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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 16 2015 09:06 GMT
#21
ITS HAPPENING.

FINALLY.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
June 16 2015 09:16 GMT
#22
On June 16 2015 17:18 Draconicfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:

I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


http://i.imgur.com/O8Aipqd.jpg

They have to nail this scene.


oh god thats going to be awkward.

if this goes well, maybe one day I'll see an FF9 remake because FF6 is probably never going to happen.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 16 2015 09:22 GMT
#23
On June 16 2015 18:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:18 Draconicfire wrote:
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:

I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


http://i.imgur.com/O8Aipqd.jpg

They have to nail this scene.


oh god thats going to be awkward.

if this goes well, maybe one day I'll see an FF9 remake because FF6 is probably never going to happen.


I sincerely don't think FF9 needs a remake.

The graphics hold up just fine to this day. So do the cinematics. Same goes for gameplay.

I think there is absolutely no need to remake FF9. It's perfect as it is.
I like words.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 16 2015 09:39 GMT
#24
So I have to save up for a PS4 now... well fuck.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
June 16 2015 10:43 GMT
#25
On June 16 2015 18:39 Musicus wrote:
So I have to save up for a PS4 now... well fuck.


They said something like 'play first on PS4', suggesting that we'll have other options... here's hoping for a pc release.
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
June 16 2015 11:14 GMT
#26
Screw Nomura for messing up a good thing.

Clerith forever.
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
June 16 2015 11:49 GMT
#27
Well if there was ever a reason to eventually get PS4, this would be it now. At least I still have the excuse for Type-0 and XV still
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
June 16 2015 11:50 GMT
#28
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:
Show nested quote +


On June 16 2015 16:37 InVerno wrote:
Genuinely interested in how they'll deal with the fanboys bandwagon when the original material is objectively so scarce for 2015 standards. Even the dialogues (of a verbose game) of the original version are not sufficient to fill a 2015 game.


You really think so? FFVII had easily 20-30 hours of game play if you only focused on the story. And well, few people do that in Final Fantasy games. I personally still play FF7 and 9 about once a year, and they hold up great. Give me lots of hours of enjoyment. And aside from the bad translations in FF7, the dialogue is alright. Maybe nostalgia goggles, but I don't think so.


I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


You hit the nail on the head.

You guys are acting as if it was even possible to recreate these scenes, though it's not.
FF7 was made for an audience that is too mature for today's standards. People get beat up, you start the game in the middle of the slums, surrounded by junkies, and soon enough people are talking of rape while you visit a brothel near the stronghold of a pervert mafia lord who wants to fuck the male hero who's dressed as a woman.

It's. Just. Not. Gonna. Be. The. Same. It's going to be a dumbed down, toned down version, and all the old farts like me with half a brain left are going to be disappointed.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 16 2015 11:57 GMT
#29
Time to buy a PS4.

Square finally caved to the need for cash.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44600 Posts
June 16 2015 12:05 GMT
#30
Seeing Aeris die in HD is gonna be really tough x.x

But I looove FFVII <3
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:16:47
June 16 2015 12:11 GMT
#31
On June 16 2015 20:50 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:


On June 16 2015 16:37 InVerno wrote:
Genuinely interested in how they'll deal with the fanboys bandwagon when the original material is objectively so scarce for 2015 standards. Even the dialogues (of a verbose game) of the original version are not sufficient to fill a 2015 game.


You really think so? FFVII had easily 20-30 hours of game play if you only focused on the story. And well, few people do that in Final Fantasy games. I personally still play FF7 and 9 about once a year, and they hold up great. Give me lots of hours of enjoyment. And aside from the bad translations in FF7, the dialogue is alright. Maybe nostalgia goggles, but I don't think so.


I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


You hit the nail on the head.

You guys are acting as if it was even possible to recreate these scenes, though it's not.
FF7 was made for an audience that is too mature for today's standards. People get beat up, you start the game in the middle of the slums, surrounded by junkies, and soon enough people are talking of rape while you visit a brothel near the stronghold of a pervert mafia lord who wants to fuck the male hero who's dressed as a woman.

It's. Just. Not. Gonna. Be. The. Same. It's going to be a dumbed down, toned down version, and all the old farts like me with half a brain left are going to be disappointed.



ff7advent children remastered was pretty spot on, both dark (everything) and chirpy (barret, reno scenes)

the only thing i didnt like was the revisualisation of aeris, i think she was too tall and not cute enuff. i guess it did fit for her to be that way post ff7 (more motherly) so i kinda grew toward it. im not sure what she was like in the disney games but i'm guessing she was more like ff7 aeris and what i can expect from the remake...

ok heres some kingdom heartys scenes



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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:13:16
June 16 2015 12:12 GMT
#32
On June 16 2015 20:50 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:


On June 16 2015 16:37 InVerno wrote:
Genuinely interested in how they'll deal with the fanboys bandwagon when the original material is objectively so scarce for 2015 standards. Even the dialogues (of a verbose game) of the original version are not sufficient to fill a 2015 game.


You really think so? FFVII had easily 20-30 hours of game play if you only focused on the story. And well, few people do that in Final Fantasy games. I personally still play FF7 and 9 about once a year, and they hold up great. Give me lots of hours of enjoyment. And aside from the bad translations in FF7, the dialogue is alright. Maybe nostalgia goggles, but I don't think so.


I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


You hit the nail on the head.

You guys are acting as if it was even possible to recreate these scenes, though it's not.
FF7 was made for an audience that is too mature for today's standards. People get beat up, you start the game in the middle of the slums, surrounded by junkies, and soon enough people are talking of rape while you visit a brothel near the stronghold of a pervert mafia lord who wants to fuck the male hero who's dressed as a woman.

It's. Just. Not. Gonna. Be. The. Same. It's going to be a dumbed down, toned down version, and all the old farts like me with half a brain left are going to be disappointed.


I beg to differ.

I like words.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:16:16
June 16 2015 12:14 GMT
#33
On June 16 2015 20:50 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:


On June 16 2015 16:37 InVerno wrote:
Genuinely interested in how they'll deal with the fanboys bandwagon when the original material is objectively so scarce for 2015 standards. Even the dialogues (of a verbose game) of the original version are not sufficient to fill a 2015 game.


You really think so? FFVII had easily 20-30 hours of game play if you only focused on the story. And well, few people do that in Final Fantasy games. I personally still play FF7 and 9 about once a year, and they hold up great. Give me lots of hours of enjoyment. And aside from the bad translations in FF7, the dialogue is alright. Maybe nostalgia goggles, but I don't think so.


I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


You hit the nail on the head.

You guys are acting as if it was even possible to recreate these scenes, though it's not.
FF7 was made for an audience that is too mature for today's standards. People get beat up, you start the game in the middle of the slums, surrounded by junkies, and soon enough people are talking of rape while you visit a brothel near the stronghold of a pervert mafia lord who wants to fuck the male hero who's dressed as a woman.

It's. Just. Not. Gonna. Be. The. Same. It's going to be a dumbed down, toned down version, and all the old farts like me with half a brain left are going to be disappointed.


LISTEN.

If you can make GTA V like they did and get cash for killing people we can keep the tone of FF7 the same way it was when it came out damnit. I honestly don't think that the whole too mature for today's standards even holds up given the fact that violence is more realistic than it has ever been...ever ever.

Toning down a remake of FF7 would be a literal shot to the foot. If they really DO do this they can kiss any fan goodwill goodbye. I don't think they're willing to do that.

This is just me trying not to let my hype die. You shouldn't be so cynical fellow old fart. It's not good for our skin.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 16 2015 12:20 GMT
#34
On June 16 2015 20:57 c0ldfusion wrote:
Time to buy a PS4.

Square finally caved to the need for cash.


Its coming to PC also AFAIK
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:24:17
June 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#35
I liked FF7

but i rather have a full remake of 4 or 6 (Yeah, i already have the 4 DS remake, but you get the point), those were much much better games.

Or 9 which was godlike also
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 16 2015 12:25 GMT
#36
I'm hoping they add a shitload of super bosses like in FFX. Those are always fun. I want Emerald and Ruby on steroids!

On June 16 2015 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Seeing Aeris die in HD is gonna be really tough x.x

But I looove FFVII <3


Oh god, just thinking of how cool (or sad in this case) some of the scenes might look is making me excited.

I have always wanted to see the motorcycle scene with updated graphics and music ^^
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:34:34
June 16 2015 12:34 GMT
#37
On June 16 2015 19:43 Gnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 18:39 Musicus wrote:
So I have to save up for a PS4 now... well fuck.


They said something like 'play first on PS4', suggesting that we'll have other options... here's hoping for a pc release.

It was at the Sony Press conference and they are likely funding part of it. If there is a PC release, it won't be for a while. Also, FF15 is still in production. I will be in awe if we see this game in under 5 years, since they need to rework everything including the dialog.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 12:44:42
June 16 2015 12:38 GMT
#38
On June 16 2015 21:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 19:43 Gnosis wrote:
On June 16 2015 18:39 Musicus wrote:
So I have to save up for a PS4 now... well fuck.


They said something like 'play first on PS4', suggesting that we'll have other options... here's hoping for a pc release.

It was at the Sony Press conference and they are likely funding part of it. If there is a PC release, it won't be for a while. Also, FF15 is still in production. I will be in awe if we see this game in under 5 years, since they need to rework everything including the dialog.


There will likely be a PC release. Just a couple of years later.

I might actually buy a PS4, just for FFXV and FFVII...

I also will likely be in Japan in 2017, so I certainly hope they release it then. :D

edit: I wouldn't worry about the old scenes from FF7 not transfering over very well. If you play FFXIV, you'll find out they have no problem doing super silly scenes. They are quite good at it, in fact.

Now I know the FFXIV team won't be working on FFVII, but nonetheless, pretty sure they'll do a good job. C'mon, give them some credit, guys.
I like words.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 12:41 GMT
#39
I think there is a reasonable chance this FF7 remake could be the Sony's next Last Guardian. This is Square and FF15(aka Versus) was announced in 2006. Maybe they will make it fast, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

I do love FF7 however. Its super dated in the dialog point and needs to be rewritten, but the game is fun. Its before Square went up its own ass with stupid systems for combat.
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
June 16 2015 12:48 GMT
#40
On June 16 2015 20:50 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 17:00 InVerno wrote:


On June 16 2015 16:37 InVerno wrote:
Genuinely interested in how they'll deal with the fanboys bandwagon when the original material is objectively so scarce for 2015 standards. Even the dialogues (of a verbose game) of the original version are not sufficient to fill a 2015 game.


You really think so? FFVII had easily 20-30 hours of game play if you only focused on the story. And well, few people do that in Final Fantasy games. I personally still play FF7 and 9 about once a year, and they hold up great. Give me lots of hours of enjoyment. And aside from the bad translations in FF7, the dialogue is alright. Maybe nostalgia goggles, but I don't think so.


I played it recently (2 years ago) also, aside from the actual lenght of the script (that it's scarce), there're dozens of things very hard to remake in a 2015 game. Gestures for exaples, all the ironical part of the game was made around them. Try to imagine the Don Corneo scene and the gym guys for example, in '90 I probably laughted at that, but imagining that scene with nowadays graphics and expression standards i can only think at a very weird and failed attempt to make me laugh. They have to do it way better than what I can imagine.


You hit the nail on the head.

You guys are acting as if it was even possible to recreate these scenes, though it's not.
FF7 was made for an audience that is too mature for today's standards. People get beat up, you start the game in the middle of the slums, surrounded by junkies, and soon enough people are talking of rape while you visit a brothel near the stronghold of a pervert mafia lord who wants to fuck the male hero who's dressed as a woman.

It's. Just. Not. Gonna. Be. The. Same. It's going to be a dumbed down, toned down version, and all the old farts like me with half a brain left are going to be disappointed.


i think you are undererstimating todays audience by a wide margin. if anything, the game would be critisised to take matters like human trafficking or rape too lightly because ff7 had a lot of light hearted and quirky moments that were the opposite of mature.
the only thing that might be controversial is that you start your adventure in a terrorist group who blows up a reactor in an urban region with a high chance of a massive amount of civilian casualties and this terrorist group are the good guys and never really questioned.
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