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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 16 2015 18:26 GMT
#101
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 16 2015 18:32 GMT
#102
I hope it's not a direct remake...I beat that game 5 times.

Looking forward to it, I hope they add more to it, like ffx style skill progression but also keeping material mechanics.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:45:00
June 16 2015 18:44 GMT
#103
My childhood. Don't fuck this up, don't add but don't fucking subtract either Square. Everything minigames at Golden Saucer, Fort Condor MUST be remade. everything must be remade. Traveling around with the airship, and even the SUB, Chocobos! Walking into SHinra HQ, escaping on Motorcycles.


Do. Not. Fuck. This. Up.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 18:47 GMT
#104
On June 17 2015 03:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.

Yango is 100% correct. Follow developers you love, not IP. IP can be run by new people with different ideas.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 16 2015 18:54 GMT
#105
On June 17 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:26 TheYango wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.

Yango is 100% correct. Follow developers you love, not IP. IP can be run by new people with different ideas.

Sadly it's mostly the same creative team working at SE for the last 2 decades.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 16 2015 18:59 GMT
#106
On June 17 2015 03:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My childhood. Don't fuck this up, don't add but don't fucking subtract either Square. Everything minigames at Golden Saucer, Fort Condor MUST be remade. everything must be remade. Traveling around with the airship, and even the SUB, Chocobos! Walking into SHinra HQ, escaping on Motorcycles.


Do. Not. Fuck. This. Up.


I honestly don't mind if they add stuff.

But yeah. They better not remove anything. As I've said before, I do not expect them to.
I like words.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 16 2015 19:06 GMT
#107
On June 17 2015 03:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:26 TheYango wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.

Yango is 100% correct. Follow developers you love, not IP. IP can be run by new people with different ideas.

Sadly it's mostly the same creative team working at SE for the last 2 decades.

But they don't have to innovate this time in terms of battle system and story. They just need to make the game look nice and clearly they're very very good at that.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 16 2015 19:14 GMT
#108
On June 17 2015 03:17 superstartran wrote:
All I can is.....


Spoilers for those who haven't played FF7

+ Show Spoiler +
If I can't revive Aeries this game I'm gonna riot. Dem tears that I dropped when Sephiroth came down and just stabbed the daylights out of her.


You can keep her alive in the PC version if you really want to
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 16 2015 19:26 GMT
#109
Guess I'll be firing up FF7 in the next few days.

I am so very hyped for this. Words cannot describe it.
I like words.
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
June 16 2015 20:08 GMT
#110
On June 17 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:26 TheYango wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.

Yango is 100% correct. Follow developers you love, not IP. IP can be run by new people with different ideas.

IP matters a lot in AAA games. Stockholders and the executive board follow the development and marketing process very closely. If the market doesn't want to risk change, then the team won't make a difference. Change won't happen.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 20:16:02
June 16 2015 20:12 GMT
#111
it just occured to me

what if one of the changes is that they make aeris a boy

wud dey even need to change anything about the game? just make aeris a boy. cloud wud act the same wudnt he

ff7 cud be the greatest subtle yaoi of all time
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 20:17 GMT
#112
On June 17 2015 05:08 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:26 TheYango wrote:
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

Games are made by people, not companies. It's not so much that Squenix is making it, but rather a question of *who* they have working on the game.

Yango is 100% correct. Follow developers you love, not IP. IP can be run by new people with different ideas.

IP matters a lot in AAA games. Stockholders and the executive board follow the development and marketing process very closely. If the market doesn't want to risk change, then the team won't make a difference. Change won't happen.

You did not read the context of my post at all.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 16 2015 20:29 GMT
#113
On June 17 2015 05:12 FFGenerations wrote:
it just occured to me

what if one of the changes is that they make aeris a boy

wud dey even need to change anything about the game? just make aeris a boy. cloud wud act the same wudnt he

ff7 cud be the greatest subtle yaoi of all time


Most of your comments truly puzzle me.
I like words.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 16 2015 20:48 GMT
#114
On June 17 2015 03:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My childhood. Don't fuck this up, don't add but don't fucking subtract either Square. Everything minigames at Golden Saucer, Fort Condor MUST be remade. everything must be remade. Traveling around with the airship, and even the SUB, Chocobos! Walking into SHinra HQ, escaping on Motorcycles.


Do. Not. Fuck. This. Up.


If they want to add a few hours of gameplay made an extra optional boss or two I would not stop them. Even though it was available in the PAL version when I bought the FFX remaster getting to fight all those extra bosses gave the game new life to me.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#115
On June 17 2015 02:52 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 01:51 Kukaracha wrote:
This is getting weirder every minute. FF13 got bashed for being Final Fantasy's Phantom Menace.
Quoting Christian Nutt from Gamasutra:
So, too, is Final Fantasy XIII filled with Final Fantasy Stuff -- most notably and stupidly, crystals -- and it’s clear that all of that junk is there because the developers assume that it has to be there, not because it enriches the world or the game’s play experience.
“The new films just borrow and recycle from the original ideas, as if there’s no way to create anything new,” says Plinkett. And that’s what hamstrings Final Fantasy XIII, too.

Hell, the game’s director, Motomu Toriayama, asked character designer Tetsuya Nomura for “someone like a female version of Cloud from FFVII."

Even Matsuda, president of Square Enix, recognized that the company "lost its focus" in an interview:
If you focus too much on the global aspect, you might lose sight of who you’re actually making the game for,” explains Matsuda. “For example, if you look back at 2013, we’ve had some home console games made for a global audience that struggled.

FF6 and to a lesser FF7 were made for a more mature audience that targeted late teens and young adults who played RPGs - that's a niche. FF13 and following episodes were made for teenagers and casual gamers, which didn't even work that well for Square Enix.


Yeah. I believe FFXIII was a financial success, but SE has admitted that they tried too hard to cater to the western audience, and lost their vision in the process.

They have since said they will aim to focus on what they know, and will not try to cater to westerners anymore.

As for people who say SE has forgotten how to make good JRPGs, Bravely Default is excellent. So, there is that.

To be even more fair to FF13 its the FF game requiring the most skill and knowledge in a speedrun setting while most FF games rely on spamming the same shit over and over again. So while the story was pretty terrible the gameplay is nothing to laugh at.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
June 16 2015 20:56 GMT
#116
I was never that into FFVII as the rest of the world, but I did enjoy it. A remake is SO necessary for this game, while VIII and IX look pretty decent and are very playable still, VII just looks bad, definitely looking forward to it.

That said, on the Gamespot stream they were discussing that they wouldn't want to play this if they stuck to the turn based combat, hoping they would make it more like FFXV. I was like... what? no... why would they change that, wouldn't be a remake if they turned the game into an action game just because apparently next gen graphics are too good to be bothered with turn based combat according to some people on Gamespot. I really don't want VII to have kingdom hearts or ffxv like combat, that would totally ruin it in my opinion, some tweaks would be nice but stick to turn based combat.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 16 2015 20:59 GMT
#117
TBH, I'd rather see a 3-D remake of FF6 than FF7 getting a polish. But whatever, 7 wasn't my first FF game so I don't love it as much as most people.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
June 16 2015 21:05 GMT
#118
Did you guys play crisis core? How about that battle system I liked it a lot. (Haven't played recent ff games so idk if its similar).
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 16 2015 21:34 GMT
#119
On June 17 2015 05:56 TanKLoveR wrote:
I was never that into FFVII as the rest of the world, but I did enjoy it. A remake is SO necessary for this game, while VIII and IX look pretty decent and are very playable still, VII just looks bad, definitely looking forward to it.

That said, on the Gamespot stream they were discussing that they wouldn't want to play this if they stuck to the turn based combat, hoping they would make it more like FFXV. I was like... what? no... why would they change that, wouldn't be a remake if they turned the game into an action game just because apparently next gen graphics are too good to be bothered with turn based combat according to some people on Gamespot. I really don't want VII to have kingdom hearts or ffxv like combat, that would totally ruin it in my opinion, some tweaks would be nice but stick to turn based combat.


Agree. They can polish the combat mechanics, but they cannot mess with the turn-based system. I don't really imagine the materia system would work well without turn-based fights. The two form a solid strategic combo.
I like words.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 22:20:27
June 16 2015 22:20 GMT
#120
wot wud u change to ff7 combat system?

it was only challenging when u were having to spam heals to barely stay alive whilst dealing damage

99% of the time i just amoved with basic attacks iirc. all materia was sick but apart from the very start of the game i think i just amoved everyone

so maybe if combat was more fluid/less wait times

maybe if it was a lot more "dangerous" , but negative effects of losing combat dont necessarily have to be "you die, game over", maybe you dont gain xp or ap if you get wrecked in a fight. or maybe you LOSE xp/ap if you screw up a fight (like lastgen MMOs, where dying actually meant something and it created huge tension)
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