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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On February 26 2015 14:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Grey Box and Grey Goo make for an interesting case study providing a counter example to Blizzard's philosophy of only realeasing a game when it is ready. it looks more and more like Grey Goo was released because the publisher/developer simply ran out of cash. It is not that much of a secret. No company other than Blizzard can afford several years of development. Barring PG's size, I would say they did a tremendous job in this game with some expected flaws and they said they are fixing the issues. Cut scenes are really high quality, soundtrack is one of the best you can find in the gaming industry, relatively good balance at launch WITHOUT a Beta period, a complete single player, a highly active and vocal developer base, I'd say they did very good. It is not AAAAAA++ quality at launch but I can live with that. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On February 26 2015 20:04 ahswtini wrote: and now, blizzard are doing the whole alpha & beta access thing with hearthstone and heroes Why not? Apparently gamers like paying for unfinished and buggy products, so you might as well exploit that. Of course they will complain and throw fits on the internet, but they will still happily continue buying them. Honestly though, I am glad I still lived through the days in which developers actually sold finished products (because patching via the internet was not an option back then) and gave out free demo version for people to try before they buy. Nowadays you have to shell out €60 and pray the game doesn't suck. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On February 26 2015 20:37 maartendq wrote: Why not? Apparently gamers like paying for unfinished and buggy products, so you might as well exploit that. Of course they will complain and throw fits on the internet, but they will still happily continue buying them. Honestly though, I am glad I still lived through the days in which developers actually sold finished products (because patching via the internet was not an option back then) and gave out free demo version for people to try before they buy. Nowadays you have to shell out €60 and pray the game doesn't suck. No you don't. Now you can download a free version as well to use it as a demo. It is then on you to buy the game after you tried it. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On February 26 2015 22:46 -Archangel- wrote: No you don't. Now you can download a free version as well to use it as a demo. It is then on you to buy the game after you tried it. Link to Grey Goo demo? | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
I don't think TL like us to leave links to those sites  | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
"use it as a demo" | ||
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Simberto
Germany12038 Posts
Which is why i don't pirate things anymore, and i simply don't buy stuff while it is unfinished/at launch. Instead i wait for a few months and either buy the finished product at half price or don't buy it if there is a consensus that it sucks donkey balls. | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
On February 27 2015 01:21 Simberto wrote: Which is something noone ever does. In my own experience, when i pirate something, i am not going to buy it afterwards. After all, i already have it, and was it really that great? Well i don't know, after i finished the campaign twice there was a tiny thing that was kind of annoying. Good thing i didn't give them any money! Which is why i don't pirate things anymore, and i simply don't buy stuff while it is unfinished/at launch. Instead i wait for a few months and either buy the finished product at half price or don't buy it if there is a consensus that it sucks donkey balls. I would say I buy ~30 % of the stuff I pirate. I only buy like 2% of the DLC that gets included in the pirate bundle though. Almost none of that is worth the money if you know what it does. With some notable exceptions where the DLC are expansions and not a single weapon or new map. I like the ideas and the game is somewhat fun to watch, just don't enjoy playing it is how I think of this specific game. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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HewTheTitan
Canada331 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10888 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
https://www.greybox.com/greygoo/en/forum/topic/2100/?page=1#post-19411 Over the past month we’ve been gathering feedback and monitoring Grey Goo’s balance very closely. We’re very pleased to announce that after next week’s performance patch goes live, our focus will completely shift towards gameplay and balance. With that said, these changes are absolutely built around your feedback, so we feel it’s only fair that we keep you informed on the direction the game will be taking. We want to better inform you exactly what we are changing, why, and how the tweaks are going to roll out in upcoming game updates. Next week, we're going discuss these balance tweaks in three separate posts: 1 - Bases and Defense 2 - Early Game Combat 3 - Mid to Late Game Combat As a sneak peek, here are some of the high priority issues we’ll be discussing. This list is not all inclusive: Walls Artillery and Destructor Damage Goo Offensive Capabilities Human Teleporters More If you have any questions on this announcement, or if there is anything you’d love for us to discuss as part of these posts, please let us know! We look forward to hearing from you! | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17948 Posts
On February 27 2015 01:21 Simberto wrote: Which is something noone ever does. In my own experience, when i pirate something, i am not going to buy it afterwards. After all, i already have it, and was it really that great? Well i don't know, after i finished the campaign twice there was a tiny thing that was kind of annoying. Good thing i didn't give them any money! Which is why i don't pirate things anymore, and i simply don't buy stuff while it is unfinished/at launch. Instead i wait for a few months and either buy the finished product at half price or don't buy it if there is a consensus that it sucks donkey balls. good policy. outside of Blizzard products i wait at least 3 months before buying anything. i think there is a minimum fee you must pay Steam to keep ur game on their service. thus, i wonder if they will even have this game on Steam in a few months. On February 26 2015 20:09 Laserist wrote: Cut scenes are really high quality, soundtrack is one of the best you can find in the gaming industry, relatively good balance at launch WITHOUT a Beta period, a complete single player, a highly active and vocal developer base, ya, the problem is they promised a beta. watching the user base dwindle to almost nothing i'd say the game is a commercial failure. i play RTS games for the match making and team games. from this perspective Grey Goo is a failure. they promised Geoff "incontrol" Robinson a really cool competitive experience.. the video is earlier in this thread. lots of promises and mediocre execution. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
They made an interesting game with strong fundamentals. Now they just have to fix and sell it. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10888 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Destructors are strong, but artillery works well against them. This is a tough balance to strike because I want artillery to be strong, but also not gamebreaking. The destructor rush is a hard counter to greed and a soft counter to safe builds, and I think that's what needs to go. Goo early game is pretty tough. I like teleporters as they are. It reminds me of arbiters teleporting 1/3 of your entire army, in a good way. I think that a few more units (possibly in an expansion) would be needed to make this an especially healthy game mechanic, but it still has a charm to it that I think does not need nerfing. Overall, what I think the game lacks is harass, the ability to snipe buildings, and interesting micro mechanics. These are the kinds of things that really should be promoted by patches. | ||
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HewTheTitan
Canada331 Posts
Other rts have comparable numbers. Maybe it isn't a flop. We can see on all those charts that something made players spike at various times from sub-500 launch. http://steamcharts.com/app/15620 http://steamcharts.com/app/17480 | ||
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