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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 15 2016 21:41 JacobShock wrote: So the beast men will appear in the grand campaign but unplayable in it? It would seem so. I bet they couldn’t make them as compelling as full of a campaign that would be up to par with 5 other races, so they decided to do something separate. I hope some of the other races, like Wood Elves and Skaven get added into the main campaign as playable races. And if they are going to do a bunch of DLC races, they can mix it up. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22406 Posts
On July 15 2016 21:51 Plansix wrote: It would seem so. I bet they couldn’t make them as compelling as full of a campaign that would be up to par with 5 other races, so they decided to do something separate. I hope some of the other races, like Wood Elves and Skaven get added into the main campaign as playable races. And if they are going to do a bunch of DLC races, they can mix it up. Maybe (probably) mods will solve it. Wood Elves have Athel Loren so I expect them to have a full campaign presence. If not the dlc for this game is really disappointing. | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
The only way I'd accept a 17 buckaroonies DLC, would be if it was comparable to a classic expansion (Brood war etc). Chaos, so far, has been far less than that. I'd accept 10$ as price, but even that would be a bit steep. | ||
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NKB
United Kingdom608 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:04 plated.rawr wrote: Yea, that DLC price pisses me off. I'm eager to pay for new races, but at this price? Jesus motherfucking christ. Considering that the Warhammer universe still consists of 9 more major races (Skaven, Lizardmen, Dogs of War, Chaos Dwarves, Dark Elves, High Elves, Wood Elves, Chaos Demons, Tomb Kings - am I forgetting any?), the total price for TW:Warhammer without discounts is at (core game) 50$ + 10 (DLC races) 170$ + Blood and gore (5$) = 225$. The only way I'd accept a 17 buckaroonies DLC, would be if it was comparable to a classic expansion (Brood war etc). Chaos, so far, has been far less than that. I'd accept 10$ as price, but even that would be a bit steep. I doubt they are going to do all of those. And the work that goes into each race is significant, so the early adopter price is going to reflect that. Have no doubt that these will go on sale so you can pick up the races you are not super pumped for at that time. On July 15 2016 22:04 NKB wrote: I don't mind the mini campaign just for them, but really do wish they were playable in the grand campaign if they are a horde race. Unless it gets patched in with a later dlc or expansion. Maybe they do that when they can add like 3 races at once and a new portion of the map. That would make more sense, production wise. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:04 plated.rawr wrote: Yea, that DLC price pisses me off. I'm eager to pay for new races, but at this price? Jesus motherfucking christ. Considering that the Warhammer universe still consists of 9 more major races (Skaven, Lizardmen, Dogs of War, Chaos Dwarves, Dark Elves, High Elves, Wood Elves, Chaos Demons, Tomb Kings - am I forgetting any?), the total price for TW:Warhammer without discounts is at (core game) 50$ + 10 (DLC races) 170$ + Blood and gore (5$) = 225$. The only way I'd accept a 17 buckaroonies DLC, would be if it was comparable to a classic expansion (Brood war etc). Chaos, so far, has been far less than that. I'd accept 10$ as price, but even that would be a bit steep. I think they have two stand alone expansions planned that will probably feature a lot of those races. Hopefully they interact in some way with the first game. But they did say warhammer total war was to be a trilogy. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17751 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:23 JacobShock wrote: I think they have two stand alone expansions planned that will probably feature a lot of those races. Hopefully they interact in some way with the first game. But they did say warhammer total war was to be a trilogy. 2nd expansion is 3 races 3rd expansion is 1 "race" (but 4 different factions) | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:14 Plansix wrote: I doubt they are going to do all of those. And the work that goes into each race is significant, so the early adopter price is going to reflect that. Have no doubt that these will go on sale so you can pick up the races you are not super pumped for at that time. Maybe they do that when they can add like 3 races at once and a new portion of the map. That would make more sense, production wise. Please don't be patronizing. I understand the work required for content additions such as these DLC, and I'm not in any way arguing they should be releasing these for free. I'm more than happy to pay for content additions to the game I've spent most of my summer playing! However, the price needs to be relative to the market of competing products (other DLC) in which is being releases as well as being relative to the value of the work being done (in terms of worker salaries), and I really don't feel the price tag reflects that. I wouldn't have cared much if I didn't love the game. With this price however, it feels my enthusiasm is being rewarded by having my wallet gouged. This price, and the prospect of future DLCs and "expansions" of similar price is putting me on the fence wether to actually spend more money on it. I'd be happy to pay and play for years, but this general pricetag is most probably going to shorten the life of TW:Warhammer for me. On July 15 2016 22:23 JacobShock wrote: I think they have two stand alone expansions planned that will probably feature a lot of those races. Hopefully they interact in some way with the first game. But they did say warhammer total war was to be a trilogy. On July 15 2016 22:28 Manit0u wrote: 2nd expansion is 3 races 3rd expansion is 1 "race" (but 4 different factions) 2nd being the elves (High, dark and wood), and third being skaven (Clan Pestilens, clan Moulder, clan Skryre, clan Eshin) then, I'd imagine. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 16 2016 00:36 plated.rawr wrote: Please don't be patronizing. I understand the work required for content additions such as these DLC, and I'm not in any way arguing they should be releasing these for free. I'm more than happy to pay for content additions to the game I've spent most of my summer playing! However, the price needs to be relative to the market of competing products (other DLC) in which is being releases as well as being relative to the value of the work being done (in terms of worker salaries), and I really don't feel the price tag reflects that. I wouldn't have cared much if I didn't love the game. With this price however, it feels my enthusiasm is being rewarded by having my wallet gouged. This price, and the prospect of future DLCs and "expansions" of similar price is putting me on the fence wether to actually spend more money on it. I'd be happy to pay and play for years, but this general pricetag is most probably going to shorten the life of TW:Warhammer for me. 2nd being the elves (High, dark and wood), and third being skaven (Clan Pestilens, clan Moulder, clan Skryre, clan Eshin) then, I'd imagine. I am not trying to be patronizing. I am just saying that I feel the content being provided is worth more than $10. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
They should not be charging 20$ for this I'll just wait for the winter steam sale | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On July 16 2016 03:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote: It's got about as much content as a minor Paradox DLC (for EU4/CK2/Stellaris/HOI4) which usually goes for 5-10$. They should not be charging 20$ for this I'll just wait for the winter steam sale In all fairness to those games, there is a bit more animation and production value in total war, which costs a lot and takes a lot of time. But I get what you are saying. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22406 Posts
(And all the DLC for Rome 2 costs almost twice as much as the full game and its almost the same price to buy Rome 2 and all previous Total war games on steam as it is to buy just the DLC for Rome 2, the entire dlc business model is just pure money grabbing) | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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ref4
2933 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On July 16 2016 04:37 LaNague wrote: you either ignore it or wait for a sale because the price isnt going to go down since lots of people happily buy the DLC at that price. or wait for the GOTY edition (what I'm doing). The price thing is esp true for warhammer fans... aren't those figurines like $100 a piece? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22406 Posts
On July 16 2016 04:47 trifecta wrote: or wait for the GOTY edition (what I'm doing). The price thing is esp true for warhammer fans... aren't those figurines like $100 a piece? Which is why GW has lost market share year after year, axed the entire Fantasy franchise shortly before a huge potential sales boost (^the game up in the title) only to release a new game that sold even less. But the utterly failure of GW is better saved for a different thread. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On July 16 2016 04:44 ref4 wrote: it costs that much because there are people willing to pay for it, plain and simple Are they though? I'm perfectly happy to just sit back and wait for some flippin' Beastmen. If CA had done this with Skaven or Lizardmen maybe, but not for Beastmen. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 16 2016 04:47 trifecta wrote: or wait for the GOTY edition (what I'm doing). The price thing is esp true for warhammer fans... aren't those figurines like $100 a piece? One army will cost you like $300 for a full set with some options. Unpainted. Unassembled. Without the book and you need to drive someplace with a table. Two armies could buy you a bitching PC. | ||
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