FF7 remake for PS4 announced - Page 9

On June 16 2015 16:59 zeo wrote:


This happened just after FF7 was announced yesterday lol

On June 18 2015 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Ah, good old graph shenanigans. In a reference frame of 2 whole hours, Square Enix's stock price jumped up a whopping 3%. *Gasp*

Still better than paralleluniverse graphs.

On June 18 2015 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Ah, good old graph shenanigans. In a reference frame of 2 whole hours, Square Enix's stock price jumped up a whopping 3%. *Gasp*

Still better than paralleluniverse graphs.

Ok so I hate to be that guy, but...

I’d really like to not be cynical every once in a while and get excited over that FF7 remake, but then I read stuff like this and all my fangirl systems just switch to “bohica”:

“Since we now formally revealed Kazushige Nojima’s name for the scenario, there will be more plot devices in the story, so I think you can also look forward to that.”

And:

“if you are going to do a full remake, you have to take a different approach and make something that suits the times.”

Like I said, I’d love to have faith. I’d love to look forward to seeing the game that shaped my videogame playing experience so deeply, and affected me so much as a writer. I’d love to go on a shiny HD journey with Cloud & Co. and experience all the pathos and quirkiness that made the original so great.

But even if I disregard all the crap Squeenix has been pulling in recent years, like not finishing games, nostalgia cash-grabs, and horrendous pay-to-play schemes… I don’t trust them to keep the changes merely cosmetic.

I don’t trust them not to chicken out of some of the more “controversial” stuff like the cross-dressing or the Gold Saucer date sequence with Barret, and then, well, there’s Advent Children. There’s Diiiiirrrrrge. There’s Dr. WTF and Hojo resurrecting himself with the help of an internet meme and boyband bikers and Gackt, and it will be physically impossible for them to resist the temptation of trying to make all that “line up” with the original.

I really, really hope I’ll be mistaken, and they’ll practice self-restraint and moderation and try to remember what made the original FFVII so great. But part of me looks at the past fifteen-odd years and can’t help but feel like they’ll tackle this with all the subtlety of a toddler armed with an unlimited crayola supply and set loose in a Rembrandt collection.

Nomura has repeatedly refused to be drawn on what might change (although he has hinted the Honey Bee Inn section will remain, along with other light-hearted moments) but said he won’t do anything too “drastic” like switching genders, for example, and his colleagues are keen to retain as much of the original’s spirit as possible.

That said, it’s extremely unlikely the combat of the original will be retained.

“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn,” Nomura said. That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there.”

On June 18 2015 22:08 Spaylz wrote:
Square Enix went through a rough time after FFX and FFXI. They sort of lost their way, tried too hard to target the western market, and up until a couple of years ago they were nearly bankrupt.

But I don't think SE is the type to chicken out of anything, at least not when it comes to moments like Cloud cross-dressing and such. I've said it several times, but I play FFXIV, and in that game, there are tons of sexual inuendos and crass moments. Also outright insults (lots of "shite" especially). I am not worried about them messing too much with those aspects.

However, it is clear that they intend to do something diffferent. See here.



Basically, the way it's looking right now, the changes we can expect are related to the combat system.

On June 18 2015 21:46 Ghardo wrote:
Maybe an interesting point about the remake discussion:



*source tumblr: http://fury-brand.tumblr.com/post/121832178867/ok-so-i-hate-to-be-that-guy-but

On June 19 2015 00:32 Kukaracha wrote:


This is on point.

All the old farts that are excited about this are deluded. They're not SE's target audience. They'll ride the nostalgia marketing wave, disappoint adults and craft a game that will appeal to teenagers (the generation that grew with Advent Children and DoC, not with the original game).

AAA companies disappoint gamers all the time, yet they march forward, still. Because people buy their products. Sure, one could argue that Square Enix's strategy is wrong and that they should try to reach an older, more mature audience, but I seriously doubt that they'll turn 90 degrees and head towards a whole new market. If their plan was novelty, they wouldn't do a remake in the first place.

On June 19 2015 01:20 Spaylz wrote:


Dude, why are you such a killjoy?

I'm fairly certain most of those who played FFVII back around 1997 are below their 30s today. We're not 50+ year old guys outdated by the newest console. And while I'm sure there are 50+ year old guys who did play back then and who are waiting, gamers are gamers. JRPGs are JRPGs. This is not apples and oranges. It may be different, but it won't be something that will be drastically different from your traditional Final Fantasy.

Seriously...

On June 19 2015 03:56 Kukaracha wrote:


I feel like it's better to temper the hype. Square Enix is building a marketing strategy around the nostalgia generated by what I consider to be a masterpiece, which feels wrong for two reasons: they're going to deceive the adult public and push sales through nostalgia marketing, and they're going to destroy something that is dear to me as a person, not even as a gamer.

30 is old for Square Enix. It's well beyond their audience target. Squaresoft is no more. Companies change, games change. JRPGs have changed, gamers have changed.

30 is old for the majority of AAA productions. The ESA says the average gamer is 40 years old, but that's statistical bullshit. Did you know they did that survey by asking people who were more than 16 years old the question "did you play at least once this year"? Realistically speaking, the average gamer is about 25 years old. In terms of spending and hours played, the bar is probably lower than 20 years old. So that's that: the industry is still too immature to rival the quality of movies or literature, AAA games are still, in 2015, mostly made for children and teenagers.

And in the middle of this, there is Square Enix who clearly targets the latter audience, it's no secret. So why should I believe that they will suddenly make something that isn't concentrated masturbatory fan servicing crap?