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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On October 14 2015 14:22 jtype wrote: Ah dammit! One last 20hr cooldown till I get ranked. Can't wait to see where I get placed and to start grinding out some wins. Ranks are as follows: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aok4BFp.jpg?1) cool thanks. | ||
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Pakistan10726 Posts
You can check this thread to see who on TL plays and what ranks they are so you can add people with similar ranks and get some people to play with. http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/cs-go/475722-the-players-club I would put your details in there aswell once you get ranks. Just follow the instructions on the first post. | ||
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
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jtype
England2167 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
What else is there to watch of regular content? Is ESL the equivalent of WCS or what? Glad to see that there are a lot of Danish players out there  Also: Why do T NEVER go A on Cobblestone. I've watched 4 or 5 games on that map, and they always go B. Either rush or jump a bit around inside the house and then go B... | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
ESL ESEA is just the league with the most money on the line atm. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On October 14 2015 14:52 Mozdk wrote: I've been watching a lot of pro games on ESL's youtube channel. ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2 it's called. What else is there to watch of regular content? Is ESL the equivalent of WCS or what? Glad to see that there are a lot of Danish players out there Also: Why do T NEVER go A on Cobblestone. I've watched 4 or 5 games on that map, and they always go B. Either rush or jump a bit around inside the house and then go B... At the moment, Cobblestone's B site favours T very heavily. T's will make it to the broken wall faster than the CT's can jump up to there to defend. This forces CT's to defend from the site (chicken coop/fountain statue, which is kind of vulnerable because of the "drop down/drop zone" area that T's also have some what of a high ground advantage + limited CT defending spots. T's take control of that, they can pincer into the B site and cut off rotations very easily. Meanwhile, on A site, T's have to go through a narrow tunnel at Long A, or a narrow door at mid (twice) and then walk up a ramp into multiple crossfire angles. : | On October 14 2015 14:35 porkRaven wrote: Nagi told me in private he wanted to meet me irl and date me. lol keep dreaming. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
If you're playing for picks it's certainly better to spread out on the map, but executes into the B site are easier relative to executing onto A. Still, I much prefer trading on Cobble T side. The map is so big and it's actually quite easy to force advantageous engagements. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On October 14 2015 15:12 Souma wrote: Mozdk: Watch nV on Cobble. They're pretty good at abusing people all across the map on T side. If you're playing for picks it's certainly better to spread out on the map, but executes into the B site are easier relative to executing onto A. Still, I much prefer trading on Cobble T side. The map is so big and it's actually quite easy to force advantageous engagements. Do teams go for picks on rounds where they have economy to buy everything they want? It seems strange to accept that you wont get a plant, if you do not get trade evenly or positively during the first few engagements. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On October 14 2015 15:42 Mozdk wrote: Do teams go for picks on rounds where they have economy to buy everything they want? It seems strange to accept that you wont get a plant, if you do not get trade evenly or positively during the first few engagements. Going for picks is just one of many strategies. Usually you'llsee Ts going for situations where if they dont win an exchange, someone else is there to immediately pick up the trade kill, as 1 for 1 is generally seen as favorable by the Ts. But in buy rounds you'll, barring a gamble, want to take it slower than normally. Rushing into a site and getting cleared out by a couple of nades, some flashes, and 2 people is absolutely worst case scenario. But on the flipside, going too slow gives your opponents time to react and rotate, so being too spread out isn't necessarily too good either as you wont be able to capitalise as well on a kill. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On October 14 2015 18:08 Excludos wrote: Going for picks is just one of many strategies. Usually you'llsee Ts going for situations where if they dont win an exchange, someone else is there to immediately pick up the trade kill, as 1 for 1 is generally seen as favorable by the Ts. But in buy rounds you'll, barring a gamble, want to take it slower than normally. Rushing into a site and getting cleared out by a couple of nades, some flashes, and 2 people is absolutely worst case scenario. But on the flipside, going too slow gives your opponents time to react and rotate, so being too spread out isn't necessarily too good either as you wont be able to capitalise as well on a kill. Depends how you play it out. Ok, pro reference, but still, if you watch pronax and fnatic, you'll see they're still extremely careful after a pick off and will still let players be spread out to gather infos and play it slowly before actually gather and go for a site. The thing is, if you're slow but don't give any info, you'll basically force the CT either to be spread super thin, or to take a gamble and play stack/retake, which can, with proper info gathering, get you a super easy entry on a site. So depends how you want to play that kind of situation. | ||
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Sianos
580 Posts
On October 14 2015 19:08 Ragnarork wrote: Depends how you play it out. Ok, pro reference, but still, if you watch pronax and fnatic, you'll see they're still extremely careful after a pick off and will still let players be spread out to gather infos and play it slowly before actually gather and go for a site. The thing is, if you're slow but don't give any info, you'll basically force the CT either to be spread super thin, or to take a gamble and play stack/retake, which can, with proper info gathering, get you a super easy entry on a site. So depends how you want to play that kind of situation. It's also about "denying" information. Usually after Ts get an entry frag, you'll see one CT player rotates instantly just in case, the Ts are executing on that site. Even when you are at a disadvantage in a 4v5 situation, if you know the site, which get's attacked, you still have a good chance of winning the round due to defenders advantage. If you play it slow, you "deny" the CTs this information, which forces them to either gamble stack a side/ play retake like you mentioned or play agressive and gather information about the Ts whereabouts. If Ts are spread out after an entry and wait, chances are good that you will have 1 CT, who is trying to gather information, which you can kill easily most of the time, which makes it even harder for the CTs to win the round. However if Ts are stacked and play it slow after an entry and a CT plays agressive for information on the other site of the map, you'll not notice this and suddenly you will run into a stacked side and also have one CT coming from behind. How you should play heavily depends on the map, your teams strengths and the difference in skill between your team and your opponents. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On October 14 2015 14:57 corumjhaelen wrote: I think I'll try to play competitive, despite I being horrible at fps, low reflex, low mouse accuracy etc playing with bot is going to get old as they have very few strategies and I can game those quite easily... Playing with bad people with no mic cant be that bad^^ silver I or II here I come To be fair I'm pretty sure you'll end up higher than you think. Personally I've always viewed myself as a terrible FPS player. Although I seem to generally do a little better on source engine games. I fully expected to be placed like...Silver 2 when I started. As far as this Cobble discussion goes...frankly whenever I roll into Cobble I literally don't know how to play the map. Either side. It feels incredibly awkward. In general CT side I end up trying to hold somewhere on B but a couple of times I've had to defend drop and it feels terrible to hold. T side executes always seem to be all over the place too. I dunno if this is just because the map so rarely comes up for me or whether its because the map doesn't just 'click' for me. | ||
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Pakistan10726 Posts
On October 14 2015 22:17 -Celestial- wrote: To be fair I'm pretty sure you'll end up higher than you think. Personally I've always viewed myself as a terrible FPS player. Although I seem to generally do a little better on source engine games. I fully expected to be placed like...Silver 2 when I started. As far as this Cobble discussion goes...frankly whenever I roll into Cobble I literally don't know how to play the map. Either side. It feels incredibly awkward. In general CT side I end up trying to hold somewhere on B but a couple of times I've had to defend drop and it feels terrible to hold. T side executes always seem to be all over the place too. I dunno if this is just because the map so rarely comes up for me or whether its because the map doesn't just 'click' for me. Cbble B is really easy to work with a smoke and a couple of flash because if you practice it enough and you watch how guys like Shox Olaf and Happy break it. Since you can get position on broken wall you can strongly limit the amount of angles you have to peak. Coop and fountain (or right under plat) are the more favorite spots at lower levels so you if you practiced those angles you can get an entry regularly. At the pro level the smokes can pretty much cut the site in half and the dynamic is massively changed with the drop that didnt exist in 1.6. That makes the site literally twice as vulnerable. 1.6 cbble you could literally only walk in through one door to B. It was suicide and playing T on the map was an absolute nightmare. A was more wayyyy more popular then. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
Really digging this game :D | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
All my games the T side has been doing better. Is this just because we suck, and defending is easier, when you are good at communicating? Are all maps CT favoured? | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Cobblestone is T sided. Mirage/Cache pretty balanced. Inferno's the most CT-sided map in the pool atm, but not as CT sided as many people like to believe. Overpass is CT sided. Train I have no clue. I still feel like people have yet to really understand the map. | ||
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