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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 13:18:08
October 15 2015 13:17 GMT
#721
On October 15 2015 17:54 Laserist wrote:
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On October 15 2015 17:50 Latringuden wrote:
On October 15 2015 17:09 jtype wrote:
So you reckon just top it up whenever you have the money?


nah, only when your armor is below like 20. Tbh I don't know if I've ever had my armor depleted to 0. I think it's pretty safe to say that you never should rebuy armor if you have already bought armor + helmet.


there was a calculation where armor should be replenished under 40ish something but you need to stay alive like 5-6 rounds to achieve that number.

http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Kevlar_+_Helmet#Rebuying_Armor
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1dzj8h/when_should_i_rebuy_a_kevlarhelmet/c9vewtr
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
October 15 2015 13:36 GMT
#722
Oh sweet, that clears it up very nicely! Thanks.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 15 2015 14:26 GMT
#723
On October 15 2015 17:54 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 17:50 Latringuden wrote:
On October 15 2015 17:09 jtype wrote:
So you reckon just top it up whenever you have the money?


nah, only when your armor is below like 20. Tbh I don't know if I've ever had my armor depleted to 0. I think it's pretty safe to say that you never should rebuy armor if you have already bought armor + helmet.


there was a calculation where armor should be replenished under 40ish something but you need to stay alive like 5-6 rounds to achieve that number.


well if your an entry player that survives 3 rounds you can normal take enough of a beating. I let it go down to like 17 once. Just to see what happens but it was a pretty fail experiment because nothing really did or I didnt notice anything.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
October 15 2015 14:46 GMT
#724
On October 15 2015 23:26 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 17:54 Laserist wrote:
On October 15 2015 17:50 Latringuden wrote:
On October 15 2015 17:09 jtype wrote:
So you reckon just top it up whenever you have the money?


nah, only when your armor is below like 20. Tbh I don't know if I've ever had my armor depleted to 0. I think it's pretty safe to say that you never should rebuy armor if you have already bought armor + helmet.


there was a calculation where armor should be replenished under 40ish something but you need to stay alive like 5-6 rounds to achieve that number.


well if your an entry player that survives 3 rounds you can normal take enough of a beating. I let it go down to like 17 once. Just to see what happens but it was a pretty fail experiment because nothing really did or I didnt notice anything.


Nothing happens until your armor reaches 0
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 15 2015 15:43 GMT
#725
All that money I've wasted refilling armor when it dropped like at 80...
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Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
October 15 2015 18:57 GMT
#726
This is a pretty good explanation of how you should buy armor.

http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Kevlar_+_Helmet#Rebuying_Armor

If they just full saved and you got knocked down to like ~30 armor and they are gonna buy full ak's and awps, then you don't even need to rebuy. Before I just used the general <50 rule and rebought anything below that, but now maybe its something to consider more carefully, $650 is a lot of money to be spending for no reason.
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 22:59:10
October 15 2015 22:55 GMT
#727
Playing with MGE, DMG and LE now. Getting absolutely rekt.

If my team wins but I do poorly, does it take that into account when placing me?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
October 15 2015 23:13 GMT
#728
On October 16 2015 07:55 Mozdk wrote:
Playing with MGE, DMG and LE now. Getting absolutely rekt.

If my team wins but I do poorly, does it take that into account when placing me?


Most likely theory is that MVP grants more mmr. So if you do poorly but still win, you wont be losing any mmr, but you wont be gaining as much as if you had been playing well. Like I mentioned earlier, Valve will never release or confirm how their ladder system works in fear of people gaming the system, but they have hinted to the correctness of it.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 16 2015 03:20 GMT
#729
On October 16 2015 00:43 Ragnarork wrote:
All that money I've wasted refilling armor when it dropped like at 80...


I don't want to even think about it. I rarely let it get below like 70 because I vaguely recalled reading somewhere that it drops in efficiency. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 16 2015 09:11 GMT
#730
Two game mechanic questions:

If I plant the bomb after a game is won, will we still get extra dollars?

When a bomb carrier is killed, CT can see the bomb on the minimap. Can they also see it if it just gets dropped by a player? I ask because I assumed this, but I see pros leave the bomb at times, so whoever rotates, can pick it up. Especially when they know CT will eco.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 09:17:22
October 16 2015 09:16 GMT
#731
On October 16 2015 18:11 Mozdk wrote:
Two game mechanic questions:

If I plant the bomb after a game is won, will we still get extra dollars?

When a bomb carrier is killed, CT can see the bomb on the minimap. Can they also see it if it just gets dropped by a player? I ask because I assumed this, but I see pros leave the bomb at times, so whoever rotates, can pick it up. Especially when they know CT will eco.

1. Only the planter gets $300.
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This is a bit outdated, but it only affects team kill. Team kill is -$300, not -$3300 any more. Everything else still applies.


2. CT can see the bomb if they see the carrier. Doesn't have to be dropped. Pro's leave the bomb in safe spots because if they go in for picks, they don't want to die, and leave the bomb in a difficult to recover position, essentially throwing away the round because CTs will see the bomb, and rotate everyone to it to defend it.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany805 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 09:21:34
October 16 2015 09:20 GMT
#732
You get 300$ the rest of the team gets nothing extra.

CTs see the bomb on the minimap when one of them has free line of sight towards the bomb. Everything else doesnt matter.


edit: I'm halfway sure its possible to kill a bombcarrier without seeing the bomb, for example if you see the head but not the body.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
October 16 2015 09:20 GMT
#733
On October 16 2015 18:11 Mozdk wrote:
Two game mechanic questions:

If I plant the bomb after a game is won, will we still get extra dollars?

When a bomb carrier is killed, CT can see the bomb on the minimap. Can they also see it if it just gets dropped by a player? I ask because I assumed this, but I see pros leave the bomb at times, so whoever rotates, can pick it up. Especially when they know CT will eco.


No, you personally get 300 ekstra dollars, but your teammates share none of it.

If a CT has direct view of the bomb, it will show up on his team's minimap, whether its dropped purposely, someone died, or the T is still carrying it.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 16 2015 10:03 GMT
#734
Okay. That cleared up everything
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 16 2015 13:04 GMT
#735
Pros leave bomb also for not giving away the bomb information since the other team couldn't rotate before seeing the bomb.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 16 2015 15:29 GMT
#736
On October 16 2015 18:20 Yrr wrote:

edit: I'm halfway sure its possible to kill a bombcarrier without seeing the bomb, for example if you see the head but not the body.


That'd be an interesting thing to test, I've never thought of that, I always just assumed that seeing the bombcarrier = bomb showing up on map.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany805 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 15:33:40
October 16 2015 15:33 GMT
#737
On October 17 2015 00:29 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 18:20 Yrr wrote:

edit: I'm halfway sure its possible to kill a bombcarrier without seeing the bomb, for example if you see the head but not the body.


That'd be an interesting thing to test, I've never thought of that, I always just assumed that seeing the bombcarrier = bomb showing up on map.

I had situations where the bomb carrier was shot but noone noticed he had the bomb. But it is possible we just missed that.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
October 16 2015 19:30 GMT
#738
On October 17 2015 00:33 Yrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 00:29 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 16 2015 18:20 Yrr wrote:

edit: I'm halfway sure its possible to kill a bombcarrier without seeing the bomb, for example if you see the head but not the body.


That'd be an interesting thing to test, I've never thought of that, I always just assumed that seeing the bombcarrier = bomb showing up on map.

I had situations where the bomb carrier was shot but noone noticed he had the bomb. But it is possible we just missed that.


Yeah, it's not like you have time to watch the minimap as you're busy holding off the enemies. I have no idea if this is possible, but presume it isn't due to the bomb replacing the dot of the player holding it, instead of just being on top of it. Would be neat to test out tho.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 17 2015 03:39 GMT
#739
I still have one win before I am ranked, but I've definately found my level around MG1, plus the rank above and below. That is where I belong atm.

I'll hopefully improve over time.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
October 17 2015 05:51 GMT
#740
on average how long do ranked games (I know there's probably not a clean average but like how many games can you get through in say 3-4 hours) take and does it vary that much depending on rank?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
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