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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-21 09:54:54
November 09 2015 13:38 GMT
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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-21 09:55:18
November 09 2015 13:39 GMT
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buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
November 09 2015 13:47 GMT
#3
Looking forward to it
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 09 2015 13:51 GMT
#4
Just finished reading the priest changes. Big changes to Discipline, strange changes to holy and good changes for shadow! I think holy just became stupidly easy and very strong with its cooldowns.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 14:07:26
November 09 2015 14:07 GMT
#5
On November 09 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Just finished reading the priest changes. Big changes to Discipline, strange changes to holy and good changes for shadow! I think holy just became stupidly easy and very strong with its cooldowns.

We dont even have numbers, lets not be hasty lol

I do have some concerns tho. If Holy relies to much on their cooldowns it could become awkward with healing but will have to try it before I get worried.
Disc tho...They tried this before with Mistweavers and as someone who played a monk during MoP I feel for Disc. Blizzard failed once before with creating a healing through damage spec. I donno if i trust them to do it correctly this time.

ps.
Didnt see it posted yet so Priest Blog
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 09 2015 14:11 GMT
#6
On November 09 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Just finished reading the priest changes. Big changes to Discipline, strange changes to holy and good changes for shadow! I think holy just became stupidly easy and very strong with its cooldowns.

Where can I read up on class changes?
Off-season = best season
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
November 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#7
Seeing as there's quite a while left in WoD why the thread change? Can people still talk about WoD in here? (I never personally spoke about it but I enjoyed reading peoples opinions)
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
November 09 2015 14:13 GMT
#8
Pandemona linked them, scroll up a little :D
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 14:16:36
November 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#9
I mean the cooldowns seem absurd and they are only 1 minute long and already linking in with;
Serendipity
Passive
When you cast Flash Heal or Heal, the cooldown of Holy Word: Serenity is reduced by 6 sec.
When you cast Prayer of Healing or Prayer of Mending, the cooldown of Holy Word: Sanctify is reduced by 6 sec.

Couple of casts and you are looking at the 1 minute cooldowns of "huge amount" heals for low mana seems like it is going to need huge balance works
Even if the heal is just 30% hp for example of a 110 tank hp, that every x seconds maybe seems pretty huge and hard to keep in tune? Thats my take from it anyway, casting ur heal heal heal into big Serenity to then heal heal heal to reduce its cooldown into another big heal. But that was my take from it, that it seems to put it into a huge burst heal category for something that is wrote down cheapily in mana cost and cooldown is not that long.
On November 09 2015 23:12 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as there's quite a while left in WoD why the thread change? Can people still talk about WoD in here? (I never personally spoke about it but I enjoyed reading peoples opinions)

Of course you can, just the last few pages of WoD was about blizzcon and legion anyway. We have already "finished" end game boss in WoD so there isn't anything major left.I thought it was time we discuss Legion some more in a new thread :D
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
November 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#10
On November 09 2015 23:12 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as there's quite a while left in WoD why the thread change? Can people still talk about WoD in here? (I never personally spoke about it but I enjoyed reading peoples opinions)


Of course, talk about anything WoW related in here. It's just nice having a new and updated OP now that more and more Legion info is coming out.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 09 2015 14:25 GMT
#11
On November 09 2015 23:11 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Just finished reading the priest changes. Big changes to Discipline, strange changes to holy and good changes for shadow! I think holy just became stupidly easy and very strong with its cooldowns.

Where can I read up on class changes?

Nvm just realized there is nothing on my class (monk healer) yet.
Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 09 2015 14:27 GMT
#12
I have linked the class changes btw in the 2nd post. The links with your class in, take you to the blogs discussing changes thought i made that clear! By Thursday we will have the last class (rogue) announced. Today we have Mage and Paladin to follow. Times in PDT of release are 5am-11am-5pm

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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 14:39:09
November 09 2015 14:34 GMT
#13
I'm a bit concerned on how the balance of new holy and disc will work out. From the looks of it Disc seems like it'll either provide inadequate heals or become even more mandatory than old Disc priests. Maybe in a raid environment having a disc priest for a DPS intensive boss could work but in five mans when you're the sole healer idk. I guess that's why they added tri spec. The changes look really nice and I'm excited to try them out come legion but both look really brutal to balance.

But I'm of the view that you do cool shit then figure out balance so I'm happy with it overall. Still eagerly waiting to see what they do with Windwalker monks especially storm, earth and fire which they said they're going to address for Legion.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22705 Posts
November 09 2015 14:49 GMT
#14
On November 09 2015 23:15 Pandemona wrote:
I mean the cooldowns seem absurd and they are only 1 minute long and already linking in with;
Show nested quote +
Serendipity
Passive
When you cast Flash Heal or Heal, the cooldown of Holy Word: Serenity is reduced by 6 sec.
When you cast Prayer of Healing or Prayer of Mending, the cooldown of Holy Word: Sanctify is reduced by 6 sec.

Couple of casts and you are looking at the 1 minute cooldowns of "huge amount" heals for low mana seems like it is going to need huge balance works
Even if the heal is just 30% hp for example of a 110 tank hp, that every x seconds maybe seems pretty huge and hard to keep in tune? Thats my take from it anyway, casting ur heal heal heal into big Serenity to then heal heal heal to reduce its cooldown into another big heal. But that was my take from it, that it seems to put it into a huge burst heal category for something that is wrote down cheapily in mana cost and cooldown is not that long. :D

Current holy already kinda works like that with Circle of Healing and its cd being reduced by all other heal casts. It now mostly resolves around spamming renew and CoH on cd. Ofcourse the numbers on the new spells cant be to big or you indeed get the problem you mentioned.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 14:50:18
November 09 2015 14:49 GMT
#15
As a long time priest player I really like how the changes read. Just hoping Disc won't be overpowered or completely underpowered, but I have a good feeling about it.

Really interesting for me is the "huge damage" in the description of VT and SW, I hope the DOTs will actually do dmg instead of being low dmg debuffs which are just there to provide procs

Also the PoH description seems like it won't be restricted to groups anymore! But the 15yard radius seems a bit small?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22705 Posts
November 09 2015 14:51 GMT
#16
On November 09 2015 23:34 Fusilero wrote:
I'm a bit concerned on how the balance of new holy and disc will work out. From the looks of it Disc seems like it'll either provide inadequate heals or become even more mandatory than old Disc priests. Maybe in a raid environment having a disc priest for a DPS intensive boss could work but in five mans when you're the sole healer idk. I guess that's why they added tri spec. The changes look really nice and I'm excited to try them out come legion but both look really brutal to balance.

But I'm of the view that you do cool shit then figure out balance so I'm happy with it overall. Still eagerly waiting to see what they do with Windwalker monks especially storm, earth and fire which they said they're going to address for Legion.

They kinda already said what Storm, Earth and Fire would do
You turn it on and split into three, turn it off and you recombine into one. They won't attack the same target as you, but they will find something nearby to attack. You do lose the customizability of assigning targets, but it will do something useful at all times.
sounds like you basically get 2 guardian mobs (pets you cant control) that start hitting random mobs.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 09 2015 14:52 GMT
#17
RIP old thread
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
November 09 2015 15:02 GMT
#18
When is it possible to play the DH? I'm planning on playing again like a month before the release of WoD to prepare and I'd like to level one up.
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
November 09 2015 15:06 GMT
#19
might come out of wow retirement for legion. sadly stopped in 2012.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22705 Posts
November 09 2015 15:11 GMT
#20
On November 10 2015 00:02 RvB wrote:
When is it possible to play the DH? I'm planning on playing again like a month before the release of WoD to prepare and I'd like to level one up.

No date is known yet but the pre-order does include early access to the DH class.
My guess is when the pre-patch go's live. which is normaly ~a month before the expansion releases.
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