Really wish they drop the layers on 10K~ pops
Even with our population cut in half it's more full than i've ever seen the game before. At the weekend i was running through some cemetary quests in duskwood and we literally had two full 5-man groups competing for ghoul ribs, plus more players to rotate in as people finished quests and left.
We still have the full population for forming premade groups so most of the benefit of a large and consistent population already exists.
It would be nice to see everyone all at once but it would also be god awful to have to log in at 3am if you want to have any murlocs left over to kill.
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yeah overcrowding can happen it's true, when some place gets overcrowded I would just go some place else and do that quest later or not at all, for example. So you could say there's pros and cons. It's hard to see what it's like at 10K pop until you've played it, it can be hardcore sometimes even cause you may get ganked a lot also (typically at lvl20 you may be afraid of stepping into the contested zones cause you'd need some extra levels to survive a lot better basically), but you can also have a really good experience and see interesting action happen in a lot more places and more often.
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It's everywhere - all at once, every day. Quick numbers - currently online alliance players around the 30 to 40 range we have:
Well over 300 people leveling in STV
~138 leveling out of the southshore hub
Hundreds more spread across other hubs like desolace, shimmering flats
+ a large fraction of the population spamming dungeons to level because there are no quest mobs to tag.
The game is just not built to have that happen on a single server/layer!
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The thing is if there's no layers, overcrowded places tend to push players to spread out to other areas and likely you just get more people all over the world rather than a massive overcrowding in one place. Places can still be quite tame on 8K population such as Azshara and others, or even parts of some areas like plaguelands or winterspring which are the more crowded areas at 60. Some roads around searing gorge / blackrock mountain may get semi-hellish at times to be fair.
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How many people does there have to be in each hub with 7 quests for it to be considered broken in your eyes if you wanna go ahead and up it from 65 to 130? :D
How many people are in STV on your realm and faction?
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only 12 right now xD but its late ofc
4pm now: doesn't list more than 50 with /who, there are 36 in 39-45 range, only 20 total in Desolace though for example [not too bad, but it gets low later part of evening for example, or off prime-time]. STV being most crowded in the world along with barrens, it also has large level range.
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That's nothing, we still have 116 at lunchtime on a friday
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My realm is a weird one. Im on Everlook EU, which is PvE. According to that census app two weeks ago it was the most populated server in EU which a decent balance. However it feels basically dead to me since..always. It is impossible to find a tank for a dungeon and when im with my tank and healer buddies it takes us up to 20 minutes to find a mage/rogue. There are very few pug mc/ony runs. At most you can see two per day at 19/20 server time. But what's the most weird to me is that there is never anyone farming the devilsaurs. Whenever i go to ungoro i see almost no one looking for them and if i just afk camp one spot i always get it uncontested. When i actively farmed them to get gold for my mount i got up 100g/h and what little competition i had always went away after an hour or so. Meanwhile other servers seem to have literal mafias that are controlling the market.
Anyway, i just dont understand why people are jerking off so much that they can see dozens of people in the capitals and how that is superior to retail. Yea, there are a lot of people in the capital, because this game has fuck all to do. They are either afk or forced to search for a tank in a fucking chat for an hour to do their shitty dungeon. There are people in retail too you know, they dont waste their time in a capital doing nothing. And it has fuck all to do with sharding. Its not that i like sharding either, i just cant stand this baseless circlejerk. And of course you see more people in the world, they cant fly. And because the game literally just launched. It wont be the same in two or three months. It has fuck all to do with sharding.
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Very easy to get DPS where i am, major shortage of tanks though to the point where i often start groups by finding a tank and then looking for DPS afterwards.
I started leveling a warrior myself but i didn't like it much & my leveling partner had to take a few weeks off. I might level a second paladin to do stuff as Prot :D
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On Earthfury, everything seems nicely populated and putting groups together as a healer hasn’t been too tough. Definite lack of tanks though.
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On October 18 2019 22:45 Warri wrote:Anyway, i just dont understand why people are jerking off so much that they can see dozens of people in the capitals and how that is superior to retail. Yea, there are a lot of people in the capital, because this game has fuck all to do. They are either afk or forced to search for a tank in a fucking chat for an hour to do their shitty dungeon. There are people in retail too you know, they dont waste their time in a capital doing nothing. And it has fuck all to do with sharding. Its not that i like sharding either, i just cant stand this baseless circlejerk. And of course you see more people in the world, they cant fly. And because the game literally just launched. It wont be the same in two or three months. It has fuck all to do with sharding.
Well the amount of people in the capital is mostly just a quick tell for the player density you will find in the rest of the world. [although it feels nice to have a big crowd to dodge your way around town too tbh^^] And that is important for your gameplay especially if you're into wpvp, but I suppose also if you like to coop quests and farming which I do (much rather be farming next to some ally than no one at all). Some of us have played on these realms that had 8K or 10K populations without sharding, we know what it feels like and it indeed is something else. So we can tell it's about sharding too, because we also have experience of playing on 2K population or 5K population, basically you become able to tell about where you are at and where you'd want to be. Some players do prefer lower population however, afaik. I used to have mixed opinion about it, due to the toxicity of forums on Nostalrius for example. But then I tried Elysium, Kronos, Northdale, which all had different populations and the best experience I had was on Northdale which had low corruption (presence of bots though) and high population and it was the best vanilla experience I have seen.
I think there is a ton to do in this game, for me it's all about wpvp. I don't really care about instances, I'm looking for open world action because it is what makes a MMO unique and awesome in my view anyway. So I barely ever go to a dungeon, and never to a raid or even a BG. But I have a lot of fun playing all the time so long as I'm not doing single player farming. It's such a long ride wpvp-ing my way to 60 and after, and there are even so many ways to do it as Druid, that I have only done it that far with Druid a bunch of times (also played some hunter, warrior, and to smaller extent shaman, pala). Then I would love to do it with pala shaman hunter warlock and mage, but I'm not sure I'll ever have time for it lul. Plus I would want to do it on a server that doesn't have naxx on it : P
One thing I really want to see is wpvp objectives activated (apparently that comes only in phase 6 @_@), which they weren't on private servers. There *are* a few improvements over private servers in classic, but also other advantages yet to private servers such as much quicker response time : P
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On October 18 2019 11:07 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
only 12 right now xD but its late ofc
4pm now: doesn't list more than 50 with /who, there are 36 in 39-45 range, only 20 total in Desolace though for example [not too bad, but it gets low later part of evening for example, or off prime-time]. STV being most crowded in the world along with barrens, it also has large level range.
We have 16% more players at 1:45am than you have at 4pm, yet both dual layer servers. That explains a lot
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On October 19 2019 08:33 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2019 11:07 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
only 12 right now xD but its late ofc
4pm now: doesn't list more than 50 with /who, there are 36 in 39-45 range, only 20 total in Desolace though for example [not too bad, but it gets low later part of evening for example, or off prime-time]. STV being most crowded in the world along with barrens, it also has large level range. We have 16% more players at 1:45am than you have at 4pm, yet both dual layer servers. That explains a lot
ah yes. Maybe because english servers, you get players from other countries and with more ample timezones so you get more crowding over more hours or something like that
maybe I should have made some chars on english servers felt like playing FR servers to try it out -_-
still i think my server would be much better off without layering for these reasons eh
i could remake some alt on english server later see what it's like will see
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Which ones would be the most populated english realms btw (pvp), anyone know?
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On October 20 2019 03:29 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Which ones would be the most populated english realms btw (pvp), anyone know?
Whitemane, Fairbanks, Herod on US.
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On October 20 2019 07:09 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2019 03:29 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Which ones would be the most populated english realms btw (pvp), anyone know? Whitemane, Fairbanks, Herod on US.
thx, but looks like account is region EU so I can't play on US servers with it, guess i would have to get a second subcription not gonna do that  Even though, would be good to have a alt on far server to play at off hours^^
most populated english EU realms anybody knows??
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I know a few, but they're either PVE or functionally PVE because all of the players of one faction left when they opened server transfers due to the populations
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On October 20 2019 07:48 ProMeTheus112 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2019 07:09 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 20 2019 03:29 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Which ones would be the most populated english realms btw (pvp), anyone know? Whitemane, Fairbanks, Herod on US. thx, but looks like account is region EU so I can't play on US servers with it, guess i would have to get a second subcription not gonna do that Even though, would be good to have a alt on far server to play at off hours^^ most populated english EU realms anybody knows??
Gehennas, Shazzrah, Firemaw
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On October 22 2019 01:02 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2019 07:48 ProMeTheus112 wrote:On October 20 2019 07:09 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 20 2019 03:29 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Which ones would be the most populated english realms btw (pvp), anyone know? Whitemane, Fairbanks, Herod on US. thx, but looks like account is region EU so I can't play on US servers with it, guess i would have to get a second subcription not gonna do that Even though, would be good to have a alt on far server to play at off hours^^ most populated english EU realms anybody knows?? Gehennas, Shazzrah, Firemaw
Gehennas is one of those realms that were ultra-high-pop (5hr queues into the second month of classic) and then had an alliance exodus after faction-agnostic server transfers opened while it was more than 1.5 : 1 in favor of horde. Rumor is there are 5 horde for every alliance player now.
Shazzrah was also 60/40 in favor of horde and high pop so i expect similar
Firemaw was 56/44 a while ago. It's a better place to start, but make a char and do some scans of e.g. STV population on each faction.
If you're trying to play horde then there's a lot less caution needed but it's still probably important to end up on a realm which is 60/40 and not 80/20.
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