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six-Strings
Profile Joined November 2018
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 20:09:07
November 02 2018 15:18 GMT
#1
First Blizzcon Update: Full Release Summer 2019!

It's happening, boys!

Old login screen:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



After fifteen years of reluctance, Blizzard is finally forking WoW.

For those who don't know anything about WoW:

Blizzard is releasing a second version of WoW, alongside their live version, which has had seven expansions.

The second version is based on the old, un-expanded World of Warcraft from 2004-2007.
It is likely, but not certain, that the base will be a modified 1.12 patch, which was the last (major?) patch before the 2.0 TBC patch.

Since this is a completely independent game from the main fork, I think it warrants its own thread.

A very limited beta version will go live today, and those who own a Blizzcon virtual ticket will get to explore The Barrens as well as Westfall.

I will try to add any new information that comes out this weekend to the OP.



The old talent trees are up: https://classic.wowhead.com/
A little tidbit for us elderly, the URL thottbot.com leads to the same address.

Here's a little nostalgia, the old talent trees:
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Oh, and if anyone feels the need to tell us why we're wrong to be exited about this, please do so in a civil manner.

See you all in Un'Goro!
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
November 02 2018 15:25 GMT
#2
this is the best version of world of warcraft for those who like better overall balance and cohesion, arrays of choice to develop your character(s) and most importantly world pvp
it is also playable elsewhere
Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 15:43:15
November 02 2018 15:28 GMT
#3
On November 03 2018 00:25 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
this is the best version of world of warcraft for those who like better overall balance and cohesion, arrays of choice to develop your character(s) and most importantly world pvp
it is also playable elsewhere

Are you the c00lest 0ldsch00l playa eva? Or why are you blatantly lying? Starcraft Remastered is still miles under your quality control, am i right?
How balanced does this look like?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 02 2018 15:31 GMT
#4
On November 03 2018 00:28 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:25 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
this is the best version of world of warcraft for those who like better overall balance and cohesion, arrays of choice to develop your character(s) and most importantly world pvp
it is also playable elsewhere

Are you the c00lest 0ldsch00l playa eva? Or why are you blatantly lying?

I dunno about overall balance, but his other points are valid.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
November 02 2018 15:33 GMT
#5
On November 03 2018 00:25 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
this is the best version of world of warcraft for those who like better overall balance and cohesion, arrays of choice to develop your character(s) and most importantly world pvp
it is also playable elsewhere


For community and world pvp this is a great but overall balance is kinda meh, no resilience stuff means that t3 characters can os a full pvp players and the lack of degressive offers no limit to control, this is the ridiculous shits that make vanilla funny and appealing for some but that's not balanced.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 15:38:23
November 02 2018 15:36 GMT
#6
thread moved to other games section.

personally, not very excited, will check it out if its linked to an active subscription and you don't have to buy it again or something.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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six-Strings
Profile Joined November 2018
17 Posts
November 02 2018 15:37 GMT
#7
Yeah, calling the game in that state balanced is a bit rich. Even in PvE, some classes were straight up better than others. Every main tank was a warrior, and for most of the raiding game, the best DPS was usually a fury warrior on Alliance or an Arms warrior on Horde. The best healer was always a priest. Druids were straight up worse at everything.

I'm super exited about this game, but saying it was balanced is a stretch.
Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 15:54:00
November 02 2018 15:47 GMT
#8
On November 03 2018 00:33 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:25 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
this is the best version of world of warcraft for those who like better overall balance and cohesion, arrays of choice to develop your character(s) and most importantly world pvp
it is also playable elsewhere


For community and world pvp this is a great but overall balance is kinda meh, no resilience stuff means that t3 characters can os a full pvp players and the lack of degressive offers no limit to control, this is the ridiculous shits that make vanilla funny and appealing for some but that's not balanced.

Like in he posted clear facts? Is that how easy it is? He is obviously crazy nostalgic, which taints his opinion "It was balanced".
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 15:54:07
November 02 2018 15:53 GMT
#9
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 15:58:01
November 02 2018 15:54 GMT
#10
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that. Its going to be like a Whack-A-Mole
six-Strings
Profile Joined November 2018
17 Posts
November 02 2018 15:56 GMT
#11
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:01:09
November 02 2018 15:57 GMT
#12
and thats still fine, some people have different experiences to you, ultimately that bit nostalgia does not always go hand in hand with objectivity.

On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that. Its going to be like a Whack-A-Mole


more than you, it'll be our job to deal with unreasonable people, let us do it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:07:07
November 02 2018 16:00 GMT
#13
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB(ED DOWN) IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!". Oh and its not "WoW classic" threads exclusive. People posted that shit in Morhaimes goodbye like crazy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:03:35
November 02 2018 16:03 GMT
#14
On November 03 2018 01:00 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!".

wait until people actually start complaining in this thread, you're being more unreasonable than the people you're complaining about, and for the record I quite frankly enjoy bfa myself.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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six-Strings
Profile Joined November 2018
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:07:07
November 02 2018 16:05 GMT
#15
On November 03 2018 01:00 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB(ED DOWN) IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!".


I do hope you'll find a more creative way to channel that anger.

Can we just agree that we each enjoy the version of the game we like without getting in each other's face? If those people do come, take it from someone who'd know, TL won't be shy about moderating them.
Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:11:35
November 02 2018 16:08 GMT
#16
On November 03 2018 01:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 01:00 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!".

wait until people actually start complaining in this thread, you're being more unreasonable than the people you're complaining about, and for the record I quite frankly enjoy bfa myself.

Unreasonable on what?

On November 03 2018 01:05 six-Strings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 01:00 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB(ED DOWN) IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!".


I do hope you'll find a more creative way to channel that anger.

Can we just agree that we each enjoy the version of the game we like without getting in each other's face? If those people do come, take it from someone who'd know, TL won't be shy about moderating them.

So why are 0ldsch00l playa like prometheus not capable of saying that they like classic soooo much without saying "RETAIL IS TRASH!!!" Why is this always something they have to add? Again: This attitude is not Classic thread exclusive
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 16:17:44
November 02 2018 16:12 GMT
#17
On November 03 2018 01:08 Tappo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 01:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 03 2018 01:00 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:56 six-Strings wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:54 Tappo wrote:
On November 03 2018 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I get that he posted an opinion like its a fact but you really need to chill out man, there is zero need for you to go nuclear over it.

He is not going to be the only one doing that


I think that's fine in a thread that is dedicated to Classic WoW.

Those of us who played on private servers know what we're getting into and will love the game in spite of its obvious flaws. Those of us who didn't are obviously looking at it through nostalgia goggles, but nostalgia is a legitimate reason to be exited about something. Let us have our fun.

And while people are at it: Take a shit on retail and everyone playing retail. "SO DUMB IT HAS TO BE CHANGED!".

wait until people actually start complaining in this thread, you're being more unreasonable than the people you're complaining about, and for the record I quite frankly enjoy bfa myself.

Unreasonable on what?

why are you being so combative?why are you upset over other people opinion, do you have a problem with the fact that you enjoy retail?

did he say retail is trash? No, he didn't and don't give me bullshit of reading between lines, at which point you're only reading what you want to read and thats a far bigger problem when it comes to any discussion with you in this thread.

knock it off before I start taking action.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Tappo
Profile Joined July 2018
101 Posts
November 02 2018 16:20 GMT
#18
Hey Prometheus, how bad is Retail?

User was banned for this post.
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
November 02 2018 16:25 GMT
#19
I've just started playing WoW a few months ago, so I'm excited to see what it was like back then. My older brother started playing around 2006 and he just laughs at me lol. Things I take for granted like the dungeon finder will be gone.
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six-Strings
Profile Joined November 2018
17 Posts
November 02 2018 16:37 GMT
#20
On November 03 2018 01:25 Cush wrote:
I've just started playing WoW a few months ago, so I'm excited to see what it was like back then. My older brother started playing around 2006 and he just laughs at me lol. Things I take for granted like the dungeon finder will be gone.


It's even more subtle than that.

Yes, major features will be missing, but literally stuff nobody thinks about, like a 3 second mount cast time. Or having to manually dismount before you can gather a node. And then gathering the node doesn't happen in one swing, you have to hit it two to five times. And each swing takes 2.5 seconds.

So simply mining a large Thorium node takes around 30 seconds, but that's kind of exciting because you might find an Arcane Crystal, or someone might kill you and take the node from you.

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